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The United States federal gov. should substantially reduce its military and/or police presence in Afghanistan.
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sammie02890
Nov 12, 2010
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sullyman45
Nov 16, 2010
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Rebuttal to: macaryl95 Show

okay. you do bring up a good point. yes we dont like terrorists like most of the world. but our job in Afghanistan was not to just see how many terrorists we could kill. our goal was to capture Osama ben Laddin, which we have not and so i think we should stay. yes this gives them a chance to regroup, but the Taliban was really the only decent government that the country has had. so if youre going to go against this you might want to study up a bit to learn why we should be staying.

 
sullyman45
Nov 16, 2010
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1. the muslim fundamentalists arent trying to send us into the dark ages. i mean they use modern weapons right now, and i dont think theyre going to stop for a while. all the fundamentalists are trying to do is an extreme form of Jihad, or defending the faith. 2. the islam faith isnt the only religion with fundamentalists, christians have some too. ever heard of the kkk? yup theyre an "extremists" group.

 
sullyman45
Nov 16, 2010
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about my first rebuttal, i believe we should leave. id also like ot point out that we are angering the Afghani people and if we dont leave, then more violence will come. osama ben laddin hasnt been found yet, so i dont htink well ever find him. yes, i do agree though that we should stay and keep seaarching for him, but we dont have the soilders or money to support this cause.

 
sullyman45
Nov 23, 2010
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first of all nazi's and communists arent religious extremist groups. second the kkk and nazis didnt want the same basic thing. kkk wants no blacks. nazi's wanted a white,blonde hair, blue eyed race. this is because they considered that the perfect race. and not all kkk's kill all black people. only black people that are "out of place". do research first of all and get back to me on this subject. learn about these religions and these forms of governments. then talk to me when youve done that. the communist thing is correct, but they do this so that the government doesnt go into debt or the people dont go into debt and so everybdy is treated equally.

 
sullyman45
Nov 23, 2010
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muslim women are expected to obey their husbands commands as they dont always marry for love, but they are forced to marry by arrangement. again, do research.

 
vancam
Nov 23, 2010
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I see what you did there. You confused a religion with two ideologies and an extreme racist group.

 
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macaryl95
Nov 12, 2010
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giving the enemy their ground back allows them the opportunity to reinforce, then try to take over on our land. its easier to stay.

 
flyboy1996
Nov 13, 2010
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I think we should just bomb the hell out of the middle east. the muslim exrtemists want to go back to the dark ages so lets just send them there

 
flyboy1996
Nov 23, 2010
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I never said there were not cristian extremists groups or extremists groups in other religions i'm just saying groups like these need to be dealt with. they all have bad intentions.

One thing the Nazis, Muslims, KKK,and communists all have in common is a search for a backwards dreamland from the past that never really existed.

Nazis wanted a blonde, atheist, aryan world were everbody joined the military and killed people who were different.

Muslims want a poor dark age society were women obey their husbabds every command. And everybody to have a beard and obey the religous cook overlords.

The KKK wanted a world similar to the nazis where everbody was white and obediant.

Communists want some weird world were everybody is handed just anough to live off of regardless of what they do.

All these worlds never actually existed and attemps at making these worlds have gone horribly wrong.


 
flyboy1996
Nov 24, 2010
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I never said they were all religous extremist groups i said they were political extermists groups. and yes the kkk wanted a all white society. their goal was to get the blacks out of the country. sure they didn't want the blonde super population like the nazis.

communists don't do this so the goverment or people don't fall in to debt they do it because they are greedy, godless, narssistic, rulers. all they wan't is control over the people. and not everybody is treated equally only the rulers friends and family get fair treatment.

But this is not even the main point of the debate. my main point is that the taliban are a dangerous group that needs to be dealt with.

 
flyboy1996
Nov 24, 2010
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Shut up. thats why the muslims are trying to go back in the dark ages. it is , and has been outdated to force women to marry men for the last 100 years. and the idea that women are evil and need to hide their shame has been outdated since 2000 years ago. and they obey their husbands not because their religion tells them to but because they get stoned if they disobey their husbands.

 
flyboy1996
Nov 24, 2010
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Okay like i said to sullyman45 i never said the nazis and communists were religous. i said they were political extermist groups. the kkk is a group that misinterpreted cristianity.

I see what you did there. You misread my argument.

 


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