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Could global warming realy just be a scam, and if so, why?
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kurthectic
Mar 23, 2009
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unlabled00
Mar 24, 2009
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Look at the Earth's temperatures throughout its existence and you will see that the "alarmingly unprecedented" temperature increases we are seeing are NOT out of the ordinary. Look back and you will see temperature increases and temperature peaks that are faster and higher than the ones we are currently facing... and look at the cycle for Ice Ages and you'll see we're closer to a new one than we are to increased warming periods.

 
kurthectic
Mar 24, 2009
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I can understand Global warming being a hoax. But why, and who would benefit from it, other that Al Gores undeserved sense of accomplishment being hurt, why would someone propagate so much fear?

 
wicked
Mar 23, 2009
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The fact the world is getting warmer is virtually undisputed. However there is NO evidence man is causing this. We are getting out of a recent ice age for crying out loud, the Earth's climate is not static, it changed constantly throughout its history. This thinking is the same kind of twisted thinking that says humans for some reason MUST act to preserve all current species of animals (nevermind that extinction is a natural process and 99% of all species that ever lived are extinct, most of them long before Homo Sapiens evolved).

Global Warming is the result of human-centrism. Hey we're so awesome we MUST be the cause of this huge temperature shift!

 
kurthectic
Mar 23, 2009
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It seems every nation in the UN has jumped on the global warming bandwagon. And it would only make sense, if something is threatening the existence of life on planet earth then the issue must certainly be addressed. However temperatures have been decreasing, is it possible that the infant science of climatology could be wrong.


 
frankiej4189
Mar 24, 2009
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Its global climate change technically. Global Warming is no longer accurate.

 
frankiej4189
Mar 24, 2009
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Dont let it happen again. Al Gore will come to your house and fart in your face next time.

 
kurthectic
Mar 24, 2009
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This is exactly my point. As soon as the globe starts getting cooler, and this "indisputable Evidence" starts being disputable, the name changes from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".

Never before has a science (I use that term very loosely. climatology is as much a science as astrology) been so politically driven. I see global warming as no more than a reason for the government to say "you need us".

 
kurthectic
Mar 24, 2009
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No astrology. the study of constellations.

Astronomy is an actual science.

 
kurthectic
Mar 24, 2009
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To clarify any confusion, Any thing ending in -ology is considered theory.

 
teachme
Mar 26, 2009
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We don't need to predict what the weather will be like 100 years from now, to know that there is a rapid climate change occurring on the planet.

The polar caps are melting at an alarming rate...threatening the survival of species, like the polar bear. The temperature of the oceans has increased...killing coral reefs, and adversely effecting the plant and animal communities which surround and feed on them. These are just two examples, out of many.

How many more plant and animal species have to die before the 'theory' can be proven?!

 
kurthectic
Mar 26, 2009
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I am so tired of people who see some "save the animals" add and want the government to help. The last polar bear add I saw was asking for 50 a month. That sounds like a scam to me.

 
thethinker
Mar 26, 2009
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Because there has been more regulation?

 
kurthectic
Mar 26, 2009
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You are correct there is no proof we are coming out of an ice age, because no one is arguing we are coming out of an ice age. The argument is that we in the middle of a warm period. No one can predict what will happen to the climate in the future, those who think they can have a serious messiah complex which is only being fed by fear.

 
frdm
Mar 27, 2009
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yes started by the watermelons.

 
teachme
Jun 01, 2009
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My response is an emphatic "YES....and YES!!!"

 
pgandal
Mar 23, 2011
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The ice they're concerned about is above sea level.

 
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cheyenne99
Mar 24, 2009
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No . Look at what we've done to one of the only places with oxygen ( sighs ) . We are the ones that chop down the trees . We are the ones that created things that make thick layers of smoke ! Our earth is getting weaker and weaker . I do hope earth hour helps the earth slightly .




 
unlabled00
Mar 24, 2009
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Presumably after his rant about Manbearpig and its dangers.

 
unlabled00
Mar 24, 2009
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You mean astronomy right :P

 
vancam
Mar 24, 2009
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My understanding is that global warming is occuring. However, the causes remain disputed.

 
jonjax71
Mar 24, 2009
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Global warming or save the Earth is overhyped, granted as another poster mentioned the planet is warming and mankind is polluting the atmosphere though industrialization, however there's no reason to be concerned with the planet, our globe has been through far worse changes over its history and has surived, the planet will be here long after mankind has become extinct on it. I don't worry about saving the planet. It's mankind that needs to concern itself with surviving on this planet in the future-the Earth will be fine no matter what

 
vancam
Mar 24, 2009
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Gotcha, sorry I don't have my chic jargon directory with me today.

 
wicked
Mar 24, 2009
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Global Warming is likely not a hoax, it's just media hype over nothing.

 
frankiej4189
Mar 24, 2009
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-ology- means "the study of".

