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lets say God is there, and he abandonend us would anything change in the world?
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mrphilosophy
Oct 08, 2009
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jonjax71
Oct 08, 2009
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You're living in a world without god, this is what it is

 
teachme
Oct 08, 2009
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As I said in the KOTH: Who the hell knows? We can't even define what "God" is.

 
akulakhan
Oct 08, 2009
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I have seen no attacks towards christians within the time I've been a member on this website, provided that is not long; I still know my way around. All I've seen is semi-respectful debating on the conditions of a higher power. Christianity isn't the only religion with one of those. Some religions even have more than one, and are far more interesting than Christianity (like Hinduism, the Ramayana is beautifully written and puts the bible in it's place as a lesser book linguistically).

It is my belief that there is the potential for good in everyone, even without a god.

It doesn't take an angry man in the sky threatening me with promises of Hell and Damnation to make me see that I should care for others.

 
akulakhan
Oct 10, 2009
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Let me get this straight...

People
-(buy car insurance) or (have faith)
Just in case they
-(get in a wreck) or (sin and burn in Hell).

Even though
-(they have no car to crash with) or (there is no God to damn them)?

There is no logic there.

 
mrphilosophy
Oct 08, 2009
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what do you think would happen if he abandoned us? what war death famine fire disaster and hate? already present with his supposable existence. with out him the same would be.

 
apathetic
Oct 09, 2009
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It is amazing how morbid people get this time of year. Just wait till December.

 
mrphilosophy
Oct 09, 2009
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to all of those that think that we humans have proper morels that the world has love and that we live well you have not seen humanity's true face.

even with god if he is to be true the world is filled with death and violence and tortured souls that wish simply to eat for a day and live as a child. there is no caring and no sharing just keeping to your self as every one else rots and the world slowly goes into oblivion.

with out god. the same stays no? war hate and selfishness
why? because even if he is there he does a bad job at being god.
we can only count on our selves to heal humanity perhaps it is simply a mother who abandoned her child that is humanity.

look up depleted uranium children and see if you think god is helping.

 
akulakhan
Oct 09, 2009
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Okay, I will play along I guess.

So, there's a god, and therby a devil.
Take out god, and what remains is the devil.

I'm fine with that. At least we would know that the devil cares enough about his people to come visit.

And I did a little reasearch on Satan and found that in Jewish faith he is pitied for being forced into his position. In the Talmud, a rabbinistic piece of literature, two rabbis state that Satan was commanded by God to "break the barrel but spill no wine", an impossible task at best.

 
yoli
Oct 09, 2009
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Everything is "god" try to minus god from that and it is like trying to erase infinity.

 
yoli
Oct 09, 2009
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That which seperates you from god is the devil. The only thing seperating yourself from god is You. That is why we might as well be living in hell right now, at least until you start believing in something else.

 
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Oct 08, 2009
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Yes things would change, what I see on this site is a bunch of negative speaking people against Christians and those who believe in God. But why? It's those people who promote peace, it's those people who promote charity, its those people who are willing to help a neighbor. Without God there would be no morals. Morals are NOT natural to human nature. Helping someone to get ahead is not "built" into our genetics and yet we do it? Some call it luck, others call it chance, well I call it a living God because that is what it is.

 
akulakhan
Oct 08, 2009
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This is my first autumn on this website, so I am a little surprised at how the existentalists in everyone emerge this time of year. And your right, we can't build ideas and theories on something we haven't even collectively solidified yet.

 
thevenerablerob
Oct 09, 2009
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There have been several, but in general people are respectful, I agree.

But for this debate, let us also consider that if God exists, so does the Devil. Now suppose that all is natural to us and the only thing God is for is to keep back the Devil and to bless us periodically. With no god to keep back the Devil, guess who gets free reign over society?

Imagine what Hell is like (or would be like) and make the world slightly better than that, but not much. It would be a time of worldwide pain and suffering. There would be no chance for community as we have today as it would soon become destroyed. We would suffer, be humiliated and destroyed. Sort of like in the Terminator series, if the evil side had been successful. Satan would build up followers and society run riot. Think violence is bad, now? Imagine it a thousand times worse.

 
yoli
Oct 09, 2009
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We just haven't realized that god is not what we think.
You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
If you are to find god, it will be because you seek with all your heart, and will only accept truth, and i know most of you are tired of all the lies, so my only advice is to seek within, and trust yourself to know what is truth and what is not. To me god is the universe and much more than words can explain. The universe will continue to take care of itself.

 
yoli
Oct 09, 2009
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Believe, and anything is possible. If we are to heal humanity it starts within yourself. Believe what you want but You are god, I am god, we are One. God is everything, which is more than words can explain.

 

Oct 10, 2009
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the way I see it, do you know youre going to get in a wreck? Nope, so you buy insurance "just in case." Do you know if there is a God? No, but I'd rather have the insurance. People attack the belief in God so much calling Christians or any other form of believer ignorant, but really? If there is no God, which I know there is, but let us say there is none. Then nothing happens to me. I still led a satisfactory life filled with a purpose which is more then half of the world can say. If there is a God, joyous, cause I know I led a life to please Him. Common sense, one of us is right. They way I see, I'm on the winning end both ways ;0. Now can this site please get to more I don't know worthwhile debates. I am growing sick of all the does God exist, is He really there? etc. Let's talk about something relevant to today.

 


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