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Do humans have free will?
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rebirth
Sep 11, 2011
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steve1990
Sep 12, 2011
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Rebuttal to: rebirth Show

I will concede that it cannot be proven that humans could have done otherwise, however, one could say "I could have done otherwise if I had chose to". If one takes a nihilistic approach as it appears you have, you have formed a view of what the world is, but you have also formed a view of what the world isn't. In other words:

You cannot argue that there is no free will because if there is free will you have used free will to reach such conclusions. Before gravity was proven, it still existed. Free will is unproven, which is not the same as dis proven. You cannot say it does not exist, because you cannot go back in time to prove there is "no choice" anymore than i can go back and prove there was.

However: .
I can break down your argument further. If there is no choice, there is no good or bad, because good or bad implies choice. Giving food to a homeless man is not a good deed, because I did not have a choice. If I held a gun to someones head and forced them to steal a candy bar it was not "bad" of them, because they had essentially no choice.
SO, I'm not proving free will exists, but I'm proving you cannot know it doesn't exist.




 
christwarrior
Sep 22, 2011
1 convinced
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If you can answer this question, You have free will.

 
education
Sep 14, 2011
0 convinced
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Yes humans have freewill. I say this because we make our choices in our lives, we have one simple choice yes I will do this and no I will not. Yes I believe in this or no I don not believe in this. People make their own decision on everything in their lives,

 
individualeleven
Oct 16, 2011
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Rebuttal to: aadham Show

That is a whole other debate, as one can say that we are above robots because of our ability to feel emotions and therefore make irrational and illogical decisions as well.

 
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rebirth
Sep 11, 2011
2 convinced
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Humans are a compilation of atoms which follow the physical laws of the universe. Humans, while they may be very complex beings, this complexity does not in any way escape universal laws.

While humans may be capable of thought, knowledge, preferences, pleasure, pain, there is not enough reason to believe they are capable of decision making, but only reacting to previous events.

The problem is that free will advocates cannot prove that humans are capable of making a choice. As time as we know it is linear, there is no way to prove that HUMANS COULD HAVE DONE OTHERWISE.

 
joshuah
Sep 13, 2011
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Rebuttal to: steve1990 Show

There is evidence that our decisions are made for us seconds before we actually make them. That our choices are already processed by our mind and registered before they're consciously articulated. On this basis, our most common understanding of free will simply does not exist. But does some form? It's uncertain.

 
xyze
Sep 15, 2011
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One thing we do know, is that we think we have free will. However, there is no reason to suggest that our minds are exempt from natural laws that apply to everything else. Our brains are not some magical, supernatural singularity. Just because we don't understand how it works 100% does not mean we should jump to the conclusion that it defies the laws of physics.

 
lyagami
Sep 22, 2011
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: christwarrior Show

If the being that controls the course of your life has you answer this question, you have free will.

 
aadham
Oct 15, 2011
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I would like to say that free will perhaps does not exist. Firstly I say "perhaps" because it is difficult to prove either way.

Imagine if you will, you have created a robot and programmed it to do various things. The robot cannot do ANYTHING that hasn't been programmed. The robot can store (in an infinite memory) events, situations and problems/solutions (etc); it can then recall and use the stored data to solve situations as they arise using an "IF-THEN-ELSE" (etc) logic.

Now tell me, does that robot have free will to decide whether to do something or not by using what it has learnt previously? Or does the robot not have free will because it merely carries out the code (in its entirety) as programmed by you, when deciding it should do something or not?

 
aadham
Oct 15, 2011
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Rebuttal to: education Show

As I have just posted that I don't believe we have free will, I have to say you are (perhaps) wrong. "Free" will should mean free of all influences and the decision made entirely in our mind; this (perhaps) is not so - our decisions are pre-programmed using an "IF-THEN-ELSE" logic so cannot be free.

 
jay520
Oct 22, 2011
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No, humans do not have free will. Contrary to popular belief, humans actually lack the ability to 'decide' their actions. Sure, humans appear to make their decisions, but one has to realise that every 'decision' we make is based upon our experience with the world, which is based upon external factors which we have no control over.
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/ One person's brain is composed of the same type of atoms as any other person. Barring any genetic mutations, which are uncontrollable anyway, humans are more or less born with the same state of mind. The difference in each individual is caused by the unique 'experience' that each individual goes through.
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/ We make decisions based on what we know. Our knowledge originates from external stimuli. Our brains are clouded by our contricting perspective of the world. We don't choose what we percieve. We just percieve what we come across. These perceptions are then combined with other perceptions & natural instincts and our brains uses those [external] factors to form what we call 'decisions'. Even if exteranal factors only affected 1% of our decision, that would still be enough to prove that our lives are significantly affected by stimuli.
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/ External Factors + Natural Genetics = Personality.
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/ We make no influences on our personality.

 


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