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Alcohol Consumption. 18 Years Old or 21
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carter2dabone
Mar 10, 2010
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People should be able to buy alcohol at 18.


kaleb
Mar 10, 2010
3 convinced
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1) you can (theoretically) be drafted against your will at 18
2) you can be tried as an adult when 18
3) your parents are no longer legally required to house and feed you at 18
4) you are expected to participate in the legal system at 18, as a voter and as a potential jurer

either you are an adult, or you are not. it is ludicrous that society can demand so much of you, and hold something as silly as alcohol on a pedestal. a legal limit for alcohol above the legal limit for everything else is confusing, and gives it a weird emphasis that it really shouldn't have.
besides, why would you make a line that separates college students from college students when you already have a much more realistic and naturally occurring line between high school and college?

 
skylar
Mar 18, 2010
2 convinced
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21 year olds arent as mature as 35 year olds? why not make the legal drinking age 35? You gotta draw the line somwhere. If an 18 year old can fight in the war, be subjected to their heads being blown off and defend our county they sure as hell should be given the choice to drink or not.

 
carter2dabone
Mar 10, 2010
1 convinced
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I say 18 for a couple of reasons. First off, many college students are 18, and are going to drink, and become intoxicated regardless if its legal or not. Because of this, it might as well be legal for people 18 years and up to buy alcohol. They will break the law and buy alcohol either way. We cannot say that they are not mentally mature enough yet, because an 18 year old is just a mature as a 21 year old. Also, the same statement that I hear so many people say, is that if an 18 year old can fight for the United States of America in the many different armed forces, then they should be able to safely drink in the privacy of their homes.

 
carter2dabone
Mar 10, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vague Show

Once again, you've convinced me. I'll agree with most of what you say. However, the only reason I would actually say not to drop the legal age limit is this:
Right now 21 is the legal age. Around the age of 17 to 20 are the main group that illegally drink.
Yes these people are breaking the law.
If the age is dropped, then a new group of people will start illegally drinking. I'd say 15 and 16 year olds would start illegally drinking, maybe even lower. Then there will be people trying to drop the legal age down to 16, and then there really will be problems.


Rather than this, i'd say that it might as well be dropped. And like you say, it is just opinion, but I'd say that an 18 year old is mature enough, but once again, strictly opinion. And it's also true that all this will really do is cause more DUI's and Public Intox problems, but it happens every day with people above the age of 21. Maybe we should just be stricter on enforcing these problems.

 
dixieslicks
Apr 28, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: vague Show

Pick an age. If 18 is mature enough to vote, it's mature enough to drink, it's mature enough to buy a rifle and ammo. Why is an 18 year old considered a minor in some cases and not others? One age. After THIS age, you're an adult. You get all of these rights.

Lowering the drinking age would not increase incidents of alcohol abuse. Possessing alcohol is illegal. People who don't drink because it is illegal might consider drinking, but these people are typically responsible enough to not abuse alcohol. This also adds to the pool of designated drivers who might otherwise not be willing to give someone a ride home from a party because they're afraid they might get pulled over, or otherwise in trouble with the law for being in proximity to a) party or b) intoxicated minors.

Speaking from a college standpoint, the advent of pregaming is a common practice which involves getting drunk, then going out. An important aspect of pregaming is to ensure that you don't sober up while you're out dancing, which can lead to overdrinking and associated incidents in public. The status quo: get REAL drunk, then go out to a club. Post lower drinking age: go out to a club, then get drunk. I don't forsee much changing.

Obviously, if we make the drinking age 18 instead of 21, more people between the age of 18 and 21 would drink. It's like if we were to lower the voting age to sixteen, more people in between the ages of 16-18 would vote. It's typically what happens when you legalize something.

I don't think that going to a bar is 18 year old's idea of fun.

 
afrique
Jul 27, 2010
1 convinced
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You can go to the military at 18, you can drive at 18, you can smoke (in some states/countries), at 18, so why not. You want to make Alcohol consumption at 18, go ahead. Just make sure you increase the driving age to 25.

 
frankiej4189
Mar 10, 2010
0 convinced
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"I do not want to see a bunch of drunk 18 year olds at the local bar. I would, at that point, not go out"

A bunch of 21 year olds at a bar i.e. college kids would be almost exactly the same as having a bunch of 18 year olds there. There has and will always be college bars and non college bars.

 
naomikins
Mar 16, 2010
0 convinced
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alcohol consumption at 21..why? cause of the responsibility? then why can we drive at 16? surely operating such a big piece of machinery like a car would be considered more of a responsibility and more dangerous

 
flyboy1996
Nov 03, 2010
0 convinced
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18 we live in a society in which we think its to risky for teens to drink but not go to war? this is the crap that clinton pulled because he was to lazy to do anything about alchohol abuse so he raised the drinking age to look like he was doing somthing

 
thematic
Nov 12, 2010
0 convinced
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They allow you to vote.
They allow you to drive.
They allow you to go die in war.
But you cant have a drink?
Um, NO.
18 all the way, maybe even younger...

 
connordill
Apr 11, 2011
0 convinced
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if it was legal less would use it.

 
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People should be able to buy alcohol at 21.


vague
Mar 10, 2010
2 convinced
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This debate is not over my stance on the current drinking age. It is a debate over lowering the drinking age to 18. Your point is valid. However, my point is that it would be worse than it already is.

In my opinion I do not see many positive outcomes in relation to lowering the drinking age to 18.

Of course college bars exist. However, you cannot tell me that there is not a diffirence psychologicaly between a 21 year old and an 18 year old.

The research to date has demonstrated that significant reductions in automobile crash involvement follow an increase in the drinking age, Between 1970 and 1988, there were major fluctuations in minimum drinking age laws in the United States.

