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Should the Gitmo really be closed down?
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provolone
Feb 16, 2009
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thoughtprocess
Feb 17, 2009
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I don't know if it's true Frankie, but I heard they were going to ship quite a few to Albania. LOL. This country really needs a good public relations campaign. My stance is that it is our foreign policy that is exacerbating terrorism. Until we fundamentally alter our stance on the Middle East we are in grave danger.

Torture, Guantanamo Bay, secret prisons or bombing whichever country we feel like bombing will never work. Doing something like closing down Guantanamo and returning it to it's rightful owners would go along way in improving our image. Also we should end that STUPID embargo on Cuba as well.

The world views this country as an imperialist, bullying, preemptive war starting, democracy undermining leviathan. But there are still many, many people, even within the Muslim world, that respect us for our domestic freedoms.

Guantanamo provides us with no protection ultimately. This government is meddlesome. Until it stops acting in such a manner no amount of Guantanamo's will keep us safe.

 
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frankiej4189
Feb 16, 2009
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I just wish my President would have specified where the 200 ish prisoners were going to go instead of Guantanomo Bay. If he had, pending where they would go, i would be more inclined to agree.

But with the waterboarding incidents that a lot of people call torture and the whole "Its Cuba's property not ours!" business alone, i think the base should stay open.

But then, what do I know? I'm only 19 and i've never been to Guantanomo so i don't know the exact happenigns of the place. I've never been in the Armed Forces or personally delt with the terroists so this opinion of mine isn't based off of much.

 
frankiej4189
Feb 17, 2009
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Even if i agreed with all of that...WHERE ARE YOU PUTTING THE PRISONERS? If closing down Guantanomo is a mean to an end, thats fine. But until there is a proper explanation of the consequences of this action out on the table, i cannot agree with it. I don't understand how anyone can.

 
thoughtprocess
Feb 17, 2009
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Well I guess you have to try them in the courts. This is a unique "war". This "war on terror" is an open ended war. Normally I guess you would negotiate return of POW's after a conflict ended but if we don't grant these people Habeas Corpus they will be imprisoned forever. And that means imprisoning God knows how many innocent people along with the ones who are actually trying to attack us.

Like I said Frankie. I am pretty sure they will be shipping them all over the world. Like Albania or Egypt or to other countries. I don't know what the result of that would be. I think it would be smarter to bring them to trial on the mainland or work with some international body to help prosecute. They have to be sorted out some how. Otherwise someday terrorists might go free and the innocents will be the ones that suffered all along.

 
frankiej4189
Feb 18, 2009
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So how will dumping terrorists onto the labs of the Albanian and Egyptian people improve our global image? Seems like a bad P.R. move to me.

I'm sorry, i don't have enough faith in the US Judicial System, even without the intervention of the Radical Left, to subject these monsters to our court rooms. It all seems like a very long and very dragged out process that wont give us the results we want.

 


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