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Is America The Greatest Country In The World?
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jonemi
Feb 08, 2007
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Feb 09, 2007
7 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

Don't try to criticize a nation for its education system until you learn to spell "achievement."

The United States is obviously the world leader in innovation and science. The United States has been home to 270 Nobel Prize winners, almost three times as many as the next nation on the list, Great Britain with 101. American computer and pharmaceutical companies are pioneering new research. The American government spends millions funding science and research every year. The United States is the birthplace of general relativity, string theory, the vaccine, DNA, the computer, the cotton gin, the telephone, the lightbulb, atomic energy, ambitious unmanned space exploration, the television, stem cell research, and, most importantly, Viagra.

It would be quite difficult for a nation that makes up over a third of the world economy and has the largest and most powerful military to have no historic achievement - I suppose you think that America woke up one day and by some freak accident happened to be the world's economic, political, and military leader?

I also resent your insinuation that most Americans see war as a form of entertainment.

You should do a little research and get a better grip on reality before so boldly insulting Americans.

 
jonemi
Feb 08, 2007
4 convinced
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Conduct the "Gate Test".

Open the gate (figuratively) and see which way the people go. In or out.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 10, 2007
4 convinced
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First, "greatest" constitutes "best overall". You can think of this as a GPA where we may be great in one area but not in others, but that does not mean we don't have the best GPA or best overall.

First, we have the biggest army in the world. In terms of power, no one comes close. We can take your sorry ass country over in like a week. The war with terrorism is bad, but death that comes from not having it is worse. People love to complain and say that we were pre-emptive but we were not in a fight or war when 9/11 happened. So, that means that they started it, and we'll finish it.

Second, we have the highest GDP. As far as production goes, nobody beats us. Yeah in France you sell your cheese or paintings, but we make the most money. We are a 1st world country with one of the first consumer nations ever.

Third, we are not afraid of our ass. We are the hardest workers in the world. (see gdp) You guys love to slack off and explain about "culture" or that kind of crap but we take hardly any days off and day in day out we can outwork all of you.

Fourth, the gd UN sits in our backyard in NY. You poeple talk about thinking globally, well we fund almost the whole damn UN and house it to. Again, we put up results you talk about culture.

Fifth, we saved all your asses in WWII. Yeah, so Paris would not exist if it was not for us, and we are still waiting for our thank you cards.

Sixth, we destroy you at olympics when we try. Our NBAers don't even give a sh*t about it and will still place. If we bring Kobe, don't show up. Oh, and remember the dream team? I think they were pretty good... We take so many more medals than most of you countries and we don't care because we have our own leagues that are so good, your players come to play. Oh, soccer is boring...

As a personal note, we stole England's soccer player, Beckham, and bought out MU. - And we don't even like soccer.


 
nix
Feb 09, 2007
3 convinced
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Most people love their countries. I would certainly hope so, but to say we are better is tough because we haven't lived anywhere else.
For the American haters out there, I'd just like to say that
1) Not all of us like George Bush (most don't right now)
2) Not all of us watch Fox News (most don't)
3) Not all of us support the war (most don't right now)
4) Most of us want to help other countries (that's why, per person, we give more in aid to other nations than anyone, and that's personal money, not governement)
5) Most of us don't see other countries as rivals, whereas for some reason other countries see us that way (some have a reason, I realize)
6) We aren't all fat and care for nothing other than entertainment news. A huge percentage of us have advanced degrees from the same universities that many other countries send their people to for an education.
7) As the only standing superpower, we are always going to be the scapegoat, yet we are always the ones called on to help when monetary or military aid is needed (and yes, sometimes we but our fat rear ends into it when we shouldn't!
I can't think of a country in the world that I would hate just for the sake of where they are and who lives there.
If you hate America, you haven't met the real people. They certainly don't hate you!







 
kenski70
Feb 08, 2007
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: rajio Show

Could have sworn the canadians sent troops tp gulf war 1, and to Afganistan. Not to mention ww1,ww2 and pretty much every war england has fought on the last 200 years. Yet Canada's alliance with the USA means Canada dosent need to build a massive Army. they have US protection.

 

Feb 11, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

If Great Britain invented the most spoken language in the world (apart from Mandarin), then it is definitely entitled to be the best country in the world (apart from the United States).

 

Feb 18, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: dueonmaplestreet Show

I'm sorry, but you're totally off your rocker.

No matter what the EU or the UN might tell you, the United States is by far the best preserver of human rights in the world.

Guantanamo Bay is a questionable operation at best, but conditions there are exaggerated by the media and it technically is not prohibited by international law. The argument for it is one of national security, but if you don't care about American national security in the first place I'm not going to get very far with that one.

Abu Ghraib (check your spelling, or at least have the decency to fix your typos) was an undeniably embarrassing and wrong act committed by a terribly small minority within the American armed forces. The sad fact is that in every conflict you're going to have some people who disrespect their country by refusing to follow its rules and committing some crime against the enemy. However, it's an understatement to say that what happened at Abu Ghraib is royal treatment compared to what insurgents do to American captives.

I'm not denying that the United States has made mistakes in the past - every nation has. Pushing out the Native Americans and Japanese Internment were mistakes that won't be repeated. However, if you're going to examine human rights on the whole you have to conclude that the United States is a pretty good place to live.

Consider this: in the United States, there's an uproar when the government decides it can examine your mail if it's found some other incriminating information about you. Meanwhile, in China, the internet is heavily censored and people are regularly executed for minor dissidence. In Japan, 99.9% of cases that go to trial are convictions. In several Middle Eastern nations, it took until 2006 to decide that a woman didn't have to have four male witnesses to bring up a rape charge. In Iran, "Death to the Jews" is literally the national motto.

If you hate the United States so much, maybe it's time you moved to another country. Nobody's forcing you to stay here.

 
skugga
Feb 19, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

I am so sorry to upset you with my claims...I completely forgot that you are one of those Americans who don`t know that all what`s happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan etc. is called WAR! Not bringing DEMOCRACY, nor fight against TERRORISM! And all is because of arrogant U.S.

 
reezer
Feb 08, 2007
0 convinced
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Canada's close - but they have taxation out the yang.

The U.K.'s good - but they pay $6.00 a gallon for gas.

Australia... Yeah, we already have a Texas.

I'd have to say, yes, warts and all, America is the best.

 
sixthsiren
Feb 09, 2007
0 convinced
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Where else can someone put cheese in a can and make millions of dollars? Where else could someone have a singing career based on the fact that they cannot actually sing (William Hung). The land of opportunity baby! That's where.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 10, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: hyperion Show

first, you never established criteria for good versus bad, thus your argument does not link back to the question.

second, your insulting of our celebrity is pretty low. I mean insulting someone when their family falls a part is just a low blow. Besides, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

third, we can rule the world and that is a reason for being the best because when we do, you'll be paying taxes to us...

fourth, yeah we used nukes but at least now we are trying to prevent them from being used. I love your estute knowledge of history and your 20/20 hindset.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 10, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: rajio Show

Wiki is not a credible source, my brother writes pages and he is in college.

