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Libraries are Pirates!
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ustation
Feb 08, 2007
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Libraries should be illegal, because they pirate copywritten material!


ustation
Feb 08, 2007
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What's the difference between a library, and downloading illegal material from the internet?

 
ustation
Feb 08, 2007
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Rebuttal to: thales Show

What if you own a digital version of some content (book, movie, music) and you want to lend it someone, instead of sending it physically into someone's hand (via mail), you lend it to them electronically (let's say a torrent) and they destroyed it afterwards? Does that violate copyright laws?

Let's say libraries decide to go completely virtual, and lend all materials electronically. As long as you PROMISE, SWEAR, and CROSS YOUR HEART, to delete the material when you are done, does that violate copyright laws? More importantly, would that be wrong?

 
ustation
Feb 09, 2007
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"One copy is still all that exists, which is how libraries function. If I lend it to a friend and he copies it and keeps the copy so that he doesn't have to buy his own, then that is a violation of copyright law. "

Then why do photocopiers exist in Libraries at all? Doesn't that help facilitate violating copyright?

 
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Libraries provide knowledge to those who choose (or cannot afford) not to purchase exclusively, and


thales
Feb 08, 2007
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The other side is a bizarre misinterpretation of copyright law. If I own a book, I may lend it to whomever I choose. One copy is still all that exists, which is how libraries function. If I lend it to a friend and he copies it and keeps the copy so that he doesn't have to buy his own, then that is a violation of copyright law. And that's what Internet piracy is about--you keep your copy.

 
brivapor
Feb 08, 2007
2 convinced
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I would never read anything if it werent for the local library

 
thales
Feb 08, 2007
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: ustation Show

"What if you own a digital version of some content (book, movie, music) and you want to lend it someone, instead of sending it physically into someone's hand (via mail), you lend it to them electronically (let's say a torrent) and they destroyed it afterwards? Does that violate copyright laws?"

No, it does not. That is precisely why so many LEGIT download sites tell you that you can download whatever you want--as long as you only keep it for 24 hours. After that, you are expected to purchase a copy. Enforcement is obviously a problem, but please note that it was Napster that got sued, and not your local library.

There IS a reason for that, you know.

 
thales
Feb 10, 2007
1 convinced
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"Then why do photocopiers exist in Libraries at all? Doesn't that help facilitate violating copyright? "

It does, which is why many libraries post warnings on their photocopiers reminding you to check copyright laws. Since there are exceptions for educational purposes, copying is not automatically illegal, so libraries provide the service and expect that you will use it legally.

As I understand it, it is okay to copy a few pages of a book so that you don't have to take all of the books you need out of the library (your intent was not to own a copy of the material; it was just a logistical thing). It is NOT okay for teachers to run
off 25 copies of a book so that their students don't have to buy it (the library only HAD one or two copies, so this creates more to accomodate more users).

Even so, enforcement probably wouldn't be a priority unless someone is SELLING copies (the dime for the photocopier doesn't count), or unless it is happening on a massive scale.

 


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