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Creation museum
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hologram
Mar 18, 2011
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hologram
Mar 18, 2011
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Dinosaurs with saddles?

Noahs ark tree of life that shows dinosaurs where alive after "the great flood"

nothing scientific.

poisonous to children...it forces them to say and do things that are anti evolution like going next to a monkey and saying, i'm not related to this.

 
wolfhaines
Mar 19, 2011
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Please explain why people have the right to teach lies and brainwash children?
The right of a child to learn, explore and think for themselves is far more important than the 'ability' (not right) of a parent to brainwash them.
It is time we stopped this ridiculous 'head in the sand' view of religious doctrine. You do not have a right to kill someone, so you shouldn't get away with teaching people fabrications. Rights only stretch so far as they do not inflict negatives on another human, so destroying the mind and education of a child is not a right, but should be a crime.

 
wolfhaines
Mar 20, 2011
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Creationism isn't a theory, it is a story. No evidence for it, and in fact, millions of evidence against it. To allow it to be taught in schools is nonsense. Why not teach that white people are the superior race? There is no evidence for that, but what the hell, teach it out of respect for the nut cases that believe it anyway...

 
theenemyisprofit
Mar 23, 2011
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Genesis should not be taught alongside evolution because genesis has no basis in the scientific method. It belongs in a religion class at best, certainly not science class. And in fact, unlike genesis (or the flying spaghetti monster), there is proof for evolution. Let me explain (and I borrowed this from myself in another debate):

There is confusion as to the definition of theory, as captured in the statement that "it's just a theory." The scientific definition of theory is a well-supported body of interconnected statements that explains observations and can be used to make testable predictions. It describes a coherent framework that observable data fit into. Conversely, the colloquial definition of theory can mean an opinion, hypothesis, conjecture, or
speculation and does not have to be based on facts or make testable predictions.

A scientific theory is the result of countless iterations of the scientific method which is as follows: ask a question, do background research, construct a hypothesis, test with an experiment, analyze the results and draw a conclusion, and report results or construct a new hypothesis and repeat. Reported results are subject to peer review. This process is repeated by people elsewhere again and again until it potentially reaches the
status of scientific theory.

There is not a bright line dividing fact and theory. Rather, there is a sliding scale of probability. A fact is an idea that is so likely to be true that we do not doubt it and act as if it is true. Evolution is also a fact in the sense that it is so firmly supported by evidence that it is assumed to be true. Fact: fruit flies, which reproduce rapidly, have been observed changing from generation to generation, i.e. evolutionary change, in laboratories. So evolution is a fact in the same way that observations of gravity are facts. Like gravity, evolution is both fact and theory.

 
ryank121
Mar 23, 2011
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Its a f**king fairy tale they might as well create a museum for for every literary
fictional universe.

 
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hologram
Mar 18, 2011
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Of course they have the right to, thats not what this is about....Do you think it is teaches people facts, or just a load of sh*t?

 
liberalsteve
Mar 19, 2011
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Too bad that you are so short sighted on this matter. There is no proven theory whatsoever regarding the origins of man or life for that matter. I think people should be open for all theories regarding this. Only in that way we can hope to someday hope to find the answer to this very complex question.

 
hologram
Mar 19, 2011
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There is no evidence of Genesis at all! At least we have scientifically backed arguments, theories, and Ida, the fossil of the missing link...what do you have? a book that some people wrote and said is true?

Science wants to explain what is really going on, it doesn't have an atheist agenda, but a fact finding agenda. If science proved the existence of god, it wouldn't be hidden because it would still be science

 
liberalsteve
Mar 20, 2011
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For the record, I do not believe the bible's story of genesis. The only thing I'm saying is, as long as there is no proof for a story or theory, all stories and theories are just as credible as the other. It's great that the theory which you apparently believe in has a sort of theory to back it up, but it's only theory as long as there is no hard proof. Therefore, the story in the bible could just as well be true, but should also not be assumed to be true. My conclusion is that the biblical story and theory regarding the development of life can both be valuable assets in finding the truth behind the origins of life. None of the both should be discredited until proof is found.

 
liberalsteve
Mar 20, 2011
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I agree that genesis is a biblical story, but I disagree that there is proof to show it is wrong. It could very well be an explanation for the origins of life for all we know. Therefore, it should be taught in schools as a possible other explanation other than the Darwinian derived counterpart. Until proof is found that either one is wrong or they both are wrong, people should be taught about both points of view. Only if we are open to all possibilities, will we ever have a chance of finding the truth behind the origins of life.

 
cartesiandiver995
Jul 22, 2013
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Man how I miss the old default avatar... it made a large part of the people who had it look like the hunchbacks/fleamen they were.

 


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