Also, is this the only indicator of quality of life? I suggest not. In fact it is low because we allow for refugees and people who are desperate to come into our country and make a living. but that is probably way beneath your standards.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 10, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: rajio Show

We are the UN in terms of actual support. We finance most of it, we house it, and it does not have any actual pragmatic backing.

B: I was attacking the source, not the idea. I don't think wiki is generally credible. I read JSTOR and Lexis-Nexis and Project Muse which are only for scholarly articles and cost llike tens of thousands a year, so i don't just type sh*t into google.

C: Your assuming that HDI does that. By definition - whose definition and is a fair one.? How is HDI decided? Is that the only factor? If it is, then how come anything else counts at all?

D. First, you never refuted our gdp. We still can buy and sell your ass anyday. I would say quality of life is capricious. How is someone's like better than another's? What standard is that based on? Who does these standards? How accurate can they be? We are the most educated, the richest and the most powerful.

E: Okay, so all countries accept refugees, then that is not a reason why US is not the best.

F: You cling to some principle to sound educated. This HDI is some fact that you looked up one night and thought that you were going to impress somebody with it. Plus you ignore my example about gpa - we don't have to be the best in everything, but overall the best. In so far as you don't argue against the other points means that you don't think there is anything wrong with them. Thus, those points prove that the US is not best at everything but the best overall.

G: You never argue what country would be the best. Clearly, the world is not egalitarian. There must be some clear favorite, why don't you tell us what it is.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 11, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: rajio Show

Wow, calm down there buddy. America is the best because it is the most dominant. Trade wise it imports more stuff. Money wise because it makes more and spends more. Militarily (sp) because it is the most powerful nation in the world and everybody is scared of us. Culturally, because we comprise of every culture and race.

As for your being smarter. Everybody look at the forum in competitive debate about UN obligations. He does not refute any author as of when I write this, and just copies and pastes stuff. You are a plagerizer. Come on, flame me.

 
ultradeepbase
Feb 12, 2007
0 convinced
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America is the greatest country in the world. If you don't believe me, here are some ideas to reconsider:

- The Wright Brothers invented the airplane (Americans)
- Micheal Jackson is the King of Pop (American)
- Whenever a british dude makes it big (John Lennon, Beckham, etc.) They always end up in our country somehow
- Larry Flynt gave the world porn (American)
- Microsoft gave you your windows (American)
- Disneyland
- Al Gore invented the Internet
- America is the only country that had the cojones to get Saddam out of power so Iraqis can enjoy the peace and prosperity they enjoy today!

 

Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: dcefrance Show

I was merely pointing out the incorrect spelling to suggest an irony - Vancam (from Great Britain according to his profile) was criticizing American education while, perhaps, he should have been paying more attention during his.

By the way, there's no such language as "American."

My statement about Nobel Prize winners was in response to the argument that the United States is lacking in innovation in science, and was not indended nor claimed to show that the United States has more Nobel Prizes per capita than the UK. I only sought to illustrate the importance of American contributions to science.

Your statistics on debt are misleading. If you're talking public debt (debt by the average consumers, not the government), then there's no question that American debt is lower than that of most other countries. You must be referring to government debt. Government debt is simply not a measure of economic power. The fact is that every country in the world owes billions of dollars to the governments of other nations - the United States is not an exception. While the National Debt is very high, keep in mind that it generally does not interfere with economic growth and that its impact is further lessened by the fact that the United States is also history's number one international money loaner.

I would be shocked if an economy based "upon credit and not value or commodities" could possibly afford Americans such a high standard of living. Actually, if you thought about it real hard, I think you'd realize that it would be very hard to have any economy at all without commodities or value. I'd be willing to bet my life that the millions of planes, freight trains, trucks, and cargo ships that are buzzing around the United States aren't transporting imaginary products that fat lazy debt-ridden American credit-card lovers buy on whim - they're carrying real commodities that drive the world economy.

 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: capitalistocrat Show

I believe the topic is "Is America the Best Country in the World?", not "Are WE the best?" America has a lot of faults as a country, but at least WE are arguing the correct topic. :)

 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: largecerebrum1 Show

What's Canada's "natural resource" again that we all want? Snow?? We have enough of that. Celine Dion? No thanks. We only borrowed her back in 1997. You can take her back now. Pleeeeease.

By the way, getting the U.S. to protect you by doing nothing doesn't make Canada a better country. A smarter one, maybe. lol Then again, what do you think America is getting from Canada in return (because you know us Americans don't do anything for anyone without an agenda. Think about that!)?



 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

I think he made a good rebuttal by noting that you can't criticize a country's educational systems if you don't even know how to spell "achievement." That was a good one! lol

 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: dcefrance Show

If you're an "American living outside of America for 20 years", why don't you get permanent citiZenship wherever you're at then? Could it be because you want to come back to America someday? Hmmmmm....



 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: naminator01 Show

I'm American (because I was born here) and my ancestors did NOT come from England. Most of the people in America did not originate from England, so get your facts straight. Also, you just provided an argument for me to volunteer Africa as the best CONTINENT in the world, because it's where EVERYONE originated from and has the most natural resources in the world. Such a pity because it has been robbed blind of its natural resources since the ENGLISH (among others) found out about them. Don't get me started on England's history....

 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: importedgoods Show

Australia? lol The penal colony of the world? lmao

 
dcefrance
Feb 15, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

"There's no such language as American"

Only an American could believe this.

The American dictionary is the Webster's dictionary. The English dictionary is the Oxford dictionary.

I have been married to a Brit for many years. I can guarantee you they are different!

As I believe you are a man try walking in to a clothing store in England and asking for a pair of suspenders!


 
scorpiel115
Feb 15, 2007
0 convinced
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Every country sucks in some way. This is a stupid debate.

 
right2write
Feb 15, 2007
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Rebuttal to: w8in Show

What argument of mine does your statement negate?

 
right2write
Feb 15, 2007
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Rebuttal to: redwallwarrior Show

So you're negating Africa being a great continent because it has to borrow money? Most nations/countries have to borrow money from other nations. And if you read your history, you'll see that most nations, especially european ones, have dipped their greedy hands in Africa's natural resources. That's why Africa is ravaged now. Check out which continent has the most trading partners, the most colonization, and the most natural resources. It will be the same answer.

 
Jordan
Feb 15, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

Let me start by saying that I LOVE England. I love the people. I love London and its diversity. I love Oxford, Cambridge and all of the intellectuals there. I love the green and the rolling hills. I lived in southern England for two years -- in Brixton (a city that I loved so much that I named one of my boys after it), Mitcham, Portsmouth, Haywards Heath, Brighton, Peckham, Houndslow and Staines. Every place I went I loved.

