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School Uniforms?
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verya
Apr 08, 2009
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Schools should require uniforms.


tricitymerchants11
Apr 08, 2009
2 convinced
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I think school uniforms is a great idea and let me elaborate.

When I was in high school back in the mid 90's (if that matters), students were always picked on by what clothes they wore. My close friend was picked on and not only that, I felt bad for the kid because he wore the same 2 or 3 t-shirts every day. His family was poor. Are you guys going to say with a straight face "So what, that's their problem?" Don't be so hearltess. What kind of life is that for a high school student to deal with? What are high schoolers there for? AN EDUCATION. Not to socialize and make a contest out of everything. Verya and Jonjax mention the individuality of being able to wear what they want. That's great, are they going to a Halloween costume party? Is it a fashion show? Modeling agency? Oh, right, it's school. You go there to learn and to make new friends. Not to be judged.

I used to wear baseball shirts and jerseys all the time. Did I need to make a statement? I wore what I did on the weekends to school because I was allowed to. That's great that I was an individual, but was my purpose to show others that I love baseball? Did I wear the shirts for conversation starters? It's really lame.

Clearly in my opinion if uniforms were required, friends would be made without the predjudice that fills the minds of youngsters.

Mommy and daddy wouldn't have to show off their money by having their daughter flaunt expensive things. She wouldn't have to look down upon others who are not so fortunate.

I understand that high school shouldn't be a popularity contest. But it is. And a safe way to avoid that and to make people EARN their respect by speaking rather than what they're wearing, is by issuing uniforms.

Everyone would look so nice and things can be done the way they should be without all the hatred among one another.




 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 11, 2009
1 convinced
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1) Males between the ages of say 13-20 are greatly distracted by girls wearing short skirts, tight pants, low cut tops, see through shirts, and so on and on. I can tell you it's definitely something that once you start thinking about at that age usually because of something a girl was wearing that it greatly impedes the ability to focus for a long time afters.
There aren't moral instructors around to teach guys why that is or is not a good thing, but the ultimate result is loss of focus on curriculum.

2) Then you have the poverty issue. Some students don't have the money to afford nice clothes. By this being on display constantly it reinforces the "fact" (not really but that's their perception) that they are inferior or it separates people by group. Cliques form amongst who can wear the most popular designer type wear and who cannot, students are mistreated because they can't afford other items. I know cause I witnessed it happening. Those are the kinds of things where feelings get hurt. High School students already have enough trouble keeping themselves in check why add to the growing list of reasons to compare oneself to others.

3) Counter argument: It represses individuality.

4) response: actually it negates the ability to take something superficial like clothing and use it as the way to express your differences. Students will have to develop personality traits and leadership skills that separate themselves from the other students. This will force them to develop interpersonal skills instead of using the amount of money they spend on clothes give them an automatic leg up or down via perception. Students will instead need to differentiate based on ability and personality. This is better for long term personal development than initiating a dependency on name brands or styles for their identity.
Identity comes from within. It is not necessary to wear it on one's sleeve so people know by what you wear.

5) different clothes with sayings on them can be a distraction and potentially offensive to other students. Any incidents of this nature happening just one time take away from the purpose of high school. To educate. If anything draws a students attention away from that then it is undermining the education. Should students be offended? That's not important at the time. It happens whether they should or should not be and the end result is losing focus on what matters...learning.

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 11, 2009
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: peta Show

From the sounds of it. You are writing this argument while still in high school. That is not an attack, it's a statement of apparent truth provided by the use of "our own sense of fashion" etc. That is indicative of a bias. Think of a 5 yr old holding a debate with his mother about whether or not he should get the lollipop. Does the 5 year old comprehend the full ramifications of what having the thing he wants will effect? Unlikely. The 5 year old only sees what it wants and will demand and argue for it because of his limited perspective and bias. Should we take the 5 year old's words seriously? No. He's 5. We value his opinion and thank him for it, but ultimately it cannot be a deciding factor. Once you move on from high school and enter your mid twenties you will be able to look back and see the argument more clearly.

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 11, 2009
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: verya Show

"Everyone should have the freedom to express themselves"

Really? So who decides what is offensive and what is not? One person might claim that the N word isn't offensive and they are only trying to use it to get people thinking. Another might be offended by it for obvious reasons. Someone else might wear a band shirt, and the band sings about bestiality. That student might be offended because they were traumatized by a bad experience as a youth. Someone else might have a religious t-shirt on, and an atheist might get offended by it.
Does everyone who gets offended speak up? No. Some students remain silent as they do not like confrontation...instead they just mentally check out.

Uniforms is a very easy way to eliminate all of this, in exchange you get the cost of uniforms. That is a small price to pay for more focused learning. Going by science scores of graduating seniors in the United States they finish 3rd to last compared to the rest of the world. Maybe less focus on individuality and more focus on an education. When the students start to achieve something perhaps then freedoms can be restored. Freedoms carry responsibilities and it's clear that the American high school student is incapable of handling theirs at this juncture.

