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Palestine V. Israel
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truth4theworld
Feb 16, 2010
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truth4theworld
Feb 16, 2010
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Palestine should not be taken over, it was originally Palestine and Happily shared

 
tiptopgolfy
Dec 17, 2011
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Rebuttal to: watchman81 Show

If Israel are the peacemakers why did they build a wall around the state of Palestine? If Israel are so peaceful then why did they keep pushing the Palestinians further and further back so that they could get more land? surely if your so peaceful you wouldn't take land? Why did Israel cut the Palestinians off from their natural mineral resources?
It seems that persecution off the Jews is just an excuse for human greed!


 
tiptopgolfy
Dec 17, 2011
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You could say that the evidence that it was happily shared is the fact that they weren't pushed back into a small space and didn't have a wall put around them.

 
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watchman81
Feb 17, 2010
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Israel has not been the aggressor in this conflict, nor is it the main obstacle to peace. While Israel has had its share of wrongdoings, it has historically been the Arabs (Palestinian or otherwise) that have perpetuated the cycle of violence. Many times Israel has tried to reach a peaceful solution only to be met with more and more violence.

The problem in this conflict is Islamic terrorism being carried out by Islamic fanatics whose desire is to destroy the Jewish state of Israel. They believe that the Jews should be eliminated and pushed into the sea and they have no other objective. They do not desire to have a peaceful Islamic state alongside Israel, they desire to have an Islamic state REPLACING Israel. Anyone who does a little digging into the history of this conflict can see that it is on the Arabs to give up violence in order to reach a peaceful solution.

 
timd
Feb 22, 2010
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Rebuttal to: truth4theworld Show

Evidence that it was "happily" shared?

 
frankiej4189
Feb 22, 2010
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-Ignoring the thousands of years of death and destruction-

 
Dirt
May 31, 2011
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Ancient history...
It was not originally Palestine.

Israel was there first.

But no nation has the "right" to survive;
They DO have a right to defend what's theirs.
If they cannot defend themselves, they are destroyed.
Israel knows this.

That is why it rolled up its sleeves and defended against countless attacks from Muslim nations.
But no nations should judge the "fairness" of this in a committee.
Israel won a war. Period.

 
Nisan Vile
Aug 20, 2013
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Do you honestly believe that they put up the wall for fun? They put up the wall because buses were blowing up every day, and if you don't know the connection you have no right to debate this issue.

 
Yoel Schwarz
Dec 25, 2014
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1: israel was indeed given to the jews from god as it is written in the Bible. From the time of Joshua till now there was always a jewish population in the land. There were a few independent jewish states in the land. The judges, the united kingdom of israel, the two kingdoms of israel and judea, the hasmoanic kingdom, the period of the second temple. But there was never any other independent state in the land. After time the romans expelled most of the jews from israel, forcing them to go in other countries. But they always desired to go back to the land and through the history you many waves of mass emigration to israel. There is an unbreakable connection.
2: after the first world war the Brits conquered the land. There was a constant demand from the Jewish population to remake the Jewish state. Nobody, no arab, asked for a palestinian state. Why? Because there is no such thing as a palestinian people. Who was a famous leader? They have old historic coins? They have an anthem? What was their territory? All these questions are unanswerable because the palestinian people is an invention.
There were indeed in the land some arabs, that's true. But they were no nation at all. These arabs were in very small numbers.
In 1948 there is the foundation of a jewish state in israel. There was a jewish majority. The arab countries didn't want a jewish state next to them so they (egypt,jordan, lebanon, syria and iraq) all attacked israel. They said to the arabs living in israel to go away to other arab countries because they want to destroy israel. Then, nobody talked about Palestinians. Finally israel won this war, and also two other wars against the arab countries. It was 1967, judea and samaria and jerusalem, the heart of israel, were under jordanian control. They litteraly occupied israeli land. In 1967 egypt, syria and jordan launched a war against israel. Israel won overwhelming. They occupied the sinai dessert and they freed judea, samaria, jerusalem, gaza (gush katif) abd the golan. Then arabs understood that they can't win israel in a direct war. So they called all the jordanians in judea and samaria and the egyptiens in gush katif Palestinians. They claimed a state for their own in whole israel. First their tactics was pure terrorism. But after time they see that it doesn't work, so they go on diplomatic warfare. Israel wants peace and is ready to give their own land to the arabs. In 2006, 9000 jews were exiled from gush katif (gaza) to form a palestinian authority. They had the choice to vote, they voted on hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organisation that wants to destroy israel.
In short israel is a true, legitimate state. The Palestinians are big lie made to destroy israel.
I hope it was clear enough, if you have more questions. I'm happy to answer them.?

 


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