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School Uniforms: Should they be banned?
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123454321
Jan 17, 2009
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Yes, they should be banned


123454321
Jan 17, 2009
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The reasons why uniforms should be banned:

1)Students will waste double the money on cloths, the uniforms and the personal. Students will obviously buy the cloths they want, (i don't think they would want tot use thier uniform to the mall on a weekend).
2)They go through the day wearing an itchy, uncofortable uniform. They spend most of their time at school shouldn't they wear something comfortable?.
3)There are alot of huge families with little money, where will they get the money to pay for all of the expences, school isn't paying for them.
4)If there is a serious accident in school how can they tell who the student was if they are all wearing the same thing.
5)When winter season comes they can't wear sweatpant's or turtle necks, that means they have to go to school with freezing temperatures.
6)Students will tend to be absent more because they are being forced to wear what they hate.
7)They should stop worrying about what they wear and they should pay attention to stop drugs from getting in school and they should focus on the boyfriends and girlfriends!!!
8)There will be a higher chance of protests and students on strike.
9) students will have to worry on keeping their cloths nice and clean because a stain will look really bad.
10)school will bore the student because they can only see one type of color and they will want to fall asleep.

These are some reasons why uniforms are bad, this is coming from a current student. who will know more about school.

 
lifeispinkislife
Feb 18, 2010
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As a student i have never had to wear any sort of uniform in my life. The first time i put on that uniform i was outraged that for the next four years of highschool i would be forced to wear that dreadful outfit. It is the most uncomfortable thing i have evr had to wear. It itches, does not stretch, fades quickly and my polo collar is destroyed. The quality is cheap and the clothees themselves are COMPLETELY over priced. I then begin to think what is the point of this uniform? why wouldnt a dress code work just as effectively? why must the whole school suffer with unoriginality and stolen identities? And when i get a job in life i will also have to wear a uniform so why must i start wearing one so young? what is the true purpose? we have the odd civies day where students are free to dress as they wish (this is a right btw) and the school loomks great. Theren are ppl in all sorts of colours and it gives the school LIFE. If the purposew is to nit single out the poorer kids who cant afford nice clothes, then isn't civies just promoting that. If a student has 1 day a month to dress the way they want wouldn't they wear their most expensive clothes? So if now everyone knows who has money and who doesn't then what ios the p[oint of uniforms anymore????? I dont understand them. Plus ppl will alwasy compete with each other on who is wearing what. Even with uniforms ppl r still competeing on shoes and jackets. It is just part of human nature.Everyone wants to be the best and have the best. School boards have to get used to it. im sure that none of them r wearing cheap suits to meetings becasue they to want to look and dress their best. Uniforms are a complete waist of money and this is not going to be the end of my debating to eliminate them. please leme no if you agree with me, and put urself in my position. Who the hell gave these ppl the right to tell me what i have to wear.

 
lifeispinkislife
Feb 18, 2010
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

how is the measure extreme if you are completely against it? If everyone was like that the world would still be as unjust as it was 100 years ago.


 
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No, they should not be banned


chikcj
Aug 30, 2011
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Rebuttal to: 123454321 Show

Rebuttal of your points.

1) They will have less need to buy personal clothes, as they are already wearing uniforms to school. Thus, they will have to spend less on personal clothes. Yes, they will buy the clothes that they want, but they do not need to buy as many as before.

2) You are assuming that all uniforms are itchy and uncomfortable. You are also assuming that all personal clothes are not itchy nor uncomfortable. The uniform that I use is completely fine, and in fact quite a few of my personal clothes are uncomfortable, because they sacrifice looks for comfort.

3) Because they are uniforms, uniforms can be bought for one or two children of the family and passed down to the younger ones. This will actually save money, if the uniforms are in reasonable condition. Personal clothes are harder to pass down, as they are a matter of personal taste.

4) How about looking for the blood, or looking at the student's face. Your point is ridiculous.

5) For countries like Japan, there is a separate winter and summer uniform, which would cost about the same as personal winter or summer wear.

6) No one in my school skips school because of the uniform. Let me repeat: absolutely no one. After about a year, the culture of uniforms will be there, and nobody will skip just for the uniform.

7) It will be harder to get drugs in school uniform. Students will have to take the school pride into consideration while wearing the uniform. Furthermore, if the students are seen engaging in illicit activities, it will be easier to identify them by the uniform, and punishment can be dealt to the offender.

8) Invalid. See my rebuttal of 6).

9) This applies to personal clothes as well. Invalid.