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 12, 2009
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

While it's true that it continues all the way through life, the decision making and ability to focus are only matured after the Myelin sheath completely forms. This is why teenagers are also more volatile in their reactions to things. The Myelin sheath helps to ensure proper transmission of electrical currents that control response to a given situation. However it does not fully develop until one is 20 years of age...prior to that point a person will have literally have a handicap against their judgments and ability to control themselves emotionally. (Gerald Schroeder, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics, The Hidden Face of God)

The purpose of school is not to prepare oneself for behavioral response. That is to be implemented at the home. The purpose of school is education so that one has been given the opportunity to make something of themselves.

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 12, 2009
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: littleminx Show

This is not so much a rebuttal as a lol. This made me laugh, and wish I could see pictures lol.

 
lsdtalejandro
Apr 12, 2009
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: verya Show

We conseed to the fact that people have the right of self expression but you have to remember that:
Casual clothes is just a 1 small way of showing self expression and it does not even do it well because mostly all you will see his how rich the person is by showing off his brand named designs

 
lsdtalejandro
Apr 12, 2009
0 convinced
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School uniforms help the students behavior.
because when ever they go after school to malls and such most students dont bother switching into casual clothes so what ever they do carries the name of the school meaning if they are seen shoplifting or smoking people can easily see that they are from the specified school so the school now takes action and makes sure the students do not do this, so it helps the school disipline the students

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 13, 2009
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: chelseylou Show

This argument has already been posed and responded to. Thank you for your personal story about your school. This is however not a different argument than one already posed, and actually already answered. Please read before posting, and if in disagreement to the answer then respond in rebuttal to it.

 
undeniabledilemma
Apr 14, 2009
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Rebuttal to: chelseylou Show

Np.
Chance given.
Now you know.

 
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Schools should not require uniforms.


verya
Apr 08, 2009
1 convinced
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Everyone is special because of their individuality. Everyone has different traits that make them distinguishable from everyone else.

When school uniforms come into play, part of that is taken away. Everyone should have a freedom to express themselves! If someone is doing so in a way that is offensive to others (such as a shirt with the terrible N-word on it) that person can be dealt with. But there is no reason to punish everyone... uniforms are not the answer.

We are not all the same, and no one should try to make use such.

 
jonjax71
Apr 08, 2009
1 convinced
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Uniforms discourage individuality, uniforms are okay for team sports, lodges, clubs and military but IMO have no place in schools. I am aware that many parochial schools like catholic schools wear unis but I am against it. Some private schools also require uniformity but my wife who has been a teacher at the same private school for almost 30 years has seen the improvement in students' attitude and performance when her school eliminated unis about 20 years ago and she used to be in favor of uniforms due to the status symbols of clothes among youth-especially females.

In certain schools uniforms are required due to gang activity but clothes doesn't make the wannabee gang banger in school and it doesn't curtail gang problems

 
andre2552
Apr 09, 2009
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: tricitymerchants11 Show

In addition to what jonjax said, school uniforms are also a waste of money. At my school, and here everyone does wear uniforms, these uniforms are pretty damned expensive. And the school is paying thousands for these to be manufactured and even for and employee to sell them! They could have at least bought us new language textbooks (despite my dislike of them) instead of the ones we have from 1991!

 
peta
Apr 10, 2009
1 convinced
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School uniforms also cost the students too much money. In economical times like we are experiencing now, people do not want to spend their money on ugly school uniforms. If you are nervous about people wearing vulgar clothing, use a dress code. Using our own sense of fashion and style makes us individuals. Vote NO!

 
jonjax71
Apr 11, 2009
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: undeniabledilemma Show

Males between 13 to 20 are distracted by female's attire? That continues all through life and it's good training to get used to it in school, great preparation for the real world.

 
littleminx
Apr 12, 2009
0 convinced
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Im only on this side because I find uniforms to be way too SEXY!

All i can say is that wearing uniforms can definitely work against the school....if their main incentive is to be more conservative.

LOL, i went to a school where i had to wear a school girl uniform...and I'm not trying to be cocky....BUT i looked really cute in it....

Hum....Now i would only be able to wear it on Halloween.



 
chelseylou
Apr 13, 2009
0 convinced
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i disagree with school uniforms because in my school there are posters up everywhere saying "be unique" but how can we be unique when we are all wearing the same , also therfe is a issue with comfort because school clothes are not comftorble

 
chelseylou
Apr 14, 2009
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: undeniabledilemma Show

well sorry..but im new ,give me a chance !

 
pinky23
Apr 24, 2009
0 convinced
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uniforms create uniformity

 


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