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Video Games are Good/Harmful
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shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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Absolutely good, if not necessary


vancam
Jul 21, 2010
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

Thank you. I was wondering what I might do tonight once I get home from my full-time job, have had a meal with my girlfriend and gone out for a run (in training for another half marathon) and then you reminded me... I'll play an RPG (in this case probably Fable 2). You see, despite playing RPG's for the past 20 years I've somehow managed to lead a perfectly normal, and some might say, successful life. I don't agree that games are like drugs, I'm rather pleased to say they are quite different and often complimentary. I don't agree that games are damaging and rather think they enable players to understand resource management whilst being thoroughly entertaining. I don't agree that 'too many parents are now worried for their children for their lack of social ability' but rather, parents are worried for their children due to misinformed and sensationalized comments from the media and people like yourself. I would even go so far as to say that I entirely, completely and 100% disagree with your post. Ps; see, you're not the only one who doesn't need paragraphs :P

 
frankiej4189
Jul 21, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

Going out and partying every night in college can destroy a studen'ts time management skills as well bud. Life is full of distractions. One of the things that separates mature people from immature people is their ability to know that they have to do what they need to do in order to do the things they want to do.

 
rossmond
Jul 21, 2010
1 convinced
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If a childs school work or social life is suffering due to an RPG or video game then should it not be the parents responsability to put their foot down so to speak and say enough! no games untill your homework is done or your grades ruturn to normal etc etc. Any parent that stands by and watches there childs education suffer for any reason need parenting classes or something. i have been playing video games since a very young age and i am now 26 and my school grades,social life or life in general has never suffered becuase of it and i now have two sons of my own and both of them play too and their lives never suffer because of video games either. it is up to the parent to teach their children moderation and not just in this case in many things in life!

Video gaming has also been scientifically proven to improve hand/eye coordination and many other skills and it has recently been proven that playing violent video games actually calms the players mood, so no video games are not bad they are good(in moderation) and it is ok for parents to stand by worried about their child and then the next thing they do is buy their child the next game and or console they ask for. take some responsability and parent your child!
video games rock and thats that!!!!

 
thales
Jul 21, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

'Anger'? Trust me; some of us here have seen him angry. You haven't.

More to the point, have you ever heard the old joke about the woman who called the cops on her neighbors for indecent exposure? Apparently they were just wandering around naked, corrupting the whole neighborhood. When the cops came, the woman explained that they had to come into her house to actually see the nudity. When they still had no idea what she was talking about, she told them that you could only see the frolicking neighbors from her kitchen window.

So the cops go into her kitchen, and all they can see from the window is tree branches. They're ready to leave, but the woman insists that the evil neighbors must be stopped. "Of course you can't see them now," she insisted. "You have to stand on a chair and lean to the left, around the branches, like this."

In other words, you seem to find a lot of perfectly innocent things to be deeply corrupting influences on poor, defenseless people. But maybe it's not the video games, or the masturbation, or the food, the sex, the shopping, the gambling, the alcohol, the internet, the television, the gossip, or the naked neighbors.

Maybe it's just you.

 
blackkodiak
Jul 21, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

I don't know what part of this disturbs me more, the bad statistics, the broad generalizations, or the fact that you seem utter opposed to anything that doesn't fit your idea of morally appropriate activity.

 
colussi
Jul 24, 2010
1 convinced
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The thing about video games is this : They're just another apple that has fallen from the tree of progress and technical evolution, both of which are, as we know, inevitable.
That said, we can choose to embrace them, in which case adaptation will be necessary. Or we can decide to reject them arguing that they're hazardous in this or that way.

To me, the prior option is obviously the best. There's no denying video games 'can' have extremely lousy repercussions not only on their "followers", but also on those around them. However, in all this upheaval and flurry, people seem to have forgotten that things are only as good or as harmful as they allow them to be, which means that although video games may lead to amplifying teens' tendency towards violence and crime and delinquency, the degree of this effect is a variable and depends highly on how every individual undertakes a certain game.

And now, to the benefits. And especially those of multiplayer online games since they are apparently the ones that are the most discussed. To my mind they are incredibly efficient ways of conducting a very fruitful social interaction. You might argue that one's better off going out and meeting what are commonly and rather naively referred to as "real people". But let me tell you this, as an ex-MMO adept I am fully convinced that being in touch with people from other countries, speaking different languages is a more nourishing and fulfilling experience.