That being said, I was surprised at the lesser quality of life that I experienced and observed in England. Some of these things may seem petty, but they add up to a less enjoyable place to live:

-- Weather -- tons of rain and overcast. There's no other option in England. The U.S. offers many different climates. Sounds trite, but I think most people agree that good weather makes quality of life much better.
-- Affordable housing -- Outside of the council estates, it's tough to find cheap housing in England. Maybe it was just in the south, but regardless, it was very expensive compared to the U.S.
-- Too much emphasis on brands/status/trends/etc. -- I think it's odd that America gets the reputation for being obsessed with entertainment, clothes, etc. With the exception of L.A./Hollywood and Manhattan, the British are much more concerned about what people think about them than any where I have ever been. Compared to the U.S., the British much more like sheep, following the latest trends and ideologies.
-- Health care -- I don't understand why the British tout their healthcare system so much. Every time I had to go to hospital or see a doctor, it was a nightmare. The level of the medical professionals there was terrible (I don't know if that's because they don't pay them as well, or what???) I knew people there who had to wait months for a simple surgery like an ACL repair or something to repair a broken bone. It was seriously a mess.

I think I'm going to hit the 1000 character mark soon, so I'll stop. I know my observations are only observations, but in general, I find that Americans enjoy a better life than the British.


 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 15, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: dueonmaplestreet Show

"If we were the greatest country ever we would find something better to do than throw our weight around."

We are saying we are the best overall, not the greatest ever. If a class is the world and everone had a C and america had a C+, we are the best in the world. Being the best, does not mean perfect.

"Our rights are stolen daily and all we can do is throw our weight around because might equals right."

You need to read John Locke.
"IF man in the state of nature be so free, as has been said; if he be absolute lord of his own person and possessions, equal to the greatest, and subject to no body, why will he part with his freedom? why will he give up this empire, and subject himself to the dominion and controul of any other power? To which it is obvious to answer, that though in the state of nature he hath such a right, yet the enjoyment of it is very uncertain, and constantly exposed to the invasion of others: for all being kings as much as he, every man his equal, and the greater part no strict observers of equity and justice, the enjoyment of the property he has in this state is very unsafe, very unsecure. This makes him willing to quit a condition, which, however free, is full of fears and continual dangers." (Locke, John. Second Treatise On Civil Government. Chapter X)

"In Africa there are places where women gather wood because getting raped is better than having their husbands murdered, places where kids have to have an armed gaurd to sleep."

This is contradictory and irrelevant. People criticize us for going into Iraq to help out with humanitarian issues, but then complain elsewhere that we don't do enough. This is irrelevent because other nations could help Africa out too.

"We enslaved the african americans, put the japanese in internment camps, we used nuclear weapons on the Japanese, and are debating a bill that lets detainees have access to courts because of low human rights standards."

And other countries haven't? We rejected slavery a long time ago and now are known as the land of the free and the brave. Oh, and Europe started the slave trade. As far as the others go, Japanese bombed us first, we just were protecting ourselves.

"They are still human, they shouldn't have to fight for human rights, that makes us as bad as the terrorists we claim to fight."

What is "they" referring to? We are helping other countries fight for their rights-that is why we are engaging in the war on terror.

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Feb 18, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: naminator01 Show

Way to degenerate to ad hominum attacks.

 

Feb 18, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: skugga Show

Is there a sentence in there that's not an exaggeration?

Fox isn't the most popular network (ratings wise), CBS is.

There have been decades when the United States hasn't been waging war.

If the United States is the most hated nation in the world, I'm surprised we're having such trouble with massive immigration! You'd think everyone would be leaving.

It's also quite impossible for a country that was once a colony to always have been colonialist.

 

Feb 18, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: naminator01 Show

I'd like to add that the title of this debate isn't "Is America the greatest country in the world per capita?" but "Is America the greatest country in the world?"

Population isn't a factor here, unless of course you think that having a bigger population makes a country inherently better or worse. I'd like to see that argument.

 
right2write
Feb 18, 2007
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Rebuttal to: dcefrance Show

I said give up your CITIZENSHIP if you dislike America so much, not your nationality, buddy. Try reading next time. I swear, some people on this site argue just to argue, with no actual good arguments to make. Waste of time.

 
thewhitedwarf
Feb 23, 2007
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Rebuttal to: streetdebater2 Show

okay, asshat, what is your source? And first off, you haven't provided anything worthy of your own, so your claim is non-unique. But secondly, you never refuted him anyways. And thridly, that is not the only person I quote. Oh and fourthly, do you look up every debate i'm in? That is kind of creepy...

 
cali07
Jun 02, 2008
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-Most Men's Fathers or Grandfathers passions will rub off on to their sons..

-Any man can say "I would die for my country"

-Everyone hangs a flag, or sings an anthem sometime in their lives.....

But

-Only An American can say "Daddy when I grow up, I want to be somebody" AND THEY ACTUALLY CAN!!!


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Also

America is just the rich kid on the block, and all you haters are just jealous!!

 
jcinusa
Jun 13, 2008
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It absolutely is! first of all, we have one of the largest armies in the world and involve our selves in the "bringing deomcracy" policy, of which we use our military might to help other countries. Poeple might say "England outlawed slavery first" but may i remind u England and the other Europeans like Spain brought the African slaves to this land, then tout themselves with being the first coutry (U.K.) to outlaw slavery. YOU BROUGHT MASSIVE SCALE SLAVERY TO THE WORLD AND ROBBED MANY AFRICANS OF THEIR LINEAGES AND CULTURE. Good job U.K. u call ur self democratic, you're a constitutional monarchy and your Prime Minister wishes to keep Scotland in its UK bounds. You are proud u invented the computer WE INVENTED THE INTERNET AND THE POLIO VACCINE AND THE AIRPLANE AND Musical innovations such as hip-hop, jazz, rock and roll, hippie counter-culture (u guys stole it), and Modern Pop. Just because ur country has the prefix GREAT infront of it doesn’t mean its great. We could be the GREAT AND STUPENDOUS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, don’t matter the name. okay so u had Shakespeare and JK Rowling …. We had Mark Twain, William Faukner, RL STINE, Stephen King, Harper Lee (to kill a mockingbird) JD Salinger, and John Steinback, . You think ur cool cuz u brought the Beatles, Led Zepplin (may peace be upon them), and The Police (and u don’t have U2, Ireland is its own country goddamit!) ? Please, I can go on forver listing American music dat outpasts yours. We got Meatloaf, Michael Jackson, The Doors, Metallica, Guns N Roses, Madonna, Linkin Park, Johnny Cash, Slayer, Aerosmith, Megadeath, evanescense, Marylin Monroe, MCR, Pearl jam, The Ramones, Frank Sinatra, Bruce Springstein, Weird Al, Blink 182, no doubt, Eminem, Jimi Hendrix, Maroon 5, simon and garfunkle, Slipknot, Bon Jovi, Biggie Smalls, KISS, Tupac, The beach Boys, Louis Armstrong, and lynard SKynard (JUST TO NAME A FEW). WHO DID YOU BRING US? AMYWINEHOUSE? And don’t get me started on the entertainment industry….STAR WARS, Star Trek, M Night Shamalan, Stephen Speilberg, George lucas, and well even make fun of England and still make money off of it with Austin Powers and other comedies. Speaking of comedy WE ARE THE FUNNIEST COUNTRY. From Abbot and Castello to Lenny Bruce to Dave Chappel, Chris Rock, and such phenomal actors as Will Smith and Adam Sandler and Tom Cruise u cant beat us! Cosa Nostra in NY baby, giving U.S. Movies like the Godfather!! We are the most diverse melting pot, and GDP you know all about (Wall Street!) And we are the greatest war machine in the world no one can mess with us, we saved all europes asses in WWII as said before. I am a conservative because I believe in the American dream of bettering yourself. I believe that bettering yourself is something you have to do on your own. The American dream is not a government give away program, but here in the US we have the greatest oppertunities to all peoples. We also have one of the best education systems. The only bad things are liberal influence in the country i love. They overlook the fact that they are soft on Iran, North Korea and China, whos nuclear programs and W.M.D. programs are overlooked. Overall i must say USA is still #1! (and plus we invented things like the Jarvik heart, basketball, volleyball, and the T.V., and we send out the most aid to countries in need)

