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Is it sexist to refer to a woman as 'girl' ?
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exocet
Sep 13, 2011
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skiingfool435
Sep 13, 2011
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Only if he's black. And then it's racist.

 
exocet
Sep 14, 2011
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If you called an adult of either gender: a child, it would be an insult. It is possible to call a man or a woman a boy or girl with the intention of insulting them in the same way, and that can be sexist, but is not always. It depends on the situation and intention of the person calling someone a boy or girl. If in a workplace a female superior refers to a man as boy to demean him, then yes that is sexism, just as it would also be to call a woman a girl in the same situation. Also, women are subject to patronisation based on their gender far more than men, and calling women girls does reinforce the negative stereotype of of women being somewhat infereior and infantile which doesn't exist to the same extent with men. Basically it's a far rarer occassion that a man will be subjugated based on his gender than a woman so to ask if calling a man a boy is sexist is not an apt comparison as men do not experience the same level of sexism that women do. It's more likely to be a sexist remark if its directed towards a woman, though not always the case.

 
teachme
Sep 15, 2011
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I have to agree with Exocet. I was just chatting with a friend about this the other day. He plays rugby and was referring to the female rugby team as the "girls' team." I was quite certain they weren't "girls," and immediately commented on how hard it seems for some men to call their female counterpart "women."

His response was that he naturally associates them as being the same age as his sons, and can't help but think of them as "girls." I replied, "How old are your sons?" He said, "In their twenties." I then asked if he still calls his sons "boys," and of course, he admitted that he didn't. I might add, that HIS rugby team is, of course, the "Men's Rugby" team. I wonder how he would feel if someone called his team the "Boy's Rugby" team...probably pissed.

Some women I have known have commented that it makes them feel younger, when they are called a "girl." I suppose they construe it as a compliment. ...I don't.

You can call it whatever you want. Personally, I think it's pretty sad. That some men and women are stuck in this fantasy that a woman's true worth is based solely on her youth, surface beauty, and apparent vulnerability. In some respects, I would say we are still in the dark ages...where men can age gracefully, with dignity and sophistication...and women just "get old."

I might just call it "delusional," and at times, in my opinion, it is most certainly "sexist." Discriminating. Condescending. Devaluing. Belittling. Disrespectful. Demeaning. Ignorant.

In the case of grown women calling themselves "girls," I consider it "self-deprecating," for sure. They can argue that I am taking myself way too seriously...to which I respond..."Be Proud!" and "Be Real!" :)

 
exocet
Sep 19, 2011
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Yeah, it can be.....

 
joryrferrell
Sep 24, 2011
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It would be if women were almost always referred to as women. I have never heard a man call another man "Boy"
in real life...only in movies. However the same cannot be said of men I have heard speaking about women....

 
joryrferrell
Sep 24, 2011
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Wouldn't the disparity in frequency of any given man calling women "girls" and yet calling other men "men" indicate a man believes in sexual inequality.....i.e. a sexist ideology? After all, he uses the form of address ("Men"/"Man") he feels most respectful in making other men feel grown and capable, but he uses the version that denotes immaturity for grown women("Girl")? That's just a rude person and not a sexist person? That's not the root of sexism? Lack of respect for maturity based on sex?

 
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rebirth
Sep 13, 2011
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is it sexist to refer to a man as a boy?



 
blackout
Sep 13, 2011
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There is a very thick line in between sexist and being rude. An adult woman being called "girl" is a bit rude but no where near the lines of being sexist. Also, the same thing applies for men; a man being called a boy is quite rude but can be tolerable.

 
phlyarologist
Sep 13, 2011
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Calling a woman girl implies that they aren't mature enough to be a woman, but is it sexist? Absolutely not.

 
bbones
Sep 14, 2011
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Not really sexist is the same thing as racism but it can go both ways it really is just excluding some based on their gender or expecting them to be something based on gender

 
exocet
Sep 19, 2011
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Im quite disapointed that so few women agree with me (1), or 'girls' as you seem to enjoy being called. If someone calls me boy, i find it offensive, it implies that i am weak and infantile.

 


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