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If the Christian God is the only true God, what is his message to mankind?
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helpme
Dec 29, 2008
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We are all sinners in need of the salvation that only He can provide in Jesus Christ.


teachme
Dec 29, 2008
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Funny...I think it's a combination of the first and second choices, for me. "Send money, because we are all sinners...yada yada."

I was brought up a Catholic, and the Christian God (religion and 'church') just seemed to have too many inconsistencies...too many 'issues,' if you will, and shortcomings...for my taste, and budding belief system.

As a young woman, especially, it felt repressive. I felt like a second class citizen. It was just too bogus, too 'unreal' for me...had to cut my losses, and set myself free.

 
idiminish
Dec 30, 2008
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

The fact that there are myriads of sects calling themselves Christian with different messages doesn't mean that there isn't a Christian God who has a message. Lack of consensus just means some have missed or misinterpreted the message.

If we considered the basis for Christianity as the Bible and teachings of Christ, we would find that there is no appeal for money for God. Christians are exhorted to support those who care for them spiritually, but as a recognition of their contribution, not blindly.

 
jonjax71
Dec 30, 2008
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You have won my most heartfelt admiration Teachme. You did not accept what as presented to you blindly, you looked behind the curtain to see how the wizard performs his tricks, U go girl! The truth can always be questioned, it's deceit that won't stand up to scrutiny

"Free you mind and you ass will follow"
Parliament-Funkadelic

My ass has been set free for many decades.

 
idiminish
Dec 30, 2008
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Taking something that is sin and calling it not sin doesn't make it not sin. By literal definition sin means to miss the mark. You admit that you aren't perfect. Well, that means you're a sinner (literally speaking, mind you).

If there is a God, and He has declared you to be a sinner, then arguing that such things aren't sin simply doesn't matter.

 
ranger65
Jan 02, 2009
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Rebuttal to: helpme Show

Good post. The year is not 2009 because of Darwin. Thats pretty strong within itself. There is plenty of evidence to support the birth the life the death and the ressurection of Jesus Christ if a person really wanted to know the truth. Josephus and Pliney the Younger were the historians during that period and both record the activities surrounding Jesus.
A great book other than the bible is "The Case For Christ" which was written by the investigative Reporter for the Chicago Tribune. He started out to disprove the validity of Christ and when he was finished he gave his life to Christ.

 
rubberducky
Jan 03, 2009
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In the bible god tell us to go and spread the word of jesus christ.God loves everybody uncondionaly he sees sin all the same.Theirs only 1 way to heaven and thats threw christ and inviting him into your heart and thats as easy as A.B.C first you got Addmit your a sinner the bible says "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god" Second you need to believe that jesus died for for your sins the bible says"and yet wile we were still sinners christ died for us" and Thirdly you need to commit your life to god. the message to mankind is what i have just told you today and spread the word to EVERYBODY

 
ranger65
Jan 05, 2009
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Either you have been called, you've not yet been called, you were called but you rejected him and you have been turned over to a reprobate mind and you have really screwed your life up about as much as you possibly can, or you were called and you rejected him and then blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and you are now an apostate that cannot be saved.

 
ranger65
Jan 06, 2009
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Stupid? Every word from you and this band of nit wits that is posted here referring to God and Allah being the same is the stupidist thing I have ever seen.....The Quran first of all shows that Allah has no feelings whatsoever toward man whereas, Love is the cornerstone of the whole doctrine. God gave his life to save the Christians and we have grace and free salvation through a savior Jesus Christ. The quran first of all denies the Trinity, says God is not a Father and Jesus is not the Son of God. Allah requires men to give their lives in jihad to get to heaven there is no concept of grace whatsoever and there is no savior for the Muslims. This in itself would show any scholar (or anyone over 12) that you are not talking about the same God or the same relationship thereof. If he was the same God then Allah would be shown in human history by someone other than the murdering manipulator that stabbed his own people in the back to take over Kabah and Mecca. The God of the Bible has always dealt directly with his people and has had compassion and Love for his creation whereas this is totally foreign to the Islamic teachings. God is shown as a being and a spirit as the cornerstone of Christian teaching and if you were to say Allah was a spirit or a being you would be guilty of Blasphemey according to the Quran for demeaning the exalted one.

The bottomline is...I have witnessed the savage end of this belief system and you have not. You have nothing more than somekind of John Lennon stupid liberal gay love the whole world worm up your butt and you haven't a clue about what garbage is spewing from your skinny lizard type lips. When you grow up and have to kill your first Jihad fighter or lose your own life, you will look back on this post and you will remember Ranger65 told you these things but you were just too pigheaded with youth and Bob Marley's song "One Love" to listen.....Moron.

 
ranger65
Jan 07, 2009
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Good for you. Tell them to repent and get saved.

 
ranger65
Jan 07, 2009
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The last time you were sick, did you have faith that you were sick? Another words, based on what you felt you could say truthfully and have faith in the statement that you were sick. Did you say; "I am sick"? If you said that and I said: "How do you know you are sick?" What would you say? What if you didn't look sick? You could only tell me what you feel. You couldn't show me how you feel you could only say;"Because I feel sick."

Same with God. I may not be able to show him to you, but I could tell you how I feel and how you could feel the sameway.

 
jonjax71
Dec 30, 2008
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I am not a sinner, I d not commit sin. I am not perfect and I do wrong and I am guilty of causing hurt to folks through my actions or words. I also make wrong decisions and have done actions not up to my own principles of up to snuff in society's guidelines and common sense, however those are not sins and I do not need "salvation" and if i were to choose a faith-based philosphy in the future, it sure wouldn't be xtianity, judaism or islam, it would be a metaphysical, nature based religion ala the b'hai or universalists

 
011235813
Jan 01, 2009
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WOW.
yeah cause you christians are sooooo nice and kind to everyone. It's not like Jesus said to kill any man that tries to turn you away from god, even if he is your brother. Oh wait, yes he did!

Remember the inquisition? That thing that tortured and killed thousands just for not agreeing with the church and while doing that almost successfully ended scientific progress altogether?

Oh yea, and when the two angels came to visit "Lot" in Sodom and all the men in the city gather to rape the angels and Lot gives them his own DAUGHTERS instead. Oh yea, he was the GOOD GUY in that story.

So don't you dare take the moral high ground and say god preaches forgiveness.

 
ranger65
Jan 06, 2009
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YOU ARE AN IDIOT. IT IS HARD TO EVEN READ SOME OF THE LAME GARBAGE THAT YOU THINKIS PHILOSOPHY IS REALLY WITCHCRAFT. I CAN IMAGINE HOW PROUD YOUR FATHER IS. I ACTUALLY THINK YOU ARE A SINGLE PARENT CHILD AND I THINK YOU ARE A MOMMA'S BOY.

 
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That we are good people who should love each other because He loves all of us.



Dec 29, 2008
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hotub, I laughed at that lol.

where you would sound right, I must admit you are wrong, the church doesn't demand money, unless catholic =P, but most churches I know ask for it but its charity.

God loves us, he wnats us to follow him and he wants us to do good, in the Bible there are countless of things he asks us to do to be "good". Yes we are all sinners but the fact is God loves us. He didn';t condemn us by sedning his son, he came to save us. Its up to individual people to make the there own choice, I just spread what Jesus asked me to spread, that we should treat each other with love and treat my neighbor with the respect I would wnat them to show me.

 


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