 
dumbrich
Jul 16, 2008
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Ok, here's the deal. The simple fact that we have to have this discussion proves that America is one of the best countries to live in... period. Is it the best? Who the hell knows. I, personally, have never lived in another country. When you vacation to a foreign place, it's great, trust me, but living there is a whole different ballgame. I don't believe there is any true way to prove which nation is the greatest. I DO know that many foreigners (more so than any other country) migrate to the USA and you know what, some live better than they've lived previously in their homelands. Forget all this talk about military, GDP, money, etc...to me the greatest country is the one you want to make home. And I live in and love my country, so chalk one vote up for the land of the free and the home of the brave.

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
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Rebuttal to: dcefrance Show

Check out Edmund Jenner. The first man who discovered a vaccine for smallpox in the 19th century. An Englishman.

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
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Rebuttal to: harveykimber Show

Oh yes you can if you are a Morman fundamentalist in Utah, or Colorado City!

 
jomom50
Apr 23, 2011
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There is no way any nation in the world can compare to us!
1. The most technologically advanced militarily with a budget of 500 Billion and rising 37 more billion in the 2011 Year. At anytime our government can call a draft on 118 Million MEN, and have them ready and deployed in a matter of years. Along with the most technologically advanced tanks in the world.
a. Massed weapon caches with modern and unmodern (Tanks (shermans, M60), Guns, Artillery)
b. Nukes, Weapon Defense Systems, Security Militias. We have it all.

2. Economy, During the great depression, which was OUR fault showed how much we are worth to the world, when we go down everyone goes down. During the Great Depression due to our struggling WORLD TRADE declined 40%
a. We brought the world out of the great depression that we cause with the HAWLEY SMOOT TAX, that raised Tarrifs to the point where no nation would trade to us.
b. We develop technology superior to any nation next to Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Mainly because of our 500 Billion dollar budget for the military!
c. Highest purchasing power in the world with china in second USA: $13,780,000,000,000 China:$7,099,000,000,000

3. We don't use our own resources until there is a desperate need, IE: Oil, Ores, Materials in general. We conserve our resources so that in times of war we have the resources available, Just like with oil, what happens when we get attacked. We fight them off our land, increase our production output, use our own resources and make our enemy submit! We destroy anything, we purposely do this. Like I said oil, US is 8th in the world with proven reserves of 21,760,000,000 bbl. We can supply ourselves for a long time.

4. Some of the smartest men in the world created our great nation, our constitution, our government! There was no government even close to ours during those times, except for the United Provinces.

5. Largest logistics system in the world, we have over 226,612 KM of Railroad 14,947 airports and 6,465,799 KM of roadways... This logistics system alone allows us to travel across our vast nation in under 3 days.

6. We have the lowest tax compared to any country in the world, our people all have access to clean water, we have ridden the world of Smallpox.. We have had some of the greatest men in the world lead this nation to achieve great things. We were the first to the moon, with a constant Space Program and research under way!

7. Largest Navy in the world with over 1559 Ships in it.. We have 11 aircraft carriers all Nimitz Super carriers. The next comparative nation has 2 and they are outdated. OUR NAVY could destroy any nation from the shore.

8. Our Airforce is the most advanced with some of the most advanced aircraft in its arsenal one being the F-35 Raptor, this plane is invisible to radar and plane detection systems, it flies at supersonic speeds for longer then 3 minutes. It is literally the pride of the airforce.

9. Education, Lately we have been slipping but out of all countries in the world we ranked 14th not bad assuming there are 34 countries in the listing with SOUTH KOREA as the highest a nation we economically help.

This info is all credible. If you want to debate weather or not we aren't the best message me at tewer55@gmail.com

 
jomom50
Apr 23, 2011
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: madzoner Show

There is no way any nation in the world can compare to us!
1. The most technologically advanced militarily with a budget of 500 Billion and rising 37 more billion in the 2011 Year. At anytime our government can call a draft on 118 Million MEN, and have them ready and deployed in a matter of years. Along with the most technologically advanced tanks in the world.
a. Massed weapon caches with modern and unmodern (Tanks (shermans, M60), Guns, Artillery)
b. Nukes, Weapon Defense Systems, Security Militias. We have it all.

2. Economy, During the great depression, which was OUR fault showed how much we are worth to the world, when we go down everyone goes down. During the Great Depression due to our struggling WORLD TRADE declined 40%
a. We brought the world out of the great depression that we cause with the HAWLEY SMOOT TAX, that raised Tarrifs to the point where no nation would trade to us.
b. We develop technology superior to any nation next to Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Mainly because of our 500 Billion dollar budget for the military!
c. Highest purchasing power in the world with china in second USA: $13,780,000,000,000 China:$7,099,000,000,000

3. We don't use our own resources until there is a desperate need, IE: Oil, Ores, Materials in general. We conserve our resources so that in times of war we have the resources available, Just like with oil, what happens when we get attacked. We fight them off our land, increase our production output, use our own resources and make our enemy submit! We destroy anything, we purposely do this. Like I said oil, US is 8th in the world with proven reserves of 21,760,000,000 bbl. We can supply ourselves for a long time.

4. Some of the smartest men in the world created our great nation, our constitution, our government! There was no government even close to ours during those times, except for the United Provinces.

