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Scientific Accuracy of Noah's Ark
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truth4eva
Dec 19, 2010
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Its possible...Here’s why


truth4eva
Dec 19, 2010
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1) There are flood legends in nearly every culture! Date back to the oldest and its
the bibles.

2) Animals could fit because you would only have to bring two of every kind. Like
two
dogs rather than one of each variety

3) Fish would not have to go on the ark, they would be fine in the water

4) Birds, plants, and bugs would not either.

 
luby52
Dec 22, 2010
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There's scientific proof that the flood happened in ancient Mesopotamia. I watched the national geographic channel show on it. It wasn't a world wide flood, it was just in that specific area, but! it did happen.

 
luby52
Dec 24, 2010
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Rebuttal to: theudas Show

No the resolution is the scientific truth of Noah's Ark not the flood itself and yes there is proof there is one man who went on a boat during this time of flood.

 
russelluke
Jan 09, 2011
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Cos anythings possible? Jus kidding

Ofcourse its f**king possible that man made a big boat and stuffed a whole lot of animals in it just before a big flood. What the hell are you all debating about really. Make a new debate and put a proper title.

 
Margarito Guerrero
Sep 21, 2012
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This is all according to the bible:
1) In order to properly affirm some issues one must first take into mind that this was during a time within which God's spirit was within man and the land. Meaning that it all had properties not known to today. Ex: Adam and his descendants all living to be about 1,000 years See Gen 6
2)At that moment and time the land was filled with "giants." Gen 6:3
3)Noah had 100 years to build and plan the ark plus 500 years of life experience. Gen 5:30/7:6
4)Birds, insects, reptiles, mammals, and amphibians were aloud into the ark. Only fish were left out side.7:2-3
5)The plants were not affected. When Noah sent out a dove it came back with the leaf that it found and then one week later when Noah sent it out again it did not return. Gen 8:9-12
6)God sent a wind to blow the waters away Gen 8:1
7) The rain was literally from the heavens Gen 7:11

 
Margarito Guerrero
Sep 21, 2012
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This is as firm of a scientific view as I can see:
1) Mutations are not caused simply by inbreeding but rather by the genetic flaws present in either parent. Even health non-related parents run a risk of mutations. If these animals were filled with God's spirit and only a few generations of existence it's safe to bet that they didn't have genetic flaws or that they were not enough to be visible.
2) Fish are adaptable creatures that need little time to feel a home anywhere. As can be seen from all of the invasive species that a wreaking a havoc in multiple waters in the United States of America They would not have been in any danger when salt and fresh water mixed.
3) Trees and plants are communicative and adaptive when it comes to survival, as seen during droughts. I doubt that water would have bothered them much.
4) Whenever it comes to water we have plenty to spare. Some of it frozen in the North and South pole, and most of it quite simply in the atmosphere. Which the company Eole Water is trying to condense in desert regions.
5) Animals have been proven to have a special survival instinct which allows them to cooperate with one another. Like when mother animals accept animals of other species into their litters.

 
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theudas
Dec 19, 2010
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Rebuttal to: truth4eva Show

Responding to your points

1) Mesopotamian flood legend is older. Regardless maybe its because floods are common.

2) This would lead to a lot of issues with the gene pool of the animals. Lots of fun mutations

3) With the rapid change in temperature and mixing of salt and fresh water, sea-life would die.

4) Bugs would drown, plants would drown, birds can’t fly forever.

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More issues: Where did all the water go? How come we are not handicapped by all the inbreeding? When they got off the ark how did they get food? (Herbivores would have no plants, Carnivores would kill a species), You need to show its possible for not only the animals just to fit, but have room to be active. Some animals are tied to only specific climates and environments how did they survive? How did he have enough food to feed them all (Elephants consume huge amounts a day). and if you say they were all babies, how would they have gotten to the ark in the first place then, and how would they have their parents pass necessary knowledge down to them?

 
distort
Dec 30, 2010
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First, let me just say that you are technically right; the story of Noah's Ark is best interpreted as a story derived from the flood you are talking about. And while yes, there was certainly at least one man who thought to get on a boat during this flood, it is Noah's Ark we are discussing, not what it is most likely based on. And there are quite a number of problems with the Ark.

