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violence vs. nonviolence
Philosophy

yoli
Aug 17, 2010
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freemind
Aug 17, 2010
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Not as a permanent solution, but just to keep things on an even keel.

 
larryt700
Aug 18, 2010
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Typical libtard can't think outside the box.

Except when LIBTARDS cry genocide, ethnic cleansing and other crap to get us involved in crap!

What a bunch of hypocrits!!!

 
larryt700
Aug 18, 2010
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Don't you have a terrorist's ass to kiss? I think he needs a massage first....

 
gatorsf80
Aug 18, 2010
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Depends on the situation, Non-violent approach must be tried first. If it fails, under specific circumstance violence send the message. It gets the job done.

 
freemind
Aug 20, 2010
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Sometimes the best defense is a good swift kick to the head. So aren't you on the wrong side?

 
liberalthinker
Sep 06, 2010
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Not going to lie
when the revolution rolls in
heads are gonna fly
because the people will win
bastards had it comin
don't care who you say you are
if riches you be frontin
here come the feathers and tar

“The Interrogation of the Good” – Bertolt Brecht
Step forward: we hear
That you are a good man.

You cannot be bought, but the lightning
Which strikes the house, also
Cannot be bought.
You hold to what you said.
But what did you say?
You are honest, you say your opinion.
Which opinion?
You are brave.
Against whom?
You are wise.
For whom?
You do not consider your personal advantages.
Whose advantages do you consider then?
You are a good friend.
Are you also a good friend of the good people?

Hear us then: we know.
You are our enemy. This is why we shall
Now put you in front of a wall. But in consideration
of your merits and good qualities
We shall put you in front of a good wall and shoot you
With a good bullet from a good gun and bury you
With a good shovel in the good earth.




 
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againstthecurrents
Aug 18, 2010
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Violence is only justified in self defense.

Every social movement that has been successful ended up being so because of work done within the system. Violence destroys the legitimacy of movements and opinion.

 
liberalthinker
Sep 06, 2010
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Isn't "self defense" the "reason" for all violence? Like preemptive wars in the Middle East.
I am at the point in my wonderings where I can't say whether I am for violence or against.

I will say that I cannot align myself with the fools on the other side of THIS debate. I debate with the underdog.

Violence begets violence. Why do "terrorists" commit murder? Could have anything to do with the years we have spent meddling in the Middle East? Anything to do with 3,600 dead Afghani civilians this year? Anything to do with over a hundred thousand dead Iraqi civilians? Anything to do with troops stationed in Mecca? Anything to do with out funding the mujahadeen that helped bring down one of the most progressive governments of all time in Afghanistan, leaving it for the Taliban?

Responding with violence immediately places you on their same level. The contest should not be who is left, it should be who is right. To die a victim leaves you the moral victor. Life is worth nothing if we do not live like men. We control what it means to be a man. If you kill, you justify killing for every other murderer. If what we want humans to be is peaceful, we must be peaceful. Then we will live as men.

I understand, you can be angry, I understand how it can make you want to strike back. But don't you see how it is easier to retaliate an eye for an eye? Do you see how much harder it is to turn the other cheek? It is true courage to refuse to be protected by your anger and your hate because these are the only things that can allow you to kill. As long as you allow this fiery blanket to cover you the ice of murderer cannot affect you. But just because it is warmer near the furnace of your anger doesn't make you right.

The cowardice of violence is how easy it is to allow our hate to protect us, rather than brave the violence against us without striking back.

 
liberalthinker
Sep 06, 2010
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"Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do..."

 
Philip Wood
Feb 12, 2015
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Far better to win an argument due to your intelligence and powers of persuasion, then there is no need for violence at all!

 


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