5. Largest logistics system in the world, we have over 226,612 KM of Railroad 14,947 airports and 6,465,799 KM of roadways... This logistics system alone allows us to travel across our vast nation in under 3 days.

6. We have the lowest tax compared to any country in the world, our people all have access to clean water, we have ridden the world of Smallpox.. We have had some of the greatest men in the world lead this nation to achieve great things. We were the first to the moon, with a constant Space Program and research under way!

7. Largest Navy in the world with over 1559 Ships in it.. We have 11 aircraft carriers all Nimitz Super carriers. The next comparative nation has 2 and they are outdated. OUR NAVY could destroy any nation from the shore.

8. Our Airforce is the most advanced with some of the most advanced aircraft in its arsenal one being the F-35 Raptor, this plane is invisible to radar and plane detection systems, it flies at supersonic speeds for longer then 3 minutes. It is literally the pride of the airforce.

9. Education, Lately we have been slipping but out of all countries in the world we ranked 14th not bad assuming there are 34 countries in the listing with SOUTH KOREA as the highest a nation we economically help.

This info is all credible. If you want to debate weather or not we aren't the best message me at tewer55@gmail.com

 
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vancam
Feb 08, 2007
3 convinced
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I would have to disagree. I think the question should really be is America best at ....... It is certainly not the best country in the world in many areas...

Education

Health care

Historic acheivement

Innovation

Science

Infact the only areas I can see that America excells at is war and entertainment (I think most Americans get these two confused aswell).

 
capitalistocrat
Feb 09, 2007
3 convinced
Rebuttal
It is precisely this 'Are we the best?' type attitude that triggers so much anti-americanism across the world.

If america merely stopped being the loudmouth of th global community, then I am sure it would receive as much credit as it would deserve for what it is and what it does.

 
naminator01
Feb 13, 2007
3 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

Have any of you forgot where Americans came from?

England sound familiar?

Americans revolutionized against Charles III power because he passed stamp and tea taxes.

If it had not been for the English would America even exist?

Of course it would exist, you can't ignore such a huge amount aof land.

But aren't the arts you guys enjoyed during the 70's from england? Just to name a few: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles.

Oh and America is too proud: The only way you guys are so rich is because you guys were the keypoint in the triangle trade of slaves.

Your people even cry about immigrants, yet you took lands from native americans.

I guess i take the biggest piece.

 
rajio
Feb 14, 2007
3 convinced
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have a look at the UN's overview of child wellbeing in rich countries.


http://www.unicef-icdc.org/presscentre/presskit/reportcard7/rc7_eng.pdf

The US ranks 20th ... below Hungary!

The U.S. ranks last in health and safety, with the highest rates of relative child poverty and teenage obesity, according to the report. Only 60 percent of U.S. children live with both parents, compared with 90 percent in Greece, the report said.


 
shehzad
Feb 14, 2007
3 convinced
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The US defence industry is one of the biggest source of revenues for the american economy. everytime america has been at war, the economic activity has surged.

Post world war 2 there has not been a single decade when america wasn't at war (a major engagement, otherwise they end up bombing or fighting anyone every year almost).

The defence industry controls the government, and with the conservatives controlling the major medias they can brainwash the average american into believing that he/she is at risk from other nations.

the only reason america didn't get discovered for so long and is practically a baby in terms of the age of nations is because it is so far away from any other country. Except for the select few that possess ICBM's, no country can pose an ACTUAL threat to america. It's all hogwash to get the general public's vote to go to war and then mint money!

If the American's can't see this then far from being a great nation, they are the stupidest nation. And they have the President to prove it!

 
dueonmaplestreet
Feb 15, 2007
3 convinced
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If we were the greatest country ever we would find something better to do than throw our weight around. Guantanamo Bay, Abu Gharib, No Knock Entry. Our rights are stolen daily and all we can do is throw our weight around because might equals right.
We can't maybe find some way to make our resources and might work to the world's advantage by helping the less fortunate, we can't admit we were wrong and move on.
In Africa there are places where women gather wood because getting raped is better than having their husbands murdered, places where kids have to have an armed gaurd to sleep.
We enslaved the african americans, put the japanese in internment camps, we used nuclear weapons on the Japanese, and are debating a bill that lets detainees have access to courts because of low human rights standards. They are still human, they shouldn't have to fight for human rights, that makes us as bad as the terrorists we claim to fight.

 
rajio
Feb 08, 2007
2 convinced
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The Human Development Index is a good indicator of quality of life in a country. In 2006 the United states ranked eighth and has never (not once) topped this list. So as far as being a human being in a country goes, its not the best in America clearly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

 
vancam
Feb 08, 2007
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: reezer Show

"The U.K.'s good - but they pay $6.00 a gallon for gas.

I'd have to say, yes, warts and all, America is the best."

Are you kidding, that's your argument?

The United Kingdom leads the world in scientific innovation.

Was the first country to outlaw slavery.

Invented the widest spoken langauge in the world (apart from mandarin).

Is the only country with the prefix 'Great" before it.

Invented the computer.

Home to most of the greatest literary authors.

Is home to most of the largest selling music artists in the world.

To name but a few reasons I would say it is better than America. And just to be very very clear I don't even place the United Kingdom as the best country in the world.... I can think of plently of other countries that go above both the United Kingdom and the United States as better countries....

Holland
Sweden
Canada
France

and close calls

Italy
Spain
Portugal
japan

The fact is America just isn't as good as the people who live there are told it is (Fox News is the latest propoganda machine).



 
largecerebrum1
Feb 08, 2007
2 convinced
Rebuttal
Canada has a significantly lower murder rate than the US.

Yes, we do have American protection. Isn't it great? We get better defence without having to spend much money. Of course, even if we didn't have it, we still wouldn't be spending much on our armed forces anyways as who'd invade Canada anyways besides the US (We know you want our natural resources :p)?

 
rajio
Feb 10, 2007
2 convinced
Rebuttal
Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show

A: if you don't believe wikipedia, just check the United Nations documents for yourself. Its fact.

Here it is:

http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/pdfs/report/HDR06-complete.pdf

B: are you calling your brother a liar or college people stupid? .... thats irrelevant anyhow.

C: The Human Development Index pretty much illustrares quality of life by definition. Thats what its designed to do. Thats specifically what it does.

D: Are you saying that because you allow refugees that it lowers your quality of life? if it does, than quality of life is worse in America and therefore is not the best country to live in.

E: MANY countries accept refugees. Many, in fact, accept refugees more freely. If you think America is the only country that accepts refugees or that they accept them more readily than any other, then you are missinformed.

F: Below MY standards? The HDI is there specifically because of immigration to provide potential immigrants with information as to the relative quality of living in each country. Furthermore the HDI arent MY standards, they are the United nations' standards

 
dcefrance
Feb 13, 2007
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

"Don't criticize until you lean to spell" a word in American correctly.

Because spelling of a language, whether it be one's native tongue or not, is the greatest indicator of intelligence and validity???