1). To house two of every land an air based species in a single boat, the boat would have to be huge, probably roughly the size of a small country. How could one man both obtain the material required to build this boat as well as construct it all on his own?

2). How could one man obtain two of every species on the planet? To obtain all of these animals, he would need to traverse the entire planet, and I would be very curious as to how he could do this.

3). How could Noah keep the animals from mating with and/or killing each other? Wild animals take much longer to train than domesticated animals, so keeping all of the animals from succumbing to their more, ahem, animalistic tendencies would be supremely difficult.

4). Assuming that Noah did not travel the entire planet and obtained the animals through some other means, how would he know where to distribute the animals once he had survived the flood? Certain animals can only survive in certain environments in the wild, so it's not as though he just distributed the animals wherever was most convenient. Additionally, how would he be able to travel the entire planet to distribute all of these animals on a single boat without any sort of crew?

These are just the problems with the boat itself; as the other commenters here have already pointed out, the flood is filled with problems as well. And I would like to point out that the flood is just as important to the story of Noah's Ark as the boat itself.

And lastly, anyone who feels they can explain any of this must realize that we are talking science here: supernatural explanations by definition are not scientific explanations, so they are not acceptable under the terms of this debate.

 
stof
Dec 20, 2010
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How about the ice age? Science proved that and yet we don’t see that mentioned in any religion, remarkably, all these religions came after the ice age and yet no religion talks about that, isn’t that funny?! And that wasn’t a small event to miss and yet they talk about a flood.
How about floods we have today, Tsunamis…?
How about the fact that floods are simply natural phenomena?
And finally how about never to say that science proves anything religion says, because the opposite is the truth.


 
theudas
Dec 22, 2010
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A flood in mesopotamia fine, but unless I am wrong, Truth is talking about a world wide one

 
jimdroberts
Jan 01, 2011
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It is ridiculous to say you would need only 2 of each animal given the fact that many animals eat other animals. Anyone who believes in the concept of the ark needs to look at a 2 graders science book and look up THE FOOD CHAIN.

 
theudas
Jan 09, 2011
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truth4eva created this debate, he’s arguing for what I assume is the scientific accuracy of a world wide flood as described in the bible. We’re pointing out the flaws and impossibilities with his statement. any other questions?

 
russelluke
Jan 09, 2011
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yes, what color are your panties.

 
russelluke
Jan 09, 2011
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Exactly where does mr truth speak about a world wide flood? Exactly what could be defined as the "world" way back then? Your taking a story and dismissing it as false based on knowledge that is relevant only "today". Why don't you stop "assuming" and make a rebuttal that actually makes sense.

 
truth4eva
Jan 10, 2011
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Rebuttal to: russelluke Show

Noah's Ark Was a world wide flood. Read the bible.

The Bible specifically teaches that the Flood of Noah's time was global in extent and that all air-breathing, land animals and all humans were killed, except those saved in the Ark. How could the Bible be any more clear concerning the global nature of the Flood?! Or, if this was actually a local flood, how could the Bible have been any more misleading about its extent?! Noah was in the ark for more than a year, not just 40 days (Genesis 8:14). 53 weeks is absurdly long to stay in the ark for a local flood since dry land would have been just over the horizon.

 
theudas
Jan 10, 2011
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Rebuttal to: russelluke Show

The assumption was somewhat justifiable based on “Truths” previous debates and posts. I am under the impression that he or she believes that the bible is a literal word of God, therefore when it says world It means world (or God is a crappy communicator. If we’re talking about a regional flood then of course things change. Though I would bring into question why on earth did Noah and his family stay in the ark for so long. And hey based on what truth just posted my assumptions were correct.

ergo my rebuttal made sense, If you’d like to have a debate on the validity of a regional flood go make a new debate.

 
russelluke
Jan 11, 2011
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You got me there.I admit defeat. Clap clap

 
allenf
Jan 17, 2011
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Well were did all the water come from and then were did it go. A flood that rose above mount everest ridiculous! Also a matter of fitting the animals on a boat getting rid of their scat and then all their specialized diets. so pure fantasy!

 


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