Most of the studies ever done on these fluctuations has shown a definate impact on alcohol related incidents when the drinking age is changed.

A bunch of 21 year olds at a college bar might look the same. However, a group of 18 year olds, in my experience, is definately diffirent.

 
vague
Mar 10, 2010
1 convinced
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I know all of the general arguments presented by supporters of a 18 year old drinking age. However, I do not think an 18 year old is as mature as a 21 year old. This is of course just my opinion.

However, lowering the drinking age will do nothing but increase incidents of alcohol abuse and probably DUI and public intox problems.

I understand that minors still drink..even though the age is 21. However, how many more would drink if we bumped the age down to 18.

I do not want to see a bunch of drunk 18 year olds at the local bar. I would, at that point, not go out.

 
vague
Mar 10, 2010
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: carter2dabone Show

Another thing to think about is the reaction caused by such a law. Dropping the drinking age to 18, most likely, would cause a sudden surge in alcohol related issues due to the sudden increase in teenagers legally drinking.

It would be something totally new and exciting for the 18 year olds that drink illegaly. Therefore, one could assume that even people drinking under the age...would probably drink much more than the would have with the laws currently in place.

Social impacts caused by sudden shifts in social policy can be very traumatic.

 
kbk
Mar 23, 2010
0 convinced
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Being a resident in Canada, I have seen and experienced eighteen-year-olds taking advantage of this, and then passing out before midnight. It is always tough to determine a generalized age group where alcohol will be exeptable, since all teenagers are different and have different goals and priorities. Therefore, 21 should be the first year anyone should be able to purchase alcohol due to the lack of maturity and common sense that the majority of 18 year olds posses. By 21, I would hope, that the general population of that age group would be mature enough already and have a different set of goals and priorities; which would hopefully transform your edgy decisions into solid, sensible ones. Also, at this age we are still new drivers and we have a whole new set of responsibilities being thrown at us. Drinking should be put off until we're older and more settled in as a young adult.

 
vague
Apr 28, 2010
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: dixieslicks Show

Pick an age. If 18 is mature enough to vote, it's mature enough to drink, it's mature enough to buy a rifle and ammo. Why is an 18 year old considered a minor in some cases and not others? One age. After THIS age, you're an adult. You get all of these rights.

-----------For starters you cannot compare the operation of a firearm to a substance that alters the way you think. As long as an 18 year old understands the safety precautions and the overall function of the weapon...he or she is just as safe as a 20 year old. However, I can also point out that the older you get..or more experienced you are with a weapon..the safer you will be. Therefore, that is a bad comparison and only seems to reinforce your opinon. --------------

Lowering the drinking age would not increase incidents of alcohol abuse. Possessing alcohol is illegal. People who don't drink because it is illegal might consider drinking, but these people are typically responsible enough to not abuse alcohol. This also adds to the pool of designated drivers who might otherwise not be willing to give someone a ride home from a party because they're afraid they might get pulled over, or otherwise in trouble with the law for being in proximity to a) party or b) intoxicated minors.

------------------You are absolutely right. People that choose not to drink because it is illegal...are considered responcible. However, seeing as the legality is what keeps them from drinking...your statement does not reinforce your point of view. The basis on witch they decide if they should drink or not..has no effect on how they will react once intoxicated. We can assume that a person's level of maturity when sober...will have some bearing on their level of responcibility while intoxicated. However, this is flawed logis as alcohol is proven to disable a person's ability to process all of the factors around him or her..that would normally keep that person safe. For example...people who get behind the wheel when drunk..are probably doing so because they are impaired and cannot make rational decisions because of that inability to process the entirety of a situation. ---------

Speaking from a college standpoint, the advent of pregaming is a common practice which involves getting drunk, then going out. An important aspect of pregaming is to ensure that you don't sober up while you're out dancing, which can lead to overdrinking and associated incidents in public. The status quo: get REAL drunk, then go out to a club. Post lower drinking age: go out to a club, then get drunk. I don't forsee much changing.

----------Well..in my experience..pre-gaming is done to prevent me from spending 100 bucks at the bar...but we do things for diffirent reasons. So you are saying that being drunk earlier would not cause you to overdrink? I don't think it is logical to assume that a person will drink less as long as he or she gets a buzz before they reach the club or bar. That sounds like something you are making up to prove your point. However, I don't know anybody that pre-games for that reason.-------



Obviously, if we make the drinking age 18 instead of 21, more people between the age of 18 and 21 would drink. It's like if we were to lower the voting age to sixteen, more people in between the ages of 16-18 would vote. It's typically what happens when you legalize something.

I don't think that going to a bar is 18 year old's idea of fun.

---------- It's not their idea of fun because it is illegal and they rarely get in..unless they have some sort of connection. However, bars run the risk of getting their liquior liscense revoked...and that my friend..is big money.

-----------------It is not about what 18 year olds already do. It is about how mature an 18 year old is in general. Your maturity level..and ability to make safe decisions is impacted when youd rink. Therefore, and 18 year old that is not full matured anyways...might have larger issues when you further impair their ability to make rational decisions.

Another thing to think about is your tolerance level at 18, and the fact that you have no idea what your limits are unless you have been drinking. Their are so many factors that influence this type of scenario. I just do not think 18 year olds need to be getting wasted at the bar. You will have plenty of time to get drunk legally after you turn 21.

 
missmoral
Apr 28, 2010
0 convinced
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It is scientifically proven that if you drink alcohol while you're 18 you don't get the brain development you need. By the age of 21 your brain is finished with most of it's development. Those 3 years make a big difference.

 


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