To conclude, let's not forget shall we that parents also have a say in this matter. And that they can choose to monitor their children's exposure to such games. But as far as I'm concerned, overall, video games are GOOD.

 
stormwell
Jul 27, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

Even though it's true that some people become recluses due to addiction, but that's not often the case. Although I'm sure this point has been brought up before, Video Games are REALLY good for Hand-Eye Coordination. In fact, a 2003 study found that surgeons who played video games completed laparoscopic surgeries 27% faster, with 37% less errors. (1)

In fact, games have shown to do many useful things, including: Improving eyesight (2), making people nicer (3), and delaying senility (4). Heck, Tetris has been proven to reduce trauma of events happening within 6 Hours. (5)

(1) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4685909/

(2) http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=2764

(3) http://www.economist.com/node/13726738?story_id=13726738

(4) http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/08121125-strategic-video-game-improves-critical-cognitive-skills-older-adults.html

(5) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/4142908/Playing-the-video-game-Tetris-could-reduce-trauma-claim-Oxford-University.html

 
whitelily
Aug 17, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

The addictive behavior you're describing can so easily be charactorized in numerous other activities. I have, on occasion, been so immersed in a captivating book that I lost all track of time and therefore had to forfiet sleep in order to finish my studies. I'm sure the same can be said for anyone who has something they are interested in. Even children with adequate social skills (as you stress to be necessary) may find themselves spending too much time enjoying said social life and neglect their school work. Anything excessively indulged in can be detrimental. Time management skills is needed in order to create a beneficial balance in a child's life. If the child is too immature to construct such a balance then the responsibility falls upon the parents. That said, in proper moderations, RPG or other video games has no unhealthy effects.

 
vancam
Jul 23, 2010
0 convinced
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You've confused my intended sarcasm with anger. Don't worry it's common for people addicted to their own self righteous conviction to fail to fully understand opposing view points. Are you sure you thought about the possibility that I didn't take your post seriously enough to merit more than a short rebuttal tinged with mirth for the benefit of readers who tire of long drawn out diatribes?

 
vancam
Jul 23, 2010
0 convinced
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You had to ask? Bad of course. I tried to be good but, well you know me.

 
frankiej4189
Jul 24, 2010
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What else is harmful about videogames? How the violent games have clearly led to increase in violent behavior in the people who play them?...Oh that's right! There is ZERO conclusive evidence that shows violent videogames lead to violent real life behavior! How did i forget?

 
frankiej4189
Jul 24, 2010
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: shinbum Show

3, maybe 4 people? Congrats i guess

 
harvesterftw
Jul 27, 2010
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I play DooM avidly. I play MMMORPGS and FPS games. I play online, meeting new people, seeing different cultures, making friends, and being part of something great. I make friendships and see how other people react to the things I do and say. How is it bad to socialize? How is it bad to take out aggression and anger on pixels and 3d models? How is it bad to live out fantasies of being a Space Marine or Fleet commander, or Full-Time Cop? Can't do that in real life. And what about "normal people" running out to bars until the wee hours of the morning, getting drunk, causing a disturbance, or getting into fights? Video games are the scapegoat for sweaty politicians and Soccer Moms who can't deal with the fact that they aren't raising their children right. Little 5 year old Timmy shouldn't be playing Grand Theft Auto, and we all know it. Rating are there for a reason, they aren't a suggestion. Parents should look at the content and decide if their children are ready for the game. If anything, Video Games teach people some good skills and lessons. Playing a game of Counter-Strike and being elected leader will teach you about leadership and cooperation. An MMORPG will give economic skills and social interactions. RTS games and RPGS will teach strategy. FPS games will make people more aware of their surroundings and make them alert. Not to mention Hand-Eye coordination.

 
harvesterftw
Jul 27, 2010
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I play DooM avidly. I play MMMORPGS and FPS games. I play online, meeting new people, seeing different cultures, making friends, and being part of something great. I make friendships and see how other people react to the things I do and say. How is it bad to socialize? How is it bad to take out aggression and anger on pixels and 3d models? How is it bad to live out fantasies of being a Space Marine or Fleet commander, or Full-Time Cop? Can't do that in real life. And what about "normal people" running out to bars until the wee hours of the morning, getting drunk, causing a disturbance, or getting into fights? Video games are the scapegoat for sweaty politicians and Soccer Moms who can't deal with the fact that they aren't raising their children right. Little 5 year old Timmy shouldn't be playing Grand Theft Auto, and we all know it. Rating are there for a reason, they aren't a suggestion. Parents should look at the content and decide if their children are ready for the game. If anything, Video Games teach people some good skills and lessons. Playing a game of Counter-Strike and being elected leader will teach you about leadership and cooperation. An MMORPG will give economic skills and social interactions. RTS games and RPGS will teach strategy. FPS games will make people more aware of their surroundings and make them alert. Not to mention Hand-Eye coordination.

 
hauntedreality
Jul 29, 2010
0 convinced
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is it down to nature/nurture. can we forego the games industry and blame films for childrens lack of attention or bad behaviour?

NO! its stupid!

kids arent dumb...they arent mindless drones who just sit and play games and just suck it all in and mimic it all...
(check out the hypodermic needle theory for media)

this would define all kids as stupid.

instead, we should look upon ourselves as a society and parents (should you be one). We shouldnt pidgeon-hole them with ADHD or behaviour disorders...

we should say - hey kid... stop being a douche! and they will...!

i remember when i was little people on the street would tell me off if i were bad.

i also remember that if i was playing my games for too long my parents would come upstairs and force me outside.

and for violence? its really up to the parents... be a good mum and dad...look at the games ur kid is playing...check the rating on them! all gams have to have ratings on them by law! its that simple...

dont go out and buy 5 year old jack GTA4 and bioshock!

 
studentmwsc6
Dec 01, 2011
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Video games are not bad for a person's mind at all. Anyone can play a video game, have fun playing it and do their homework while getting good grades. You should just limit the amount of time you play on it, if you keep playing for too long continuesly, THAT is the way video games are harmful!

