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Would the discovery of the remains of Jesus be of detriment to Christianity?
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wigg1es
Mar 04, 2007
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Yes, the discovery of Jesus' remains is bad for Christianity.


gogopoet
Mar 04, 2007
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Modern Christianity would certainly be undermined by the discovery of Jesus's physical remains. The dude supposedly got up and walked out of the tomb then ascended into the clouds leaving no remains on earth. That has been the accepted doctrine since the Council of Nicea around 300 ad. On the other hand, such a discovery would not effect the teachings of Jesus one bit.

 
nbcrusader
Mar 05, 2007
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The crux of Christian faith is the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. If the resurrection did not happen, then Christianity becomes just any other belief system.


 
devil
Mar 07, 2007
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The question is if it is detrimental. It will defininetly be used to dissuade people and it will very likely affect at least one person, and is definetly detrimental.

Hate to argue semantics, but still...

Furthermore, evolution is merely a theory, radiometric dating and the other stuff is similar.

I am assuming that the remains are proved to be Jesus' remains. If the bones of Jesus are actually verified, undoubtedly, then it will have at least some impact on Christians and potential Christians.

I would say that evolution, radiometric dating, and all the other things have played a part in drawing people away from the Christian faith, wouldn't you?

 
gogopoet
Mar 07, 2007
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I think you're stretching on that one. There are the die hards of course, but most of the more liberal Christians would give up the faith pretty quick I think. And the die hards will die off. They'ld have as much trouble selling the supernatural Jesus concept as flat-earthers have selling their version of reality. Keep in mind that the flat-earth idea was, until recently, a concept of Christianity.

 
jpdeuce
Mar 08, 2007
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"Christianity has always ignored evidence that goes against the bible"

That is quite a bold statement considering the Bible is the most historically accurate book we have and that not a single archaeoligical find has contradicted facts about cities, people groups, landmarks, etc... described in the Bible. Truth is the Bible has been used to locate many of these findings.

Now, I will give you that just because it is historically accurate about some facts does not mean that the spiritual implications are all true...but you can not deny that the Bible is an accurate history book at the very least.

Secondly, about these facts you say are ignored by Christians...kind of depends on your point of view doesn't it? Not that we need to hash out Evolution here but you can't just say something like 'Christians don't believe in Evolution' and get away with it. First of all Evolution has many parts. I would agree with you if you said 'Christians do not believe in the kind of evolution that creates life from non-life'. But I would disagree with you that 'Christians do not believe in evolution that explains new species, adaptation, etc...'.

Additionally, about facts that Christians 'ignore'...speaking of any kind of 'dating': It is perfectly within my scope of who I think God is for Him to have the ability to create things with 'age'. For instance, the Bible says He created Adam and Eve. Well, the bible is silent on the matter but I don't think He created them as infants that were dependant on another for life. I think He created them both with 'age'. Similarly, I believe God could have created the Earth and Universe with "age".

Anyway, I will stop here. I hope you read my tone as intellectual and not attacking as attacking has no purpose here as it really doesn't further the debate.

 
jpdeuce
Mar 08, 2007
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faith - Pronunciation [feyth] – noun
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing
2. belief that is not based on proof

Faith is not belief in something reason and logic says is false. It's belief in something you can't prove or put your hands on at the time. Doesn't mean you know it to be false.

 
openurmind
Apr 15, 2008
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In the bible it says that Jesus ascending "bodily" into heaven. That is his corpse went to heaven along with his soul.

So to find Jesus' body on Earth is a religious contradiction to the Bible not one based in science which the Church has shown not to put too much stock in.

 
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No, the remains of Jesus do nothing to change the basis of Christian faith.


tggdan3
Mar 05, 2007
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Christianity has always ignored evidence that goes against the bible. Evolution, radiometric dating, light particles in space from stars millions of light years away...

This would be one more piece of evidence they would simply deny. True or not.

 
cancerfish
Mar 05, 2007
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While the basis of Christianity will become false, a lie, people will still believe in it all, or the rest. They've still had faith after every other contradiction, after every other rebuttal to the bible, so I don't see this one stopping them. Its not called 'blind faith' for nothing.

 
jonjax71
Mar 07, 2007
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Faith is believing in something intelligence, reason and logic tell you can't be true. So if they can prove the remains recently found are those of Jesus of Nazareth, it might just enhance their faith as it would "prove" even more that he has risen from the dead. After all there is no hard historical fact that Jesus of Nazareth existed at all....

Jon Jax 71

 
ziegheil
Jul 10, 2007
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Sorry, but I must agree with tggdan3.

The bible has been constructed in such a manner that ANYTHING can be reasoned away as God's will. The bible says, ask in my name and ye shall receive, and when we don't receive, it's god's will.

When a child dies, when someone is raped, when a natural disaster happens, it's all God's will. And when God cannot be blamed for it, then there's always satan who causes all the sin in the world.

Therefore, the logic of the bible can always be rewritten REGARDLESS of what happens on this earth.

 
fraseyboy
Apr 14, 2008
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If the remains were found, they would say that god had put them there to test peoples faith in him... Or something like that.

 
jonjax71
Apr 16, 2008
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The bible also says, I'll provide the verse # if you need, if you believe, you can eat any deadly thing and survive, I have some hemlock tea are you willing to consume it?

 


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