"The United States has been home to 270 Nobel Prize winners, almost three times as many as the next nation on the list, Great Britain with 101."

The US has a population 5 times greater than Great Britain (300 M compared to 60 M) yet only 2.7 times as many Nobel Prize winners. Doesn't sound like an outright win to me.

I believe you need to double-check some of your invention origins, especially the computer (UK) and the vaccine (France)...

The "nation that makes up over a third of the world economy" also makes up over half of the world's debt and has an economy based upon credit and not value or commodities.

The American military is not necessarily the most powerful any more either although America needs to believe it is which may explain why it has to put it in to use so regularly.

To reply to your own phrase: You should do a little research and get a better grip on reality before so insulting foreigners or others who criticise America. A criticism is not an insult.

- Signed an American living outside of America for over 20 years -


 
stoyve
Feb 13, 2007
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: ultradeepbase Show

That list convinced me that America isn't the greatest country in the world, but rather the best at capitalism and believing that anybody really gives two sh*ts about Al Gore.

Anyway, I didn't want to take sides in this argument, which is unfortunate because that is essentially the idea behind this website. But nothing will ever convince me that Michael Jackson being the King of Pop (ignoring his freakish nature) is enough to make the country he was born in great.

Disneyworld is in Florida.

Disneyland Europe/EuroDisney is in France. Talk about sh*tty locations.

Don't get me wrong, America is great. America is the sh*t. There's plenty I love about the country. But it's not top of my list.

 
w8in
Feb 14, 2007
2 convinced
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I hardly think a country that not so long ago prided itself in segregational politics, has such a high crime rate and hard drug use rate, still struggles with racial issues, is still intolerant of homosexuals in the year 2007, thinks it needs to police and bully the world and has mainstream media that tries to keep its citizens uninformed can be called "great" or "the greatest".

To be honest, I don't think any country should be called "the greatest". It's not a race. Any country will have negative aspects as well as positive aspects. It's a good intent to try to reach or stay in the top 10 lists such as "freedom of speech", "low crime rates", etc. and every country should strive to make it into those lists, but in the end there will be no winner, nor should there be.

 
lucym7
Feb 14, 2007
2 convinced
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No it certainly isn't and I wish Blair had the balls to not follow Bush on his 'War On Terror'. It's caused us nothing but trouble in the UK and it's trouble that none of us asked for.

 
nobrainsme
Feb 14, 2007
2 convinced
Rebuttal
You only have to look at George Bush to give you the answer...he seems to sum up the whole country...
hypocritical dumbasses!

 
redwallwarrior
Feb 14, 2007
2 convinced
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The Uk is way better

 
redwallwarrior
Feb 14, 2007
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

as opposed to the death penalty

 
jjalsop
Feb 15, 2007
2 convinced
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America is not the best country in the world.

65% of US homicides were committed with firearms, versus 32% in Canada.

There is something America loses at, therefore not the best.

 
vancam
Feb 09, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

Don't be so sensitive. I suggest you stay out of debates that have such arrogant and provactive statements. You are likely to get rebuked with staements just as arrogant and provocative.

Maybe I'm not the one who needs to "get a grip".



 
hyperion
Feb 09, 2007
1 convinced
Rebuttal
the current american government has legalised torture.
the president can legally read your mail.
they can listen in on your conversations.
the prisons are filling with people who smoked marijuana, for no reason.
the death of a white trash whore is more important than a debate about god and atheism.
you think you can rule the world.
america is the only nation to use nuclear weapons on another, and you are led to believe that NK is a real threat.

america is far from the 'best'.

 
rajio
Feb 11, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show

You seem to like itemizing things so let me itemize my rebuttal to follow suit.

The US isn't the UN. thts why its called the UN and not "USA & friends". Whoopdee doo the HQ is in the US. Guess what: thats irrelevant anyhow. their HQ could be on the moon and it wouldnt make any difference.


B: ok so you like expensive journals. Thats nice. I read too. You are assuming that others don't read? You don't know me and you don't know my educational background so don't condescend please.. The cost of a journal also does not indicate reliability or educational value. I'm not sure why you felt the need to state how much it costs.

C: Firstly the UN is very open how HDI is calculated. Look it up because If i cite how its looked up you will say I'm assuming things again. Secondly I didn't say that it indicates quality of life to the exclusion of all other indicators but that it is by design the best indicator.

D. I never disputed GDP because GDP as an indicator is flawed. try deducting the amount of debt your country is in from that then see how it stands. That also doesn't factor quality of life but just economic product. These things are not correlated and in fact GDP is irrelevant to many cultures who have different value systems than you. You can't buy or sell my ass any day either. Did you buy Iraq? How much are you going to sell it for? You are also very very far from the most educated and what makes you the msot powerful is your stockpile of over ten thousand nuclear warheads - I would hardly call that (subjective as it may be) 'the best'.

E: We agree on this point.

F: GDP does not make you the best. Maybe in your eyes it does but I recommend looking in to what that figure actually represents and what it excludes. I don't cling to the principle of HDI but merely point out that that is why its there, this is what its designed to do and you don't dispute it or even bother looking into how it is arrived at. You just sneer 'we have a higher Gdp so there!' Stop trying to condescend against people with whom you have no familiarity. It makes you seem pretentious and ignorant. The fact of the matter is that in all likelihood I am more educated than you are but that is irrelevant and I don't make a point of it despite your repeated attempts to inflate your ego by bashing others and claiming that they 'assume' things and want to 'impress somebody'. The lady doth protest too much, methinks!

G: I don't need to argue what country is the best in the world. In fact I dont even need to believe that there IS a 'best' country in the world. This debate centers around either the USA is or isn't the best in the world. For someone who claims to be so well read and educated and such a praised debater you don't really pay much attention to the positions and arguments but instead seem intent on personal attacks, academic condescention, and straw man arguments.

 
rajio
Feb 11, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show

So your argument boils down to 'we consume more and everyone is scared of us'?

...nice.

If thats how you qualify as 'better' then...well....good luck with that.

Secondly i never claimed to be smarter but that you're condescending. Are you disputing that fact?

Can you qualify your allegation that i'm a plagiarizer?

Back yourself up. Go for it.

 
naminator01
Feb 13, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

I also forgot to add.


If you compare the 270 nobel prizes to the population of the U.S and compare it to the ratio of say... England you will of course see an inmense difference.

You are ignorant.

 
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonemi Show

That's a good test to run, but we all know that perception is reality and America has the best public relations/marketing campaign of all countries. Remember, Hollywood (the land of make-believe) churns out a lot of the movies and TV shows that influence people's fantasies of America being this wonderful, wealthy country where money grows on trees. Many immigrants become disillusioned once they get here....

 
w8in
Feb 14, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

I've been living in the USA for the last 7 years and I don't want to become a US citizen.

