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The rioters in London are evil people who go through life seeking excuses to do harm.
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porternc
Aug 08, 2011
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exocet
Aug 13, 2011
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Im from Haringey in North London.This whole thing started off as retribution against the police shooting of a man, now its turned into anarchy with no aim or purpose anymore. People are using this situation as an excuse to steal and cause violence and dont care or know about the original reason for it starting. These are little thugs who have only succeded in causing damage to small businesses, stolen private property, injured and killed people. This has meant david cameron (the prime minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain if u dont know) has immediately increased police power, and are trying to restrict the use of social media, making us less free. a terrible, terrible result . . . This is more like the ring of gyges story rather than an uprising with a moral basis. Why are people in manchester rioting also ? you dont see any middle class adults doing this, its just poor, stupid children who want a big tv for free. . . i dont want these people influencing how the police can treat us all, its not fair.

 
drayguy
Aug 16, 2011
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Although I would not go so far as to say that the rioters are evil, I can see why one may think so. I noticed that nobody has mentioned the innocent people who have been robbed, merchants whos shops have been looted, and cars that have been destroyed. If these rioters are trying to make a statement, they need to find another way of doing so. What alot of people who are rioting probably do not understand is that they will be replacing these burned police cars and public busses they have destroyed with their own tax money. Destroyed shops that may reopen will no doubt have to charge higher prices to pay for the new security systems they will now have to put in place. I would have to agree that most of these people were merely being opportunistic, and that they probably do not break the law on a regular bases. I also believe that these same people probably do not know the man that was killed personally, and were using it as an excuse to commit criminal acts. A green light so to speak to commit crimes. I also think that it shows pure ignorance for a group of people to act out in violence without knowing a whole story. Do we honestly think that there would have been a riot against gangs if the policeman was killed instead of the gang member?

 
vancam
Aug 18, 2011
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

I don't think it is similar in anything but that fact it was a riot. The police have been accused of not enforcing the situation enough NOT the other way round as you suggest.

The real threat (as mentioned above) is the knee-jerk reaction to this which is about removing human rights and free speech rather than delving into the real issues that brought this situation about.

 
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jonjax71
Aug 09, 2011
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The police around the world are increasingly believing they are above the law instead of enforcing the law. I was part of a generation in the 1960s that "rioted" or as we preferred to say, had rebellions of civil disobedience for a worthwhile cause of equality that was long overdue. The police were partially to blame for the rebellions as well, the Watts Rebellion of 1965 began after a case of police brutaliy-similar to what has ocurred in London

 
pgandal
Aug 09, 2011
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To say that rioters are evil or merely opportunistic is incredibly ignorant. Do you honestly think that every one of the thousands are career criminals (in fact, to say that criminals are evil is ignorant as well, but that's another issue) who were just waiting for a chance to strike?

To write off the whole thing as a bunch of meaningless violence is to learn nothing at all.

http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2011/08/panic-on-streets-of-london.html

 
gatorsf80
Aug 15, 2011
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Clearly, the other-side knows nothing of mob mentality, and how regular people can act mischievously without prior evidence of criminality. To think London rioters are evil people is a clear ignorance. The opponent should watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave movie & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment also available in the movie, as well as other countless examples in history. Looting rioters are opportunistic, and because everyone around them doing it, it justifies their own action. Yet, it does not make them evil.

 
matt1989
Aug 21, 2011
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Maybe if the government hadn't of made it so beneficial to be a single parent and made it more difficult to have a family (money-wise), so the kids could actually have two parents and not grow up without half their morals from a mum or dad, they would know it's wrong to act that way.

Maybe if the government hadn't of f**ked up the schools and told kids that they can get great 6 figure jobs right out of school they wouldn't turn down low income jobs, and be pissed when they can't get the good one they were promised.

Maybe if people would hire unexperienced workers to give them experience instead of not, those kids would be working instead of breaking sh*t.

I think most people are overlooking the fact that it's not only the merchants and family businesses who are the victims.

 


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