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Republic or Democracy?
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theudas
Jan 23, 2011
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dkturner
Jan 26, 2011
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I'm with House on this one - people are idiots.

Seriously, though, I'm strongly against the principle of "majority rule" implicit in the idea of a democracy. Majority rule is simply a refined form of mob justice. I don't believe that might makes right, so why should I believe that majority makes right? The system opens itself up to cases of "I want X, minority group Y has X, therefore we should take X from Y".

 
skiingfool435
Jan 23, 2011
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True democracies become mob-like and place too many demands on individual citizens. Certainly, there are problems with the republic system, but at least the system can function.

 
dkturner
Jan 28, 2011
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How about rights-based (or what is sometimes inaccurately called constitutional) government? The theory is that certain ground rules are set for society, not imposing obligations, but rather defining the limits of acceptable behavior. This theory is quite well-developed - see the Wikipedia entry on negative rights, for example.

There is scope for national-level civic organisations (particularly courts and the military, but also to an extent policing and roads). However these should be treated as separate pillars of government, with no centralized executive authority (and therefore no scope for an ever-expanding oligarchy).

 
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skiingfool435
Jan 28, 2011
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I'm not arguing against you, clearly, but I'm curious what you would find preferable to majority rule?

 
Maven
Feb 25, 2011
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The Republic is based on the Aristotelian base that the regular citizen is unable to be a part in the government because of their ignorance; of course that was in 350 BC, the education and information was a privilege. Now, when more than the education is so advanced, that we are surrounded by news, that the media provides amounts of different points of view on each subject a regular citizen is capable enough to choose and ideology according to his needs.

 


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