I guess that negates your argument...

 
redwallwarrior
Feb 14, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

Africa can't be the greatest continent in the world because African Nations has to borrow money and food from richer countries

 
hyperion
Feb 15, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

umm... england/britain is over 1000 years old. america is just over 200. give america 800 more years (not likely) and crap's gonna happen

 
dcefrance
Feb 15, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

"If you're an "American living outside of America for 20 years", why don't you get permanent citiZenship wherever you're at then? Could it be because you want to come back to America someday?"

At no point did I say I did not have another nationality. However it is extremely difficult to "give up" a nationality.

The mention of my (current or past) American citizenship was simply as background information for the rest of my comments.

I have no plans at all to come back to America. I have been away for 24 years and have been back to visit once in all that time which was simply to show my children how true my comments had been throughout their childhood about the country I came from.


 
dcefrance
Feb 15, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

"If you're an "American living outside of America for 20 years",
why don't you get permanent citiZenship wherever you're at then?"

An additional comment to the same question: Have you ever tried this?

The simple fact of long-term residency in a country does not grant one the right to citizenship.



 
skugga
Feb 15, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: nix Show

You don`t watch fox tv, you don`t like Bush, you don`t support the war so on... But Fox tv is one of the most popular tv, you chose Bush second time and there is not any moment that U.S. wage war against a nation or create a problem or add fuel to the fire anyplace in the world where you have interest . U.S is the most hated nation in the world because you`ve always been two-faced and colonialist. However, I have some American friends that I like very much.

 
redwallwarrior
Feb 15, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

The only reason why Africa has the most trading partners, the most colonization is because they are despret for money to use on civil wars yet they are doing nothing about the health of africans thats why most people there only live to be about 40. Europe is only using those natural resources because Africa isn't. Another reason why Africa has the most trading partners is because its underdeveloped and other nations are trying to help it.

 
importedgoods
Feb 16, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

You wanna take me you b*tch you f**king ignorant american.

 
anarchistica
Mar 23, 2007
1 convinced
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How could any even claim this? Obviously, Russia is a lot "greater": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_outlying_territories_by_area

But seriously, just to name a handful of things:

Crime rates, compared to the Netherlands:

- 1.2 times as many robberies
- 2.8 times as many assaults
- 2.9 times as many rapes
- 3.8 times as many murders
- 4.4 times as many prosecuted
- 6.3 times as many prisoners

And the Netherlands don't score too well when it comes to crime.

Further comparison to the Netherlands:

- Death penalty abolished in 1870
- Since 1945 only 32 people got sentenced for life
- Soft drugs are tolerated in small amounts
- Prostitution is legal
- Gay marriage is legal

(+ means positive for the US compared to the Netherlands)

+ Abortion laws are more liberal in the US. Over here there's a 5 day waiting period and you can't abort after the 21st week.
+ Life actually means life in the Netherlands. You can only get a royal pardon and only 2 people got one (since 1945), both terminally ill. In the US it's easier to get free.

Furthermore, the US scores pathetically when it comes to things as press freedom (Netherlands are #1 w/ Fin-, Ice- and Ireland), the quality of lives of children (Netherlands are #1) or AIDS (5,5 times as many people with AIDS in the US)

Government priorities differ greatly too. The US government spends a quarter (25%!) of its expenditures on the military (500 billion out of 2 trillion) which is 3.2% of the GDP. The Netherlands spends 1,5% of its GDP on the military (in total more than Israel, in percentages more than North Korea) or about 6% of the government expenditures. For some $10 million our entire country is shielded by F16s, the last time a passenger plane lost contact it was intercepted in less than half an hour. The US couldn't even keep its military headquarters or its most populous town shielded with a budget of $300 million.

To complete the comparison, consider that in the US there are about 100 million privately owned firearm. One for every three Americans. In the Netherlands there is one privately owned firearm for every 113 Dutch. In the US 150 cops get killed every year, over here the last cop who got killed was killed by a German, several years ago. Between '95 and '05 nearly 4000 Americans were killed by their own cops (3150 by former allies and/or terrorists). That's 400 per year. Even on a population 18 times as large, that's a lot seeing as virtually no one gets killed by cops here (brutalised yeah, killed no). At worst, its 1-2 per year (as opposed to 1-2 per day).

Notice that i'm not even mentioning foreign policy.

 
madzoner
Apr 22, 2008
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show



"First, we have the biggest army in the world. In terms of power, no one comes close. We can take your sorry ass country over in like a week."

In terms of worlds largest armies you rank 6th:

1. China 1,600,000
2. India 1,100,000
3. North Korea 950,000
4. South Korea 560,000
5. Pakistan 550,000
6. USA 477,800

You may be able to take over a country in a week (I would love to see it happen against the top 5 in the above list) but once you have it you cant do anything you want with it...case and point Iraq, recently history Vietnam.

"Second, we have the highest GDP. As far as production goes, nobody beats us."

Actualy Highest GDP per capita lists as follows:

1. Luxembourg $71,400
2. Equatorial Guinea 50,200
3. United Arab Emirates 49,700
4. Norway 46,300
5. Ireland 44,500
6. United States 43,800

So you're not quite the hardest working nation.

"Third, we are not afraid of our ass. We are the hardest workers in the world. (see gdp)"

See above stat. Also, let's not forget that in WW2, the US didnt even come in to the frey (fully committed) until it was attacked, while other countries were fully committed from the beginning..doing what's right, not just what's best for them. If Pearl Harbour never happened, I wonder if the US would have even become involved. IIMO, the only reason they did was because it would have been political suicide if they didn't attack the aggressors.

Let's not overlook the fact that you are soft on Iran, North Korea and China. They prove to be greater threats to the US than Iraq, yet their nuclear programs (or weapons of mass destruction) are overlooked. Who's scared now?

"Fourth, the gd UN sits in our backyard in NY" .

Yes, but the US owes the UN more than $1.246 billion in unpaid dues. So in essence...the US is a 'deadbeat dad.'

"Fifth, we saved all your asses in WWII."

WW2 mililitary numbers by Country:

Germany - 18,200,000
vs
Soviet Union - 34,476,700
British Commonwealth - 11,115,000
United States - 16,596,639

These numbers include listed military strength. When you take into consideration that the US was involved heavily in Japan, as well as held a majority of forces at home....it would seem as though they alone did not win ww2, contrary to 'Saving Private Ryan' loyalists. Had the Germans not made the fatal error of attacking Russia, (never mind the fact that they did so during the winter), then I beleive history would have played out a little differently.

"Sixth, we destroy you at olympics when we try."

Accepted, but a jock mentality usually is over compensation for other things that are lacking.

"As a personal note, we stole England's soccer player, Beckham,"

Yeah well, Beckham sucks anyways...

