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Is religious dogma more important to the pope than the lives of Catholics?
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Pope's condom stance sparks row
Several EU states have criticised Pope Benedict for saying that the use of condoms could endanger public health and increase the problem of HIV/Aids.

The Pope argued that distribution of condoms aggravated the problem, rather than helping to...
vancam
Mar 19, 2009
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thales
Mar 19, 2009
6 convinced
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Yes...but isn't that kind of a part of his job description?

He's the spiritual leader of Catholics, not minister to any old random people who live their lives however they want. His responsibility is only to the people who buy into the dogma, so what else is he supposed to say?

 
andre2552
Mar 19, 2009
0 convinced
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Probably, though I'd never thought I'd hear anyone say that in my lifetime.

 
jonjax71
Mar 19, 2009
0 convinced
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Frankie will not like the results of this deabte that will end with more yes votes than no but the facts are the facts

The popes owe their jobs to the dogma of the vatican, they know that the dogma, the prinicpals of the faith is more important, they have to ensure the faith lives on in perpetuity-that's vital and more important, they have to protect the income of the vatican, all religions are more concerned with their own survival than that of their flock

Roman catholics have centuries of going against sex, for themselves and for their followers causing the perversions they are known for, it is not natural, they are going against what "god created" and what mankind has always pursued

 
denverdannydee
Mar 19, 2009
0 convinced
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He don't speak for all Christians, the Pope only has authority to talk to his Catholics because he can't even talk for the other Catholics from Greece and the Eastern orthodoxy

He needs to go low key, he should be issuing poicy internally, send e-mails to the different regions,to the bishops, let them send notices to the parishes HQ who can then send info on doctrine and dogma to each priest who can preach ti it to the members of each church, that way no one else will know and they won't have to criticise the Pope, keep it within Catholic circles, its for them anyway because all other christians like me could care less what the catholics believe in, that is their business and their pope

 
vancam
May 20, 2009
0 convinced
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Not to mention the rest of the Catholic instituion...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8059826.stm

 
thepurplemoose
May 11, 2010
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Yeah, I'd think so. While it is kind of his job to encourage religious devout-ness, I think that the whole Catholic church needs to be a bit more accepting. Of course, I might just have a problem with the Catholic church in general, what with the preaching about helping people and then keeping millions of dollars worth of art and artifacts to themselves instead of selling them to buy food or shelter or other various basic needs for people all over the world who might need them. They tend to be very hypocritical. But anyway, back to the point. I think that telling his followers that they can't use condoms, they just have to either keep having kids or never have sex. Frankly, those options suck. Anyway, hasn't anyone here seen Monty Python and the Meaning of Life? They make fun of it, but they've got a point. (The point being, in my opinion, 'those poor kids!')

 
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frankiej4189
Mar 19, 2009
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

Well i'd hope that there's more Yes votes in this debate because i'm in full agreement with Thales (hence the convince i gave her). The Pope is supposed to be the leader of the Catholic Faith, as leader, i would hope that he finds his own words to be very important.

 
thoughtcriminal
May 20, 2009
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It's not about dogma, it's about money and power. It's not beneficial for Catholics to have more children than they can afford, but it's good for the Church because it means more members, more donations. Likewise, being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy or to remain married to an abusive spouse isn't good for Catholics, but it's good the Church.

 


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