10) Your statement is invalid due to the fallacy of oversimplification. Firstly, uniforms need not be a single colour. Secondly you assume that uniforms are the only thing that the student can see, and the drab colours will make the student sleepy. If you can prove that students pay more attention to what other students are wearing than they are to the lesson, or if you can prove that students feel sleepy because their classmates are all wearing the same thing AMIDST a vibrantly coloured classroom, then I concede the point to you. If not, then your point is invalid.

This is a rebuttal coming from a current student as well.

Next onto my substantiative.

1) Uniforms will encourage discipline outside school. This is because students know that they can be identified easily outside school due to their uniform, especially if they are in a group.

2) Uniforms encourage equality within school. If uniforms (including uniform shoes and jackets) are not implemented, rich people will wear different, expensive clothes every day while less well-to-do children may wear the same clothes every day. This makes differences within students extremely clear, encouraging discrimination. Uniforms will ensure that at least this aspect of equality is achieved. People who try to modify the uniform can be punished in the same way as people who do not wear the uniform.

3) Uniforms are convenient. Students do not have to contemplate and spend valuable time deciding what to wear. The uniforms will also be safe, without any features such as trailing sleeves/skirts/hoods which may catch onto dangerous equipment.

4) Uniforms are cheaper overall. Students who wear less that 5 different sets of clothing to school for the entire 12 years tend to seem poor. A number closer to 15 would be more reasonable. However, 5 sets - no, 3 sets of uniform for that same student will be quite sufficient, as the student does not have to change clothes every day.

All criticism is appreciated. However, "convinced" would be appreciated more. Thanks.

 
unlabled00
Jan 17, 2009
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Kind of a weird topic but to each his/her own :P

Uniforms are usually instigated by private educational institutions... they can enforce any policies they want so long as those they are hired by (parents) don't find them useless to the point of avoiding them.

 
jonjax71
Jan 18, 2009
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My wife has been a grammar/elementary school teacher for various grades, 4th 5th and mostly 6th for 29 years, after 10 years in the public sector she has been at the same private school for the past 19 years, next year will be her last and then she'll retire. I say all of this to qualify her viewpoint which come from actual experience.

She is against uniforms in private or public schools, some public schools mandate uniforms to avid gang colors and symbols in attire-but it doesn't work. Private or public schools with uniforms tend to break down individualism like the military and isolates the stuidents from reality where everyone dressed differently even if their is a pecking order in what they are wearing, that;s real life and it better prepares the student,.

However not being in favor of a uniform policy doesn't imply they should be banned as that's is an extreme measure

 
danger93
Oct 26, 2011
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They should not be banned because of religious rights and stuff. For example:

Muslim girls are not allowed to show their legs becuz it attracts men/boys and Muslims boys are not allowed to see girls legs

 
danger93
Oct 26, 2011
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Rebuttal to: 123454321 Show

Well ok my rebuttal is:

You say that it causes more absences and it is uncomfortable and itchy but for 12 years in my school there has been no absences or any complains about uniform. I have asked my classmates how their uniform is and they say it is fine. Also can't you find a uniform that is comfortable to you. It is that simple.

Also you said that when someone causes trouble no one can know who did it BUT you're wrong because aren't most people's faces different and shoes. How bout glasses if some people wear. How bout how tall or short they are. How bout what type of belts or shoes they where. It is simple to find those people. (including skin colors)

I don't think they should focus on girlfriends or boyfriends because your really need MORE focus on lessons and tests. If you focus more on gf's and bf's, you might even fail on tests. Focus on bf's or gf's once you have studied and did you homework AND over the weekends. Call them whatever you want but only if you studied and did your homework. You should be ashamed of yourself how many rebuttals I got.

You said that school will bore the student because they can only see one type of color and they will want to fall asleep but in middle school, you gotta be active and walk to classrooms. True that it might bore the people cuz they hate school not cuz of colors. There isn't just one color in a school. Your nonsense. Lets say your uniform color is maroon, white and blue. You wouldn't only see those colors because the skies blue (LOL) the lockers may have a different colours and your book and how bout pictures in your books right? This is just some logic you need to have.

You say that in winter season, students can't wear jackets etc. but you can wear jackets before you enter classroom, during snack or lunch, and after school. Your nonsense about not wearing a jacket during school. Some teachers may want you to wear jackets becuz it may be cold. Some teachers don't care what you wear for outerwear since it is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry cold. This is some logic too. your nonsense as i can see.

True that there are a lot of families that are poor and can only pay for schools but they may have personal pants that are matching. Shirts well im busted. But still only one??? look at all above. you should be ashamed of yourself now.

--John

 


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