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

Alexander Graham Bell who invented the telephone was actually a Scotsman. Edmund Jenner was an Englishman in the 19th century who came up with the first known vaccine for smallpox. He discovered that milkmaids who milked cows infected with cowpox did not get smallpox. So he used the cowpox virus and injected people with that to fight off smallpox!

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
1 convinced
Rebuttal
Someone said America invented the vaccine I beg to differ! It was actually an Englishman Edmund Jenner who discovered a vaccine that would work against smallpox by using the cowpox vaccine, and that was in the 19th century. Alexander Fleming another Brit discovered pennicillin, and Alexander Graham Bell who invented the telephone was actually a Scotsman.

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Show

The television was first patented and created by John Logie Baird a Scotsman! The Computer was first developed in the labs of Manchester University ,England.

 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jcinusa Show

John Logie Baird a Scotsman invented the TV.

 
sevenmadeleine
Jul 25, 2010
1 convinced
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There are so many different definitions as to what "great" really constitutes.
Some people might associate great with historical achievements, some with overall annual general domestic product, others with their quality of people etc. Personally, I don't think that America is in fact the greatest country in the world - way too much debt, "spending before you earn" lifestyle, pretty imperfect education system, degrees of government incompetence and the ilk. However, I do believe that America has sustained itself long enough as a world super-power, and that in itself, should be grounds for the most fundamental forms of respect.

 
rajio
Feb 08, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: reezer Show

Canada doesn't have excess taxation but the taxation also pays for things like national health care. In Canada taxes pay for the public and the global good, not for wars.

 
rajio
Feb 08, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: kenski70 Show

I didn't say canada never sends troops anywhere.

Canadians wouldnt be in Afghanistan if it wasn't for Americans.

Canada engaged in WWI and WWII for the global good. Canada in fact invented peacekeepers. While Canada has a military it doesn't spend trillions of dollers on military proliferation and invasion but rather for global support and humanitarian goals. Yes they fight but not ike the USA. Canada doesn't need a massive army because it doesn't consider projecting its policy into other sovereign nations and doesn't have a militaristic leaning. Canada does not, in fact, have the US protection or an alliance with the US for any such protection. Canada in fact does not want or need US protection. If you want to go there, we can, but thats not really the issue of this debate.

Just look at how much the US spends on armed forces.

http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/mil_arm_for_per-military-armed-forces-personnel

 
importedgoods
Feb 14, 2007
0 convinced
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Australia is

Nuff sed

 
streetdebater2
Feb 16, 2007
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Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show

Newsflash: The writings of John Locke are not the word of god and no substitute for facts. You don't have to quote him extensively in every debate you enter or attempt to use his quotations as counterpoints to actual facts.

 
redwallwarrior
Feb 16, 2007
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Rebuttal to: right2write Show

Well it's not like Africans were using them and the only thing Africans could really do was hunt animals, build straw huts and dance around half naked moving their tongues really fast. England has the most interesting history in the world better than America or Africa.

 
skugga
Feb 19, 2007
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Rebuttal to: ultradeepbase Show

Do you live in Jupiter or you never listen to news? In Iraq, there is at least one blast and at least 70 death people. I don`t mean that Saddam was a great leader but Americans kill more people everyday than Saddam has killed during his entire life.Yeah! As you said they enjoy the peace and prosperity brought by Americans, a lot!

 
vancam
Feb 19, 2007
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Rebuttal to: skugga Show

"I am so sorry to upset you with my claims...I completely forgot that you are one of those Americans who don`t know that all what`s happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan etc. is called WAR! Not bringing DEMOCRACY, nor fight against TERRORISM! And all is because of arrogant U.S."

..............................................................................

If hyou called it WAR then you wouldn't be allowed to keep calling those illegally kept prisoners "enenmy combatants". Can't have your cake and eat it.


 
marie
Jul 19, 2007
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Well,

I may not be objective but I think it depends on what kind of life you want : capitalistic life in America, hot weather in exotic countries (but poorer)...

I would not live in Amercia for m

 
harveykimber
Feb 12, 2008
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In America you must be 21 to drink alcohol. In other countries, you can be 18

 
harveykimber
Apr 13, 2008
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You can't perform polygamy in America.

 
krystallf
May 06, 2009
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Rebuttal to: reezer Show

You already have a Texas!
Australia has free health care for starters, we are resource rich, democratic and free. Isolated from other countries so disease spreading, smuggling all that involves is not such a problem here. We are the holiday country, we are relaxed, have beautiful land, beaches, outback, mountains, and city's on a world scale. The state of Texas in the United States is HARDLY comparable.


 
annieb
Feb 13, 2010
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Rebuttal to: thewhitedwarf Show

The African's themselves started their own slave trade, because they sold their captives from their numerous tribal wars to slavetraders!

 
bvn
Oct 28, 2010
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Rebuttal to: Show

Even though it MIGHT be the "greatest" (*cough* *cough*) country in the world, it is the most hated. America symbolizes IGNORANCE, ARROGANCE, STUPIDITY, and many other things. The saddest thing is that most Americans don't realize they're the most hated country....which further proves how ignorant America is. If you're the "greatest" country in the world, why is your obesity level, percentage of homeless people, healthcare, infant mortality rate, death rate, percentage of illiterate people (people who can't read or write), and many things the highest in the world? If you're so rich and mighty and powerful, why do you have the worst literacy rate? the worst healthcare (did you know Canadians get 80% off their meds...can you say the same thing about America...f**k no...)? the highest crime rate? WHY ARE YOU THE MOST HATED?....and if anyone says "because we're the best and everyone else is just jealous" I will f**king strip, rape, and kill your American ass. YOU THINK A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE (MUSLIMS) ARE WILLING TO FUCKING GIVE UP THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING JEALOUS??!!! ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID?....obviously yes. And did you know 90% of the European countries hate America? And if America is so "great", morally and economically, why do you legalize firearms? America supplies the most weapons to countries, especially the Middle East. In fact, American supplies more weapons to other countries that all the European countries COMBINED. My point: America is an advocate of violence. Everything America does, she does it for money. America is a b*tch, and if her cursed progenies don't come to realize their mistakes, one day, just like what happened to Babylon, people from all around the world will revolt against America and destroy her. No, I am not Muslim or European. I'm American, from Texas. I'm just trying to warn my fellow ignorant brothers and sisters that we must change the way we deal with foreign affairs and treat other countries as people, not ways to get rich. Because if we don't, eventually hatred will lead to action, and all those countries that hates us will be the reason for our downfall.

 
immy1000
Dec 26, 2010
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No country is better than the next, it is the same as saying black people should be slaves to white people it is just unfair and wrong. In another context it is the sort of petty thing you would say in the playground when you are about 4 eg. girls are better than boys, I am better than you because I have this latest gadget etc. it is just stupid and immature, no matter which countries tax is lower there will be another country that beats it in fuel or house prices.

 
dalelief
Nov 27, 2011
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No
Australia FTW!

 


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