Bi-ology: The study of life
Psychology: The study of the mind
Sociology: The study of socialization
Physiology: the study of how the human body works

..etc.

 
kurthectic
Mar 24, 2009
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My apologies, Thank you for the correction.

The point i was trying to make is that climatology is based on theories, so far nothing has been proven about global warning/climate change. It is hard to predict the weather on a day to day basis(this is especially true if you live on the equator), we have no way of telling what the weather will be like in 100 years.


 
unlabled00
Mar 25, 2009
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I'm in an astronomy course and I still manage to confuse the two terms x_x yolks on my face, I apologize :P

 
teachme
Mar 26, 2009
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Well then, everything must be "theory." My understanding of the etymology of the suffix "-ology," is that it comes from the Greek word "logos," meaning the "study of."

Is anything in life stagnant? Isn't there (and won't there be) an ongoing study of all that exists...all that exists, being 'ongoing'?

 
kurthectic
Mar 26, 2009
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Tell me if the polar bears are going extinct why has the population increased from 5,000 in 1950 to 25,000 in 2008.

 
thethinker
Mar 26, 2009
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The proof that we "are coming out of a recent ice age" is even scarcer. Not only that, it's worse a theory because it doesn't account for the heat-trapping property of CO2 and the increase in rate of human carbon extraction.

 
thethinker
Mar 26, 2009
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Farther mass extinction is an unnatural ecological crisis. Even if we don't do it for the trees, the birds, and the tigers, we need to do it so that humans can live on.

 
kurthectic
Mar 26, 2009
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No, since 1950 The US purchased Alaska, which was purchased for off shore drilling. It wasn't until 1973 the offshore drilling ban was put in to place by Nixon, that accounts for 23 years of no regulation since 1950. In 2005 the Ban was lifted by Bush. In 2007 There was a baby boom in polar bear population, Just after Al gore famous movie came out. The polar bear scare is just one of many ploys to promote global warming. Excuse me "climate change".

 
kurthectic
Mar 26, 2009
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Alaska joined the union in 1959 to be exact.


 
amonite
May 27, 2009
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I think this question more implies 'is man at fault' - although, 'is the planet actually warming up significantly?' is a good question too. (~.08 degrees C a decade, climatologist John Christy based of radiosones, is one estimate - and it's likely to change with the climate)

And often, the public only gets half the data. (Like one year, when scary pictures were shown of the artic caps melting and endangered animals, when the antartic caps were had grown larger than they had been in years!!!)

The warming we experienced back in 1998, for instance, is nothing significant on a large scale. (The medieval warm period, peaking around 1300 I think, was over twice as warm for instance). And we have cooled down a lot since then.

Also, even if global temperatures rise or fall, our planet is systematic. (For instance, parts and layers of our oceans are warming, other layers and parts are cooling.) The artic is (I believe) warming as it did in the late 1930's and in the 1970s. Greenland is cooling (rather rapidly too).

Antarctica, however, is cooling. Now, it's not got as much ice as it had 50 years ago, as the warming period in 1979 took a bit, which is why the krill population (and by extension, the whale population) got hit, and why temperatures are higher than they were, but it's cooling (slowly).

So global warming yes, and global cooling, yes: But I believe the question was referring to the 'are we at fault, and should we try to stop it' kind.



 
ryank121
Mar 23, 2011
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I dont think its a scam at all. But a lot of the facts are over exaggerated for instance sea levels will on rise by maybe a few feet at the most this is due the principle that ice occupies the same mass as water. An example is when you put ice into a cup of water and fill it to the brim then allow the ice to melt, the cup doesn't overflow it remains the same. Also there will be temperatures rising and falling in different regions not just one global temperature drop or rise.

 


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