 
Dhruv Gupta
May 21, 2015
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Video games are harmful for kids who play before doing work, after work play. Keep the charger away. I am tired of video game debate they are just like chocolate, movie, televisions and stuff. Too much, and you lose time too quick, too little and its no fun.

 
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Harmful, nothing good about it


shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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Games so called RPGs (Role Playing Games) destroy children's time management skills as well as social skills. Each level they raise on their avatar, they are thirsty for higher level, unable to control themselves watching higher levels thrive in whatever they do. It is the theory of "if he can do it, I can." Too many children lock themselves in their rooms with a computer, playing the game without self control, careless of their school work, things that really matter out in the world. For instance, World of Warcraft has successfully ruined almost a third of high school students preparing for college because of its addictiveness. WoW was one of the earliest RPG's introducing the monthly (correct me if I am wrong) charge program to make it seem like very small amount of money invested into the game. Games have become like drugs that people cannot build control over. Too many parents are now worried for their children for their lack of social ability with his/her peers because of computer/video games.

 
frankiej4189
Jul 21, 2010
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Just curious Van, are you good or bad in Fable 2?

Solid post by the way

 
shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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You are saying that because there is a substitutional factor games are much tolerable and that I am wrong. My point of the argument was that games are harmful for many reasons, not that it is the only element that ruins people. You cannot emphasize an example that substitutes computer games to try to denounce my argument;;

 
shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

I enjoyed reading your opinion on gamse. But it seems like you've lost your temper as you were writing your statement. Try reading it again: it has hints of anger in it, just by my words saying that games are harmful to you. One of the signs of addiction is that when someone gets in the way of getting your addictive whatever, loss of temperance or nervousness without control happens. Are you sure you thought about what you were going to say before you typed those words? Did you intend to prove a point, or did you intend to just provoke the opponent?

 
shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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What do you mean by "I 'somehow' managed to lead a 'perfectly' normal 'successful' life"? Could you give me some details on your perspective on life?

 
shinbum
Jul 21, 2010
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You have mentioned that video games improve hand/eye coordination and many other skills. Could you name those many other skills for me? I cannot possibly imagine what kind of hand/eye coordination you can gain from pressing the keys on the console or clicking the mouse to get the headshot in your first-person-shooter games. Would that really matter in the outside world, seeing the person on the corner of your eye so that you can kill him?
It IS wrong for the parent to just buy the gaming system for the child without talking to the chlid. They are ignorant in their own mind thinking that it is just for the kid's pleasure and nothing more when it could affect him/her much more than they expect.
It seems like you've gotten out of gaming experience quite safely but do you truly feel that the 10+ years you have spent in front of the tv screen was worth while? There is nothing else you have achieved, yet do you feel the satisfaction in life? Please know that I am not trying to provoke you but challenge you; would you buy your child the new gaming system just to find that he/she spent 10+ years in front of the monitor?

 
shinbum
Jul 23, 2010
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Those things you jotted down are exactly what corrupts this generation. Yes, you're right; it may be just me but that is why this is a debate, no? I fully understand your point and that is exactly what I wanted to see. I appreciate your opinion.

 
shinbum
Jul 23, 2010
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That is exactly what I was aiming for... The reaction of the people when I throw the most ridiculous questions/statements. Read my profile; This was never about who is right or wrong, this was about you and all the other people who threw the rebuttals at me. I totally appreciate this.

 
shinbum
Jul 23, 2010
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Rebuttal to: vancam Show

If you were offended by my words, I apologize, but you see, even convincing the netizen was not the key point of this debate. The reason for me opening this debate was to see how many people were trully, willingly defend what they love. What people believe as their "pleasure" in this world seems give them comfort in many ways and I wanted to attack exactly that to see their defense mechanism. My words WERE designed to piss many people off, but not offend them in the field of debate alone. So if you were really focusing on the subject and had your pencils drawn for this debate, I apologize once again for that.

 
shinbum
Jul 23, 2010
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If you were offended by my words, I apologize, but you see, even convincing the netizen was not the key point of this debate. The reason for me opening this debate was to see how many people were trully, willingly defend what they love. What people believe as their "pleasure" in this world seems give them comfort in many ways and I wanted to attack exactly that to see their defense mechanism. My words WERE designed to piss many people off, but not offend them in the field of debate alone. So if you were really focusing on the subject and had your pencils drawn for this debate, I apologize once again for that.

 
shinbum
Jul 23, 2010
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As many people can see, it looks like the majority of the people in this generation have great passion for video games. I understand the drive for it, I understand the addictiveness of it. I thank you all for your opinion. I would be glad to read more rebuttals and/or arguments on either side to see how far we could dip on this subject or show their emotions through what they think is right. You can argue with me all day and night; either way, there is nothing I can lose but gain more knowledge on the human emotion and expression of that emotion.

 


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