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FAITH vs. SKEPTICISM
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cartesiandiver995
Feb 03, 2012
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debatesaregreat
Feb 05, 2012
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So are you saying that anyone with faith is stupid? That is about the worst fallacy I have ever heard of, and frankly it is quite offensive! In addition to that, it is "enough" not "nuff". There has to be a grey in this matter really. The problem is that neither faith nor religion can accurately portray everything. You can search and search your whole life and not find as much as I find through God, however I might miss aspects that you have found. You see this is not a black or white decision, it takes a proper balance to which man might never achieve.

 
debatesaregreat
Feb 06, 2012
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Why is it that if a faithful person does not sway their views after hearing an atheistic view, it is viewed as ignorance, but when a faithful person conveys to an atheist his beliefs and the atheist stays and atheist, it is seen as an intelligent decision? My father has not an ounce of faith in him and will sit there ranting about his views, through it all I sit and take from it what I can and I end up with a little more understanding of an atheistic mind. However if I appeal to him all the good God has done me, it is a very short-winded conversation. For a faithful person to be open to your reasoning, you should be open to ours as well.

 
jonjax71
Feb 07, 2012
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This is a bit of rambling filled with mispellings and poor syntax, but I catch your drift and you make some valid points.

 
debatesaregreat
Feb 07, 2012
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I was not literally asking the question, I was using rhetorics to prove that it is unjust for an atheist to justify claiming faithful beliefs are irrational and then turn around and expect a faithful person to be less skeptical of their views. In a way theoretical physics which many base their opinions on (some of mine come from this field) are just as impractical to a person with faith as faith is to an atheist.

 
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theblackkatana
Feb 04, 2012
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“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
― Charles Bukowski

nuff said.

 
Mark
Feb 08, 2012
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There seems to be a considerable degree of confusion over the exact premise of this debate. The title clearly beckons arguments associated with a faith based approach against a skeptical approach, not a specific topic which these can be applied to (Atheism vs Theism).

Skepticism is the default scientific perspective. In order to obtain truth or knowledge all the variables must be considered, all facets of the sought truth MUST be noted. I really see no argument against skepticism, faith allows for fallacious assumptions which often turn out to be false and misleading. Faith also invokes false hope: Since nothing is ultimately certain, faith can give hope where there is none. Upon such an event, faith will hurt more than it could ever heal.

I really fail to see any argument against skepticism. If truth is what you seek, then skepticism is the essential tool for reason.


 
jonjax71
Feb 06, 2012
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Intelligent people are smart enough to know that there is a grey or maybe, they tend to be more open to new ideas and the evolving of ideas and answers they already know, while those who are more faith based tend to be more rigid and less open to change, not matter what is shown or proven to them.

 
denverdannydee
Feb 07, 2012
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atehiests are not all the same, peeple who believe in a god are not all the same, even within the same relgion they are not the same. An athiest basis his beliefs on science and the facts so when a relgious persons shares his views it is more difficult for the athiest to change their belief because the arguement was made on faith and not science or facts. Almost every single believer knows his belief is based on faith I am a very universal believer in God, that ultimately in the end there's is only one Almighty the Creator and it doesn't matter what relgion or faith you are, as slong as you are a beleiver, all relgions, all faiths, all scritpures and holy writings lead to the same God the Almighty. I used to be more of a fundamentalist but over the years I saw that it was way to narrow minded a view, almost like an offence to God because God is infinite and the creations of Goid offer a wide array of variety even among a sinlge species so why would belief of God have to be narrow It doesn' t make sense So, even thoe I am not an atheist, i understand where many of them are coming from

 
qixusoh
Feb 08, 2012
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Fiath vs Sketicism and Faith vs Atheists is a very different thing. In this case, it is obvious that the skeptics are right. A skeptic is someone who, as the name implies, is skeptical about religion. A skeptic, unlike an atheist, is open-minded and willing to change if proven that religion is right. However, there are many reasons to be skeptical. Most importantly, there is no concrete evidence behind religion, unlike science. For example, if God is real, how come no one can see/hear/touch etc him? Also, the origins of Religion is unclear. Let's say today, I proclaim my pet dog is a God and over millions of years of spreading somehow many people belive it. I have just started Religion. Of course, this is just an example. The reason why skeptics are right is because there is not real concrete evidence to believe in religion.

 
arafsarereal
Mar 08, 2012
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The reason those with faith are seen as ignorant should they not sway from their views whereas the atheist is seem as making an 'intelligent decision' for standing firm is that religious beliefs have very little convincing evidence on their side. It is much easier for many to put suffering down to natural causes than it is to consider it being the work of a god, as this would lead to the issue of why a god would cause suffering. Similarly, it is easier to say "the world was created by chance" than to believe it was created by an omnipotent being. This is because the latter explanation requires faith in something we have very little knowledge of, whereas chance is something that occurs in everyday life and so it is easier for us to believe it.
In short, atheism is easier to explain with what knowledge we have of the world around us than faith, which requires trust in things we do not understand.

However, I think you will find that many with faith will see an athiest not swaying in their views after hearing a religious view as being ignorant; it really works both ways. I agree with you that many of those who describe themselves as atheistic do listen to those with faith with ignorance, though regretfully this problem exists in the opposite way round also.

 


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