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Is it wrong to have a girl leave her boyfriend just to date you?
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furiousgeorge
Oct 14, 2008
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tggdan3
Oct 15, 2008
5 convinced
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Better she leave him than cheat on him

 
blackkodiak
Oct 15, 2008
3 convinced
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Agree with tggdan, though I don't really understand the structure of the question "have a girl leave". Are you coercing her to do this? Because that's entering into a world of douchebaggery.

 
littleminx
Oct 17, 2008
2 convinced
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Competition is there if she has a boyfriend or a husband. People don't care about your partner...its you who makes the final decision.

I would not want someone to steal my bf...true, but if it happened obviously he is not the one for me. If he is willing to stray then so be it, rather learn sooner then later. BTW, we are not talking about cheating, this is about one person breaking up with their partner for another...

 
xanthippa
Oct 15, 2008
1 convinced
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I WOULD agree with you IF you were talking about a committed relationship - marriage.

However, this is a 'girlfrien/boyfriend' relationship - so there is no presumption of a permanent commitment. And, girlfirend/boyfriend relationships are supposed to be how one learns what to look for in a potential spouse - and what to avoid in a potential mate, how to build a basis for a relationship, and so on.

People learn well from their mistakes - well, mostly!

If someone 'steals' a girl from another guy, he will know somebody else can steal her from HIM. This will cause him to experience paranoia and jelaousy. Hopefully, he will learn that this is NOT something good for a relationship, and will avoid making such a mistake when building a foundation for a potentially serious relationship.

A lot of bad marriages can be prevented if people have the chance to learn how to BUILD a relationship.

 
littleminx
Oct 15, 2008
1 convinced
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Because settling with someone that is not all you ever wanted will end up bad in the end. Thats why women don't settle. If the guy is all that she wants then there is no reason for an upgrade. Its simple.....I dated a lot of guys and dumped a lot of them...i never settled until I found the one that was perfect for me.


 
littleminx
Oct 15, 2008
1 convinced
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...wow, this sounds like a bit dramatic for trying to win someone over. If he really likes her then a competitive attitude is not demeaning...

 
frankiej4189
Oct 16, 2008
1 convinced
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I never really saw a problem in doing this sort of thing. I'm only 19 so girls i date are still in the 18-22ish age. That means that if they have a boyfriend, its most likely a lot less serious then they think it is. It means that if a girl is willing to leave her boyfriend for a nother guy, then she realizes that her relationship isnt as important or as good as she thought or hoped.

BUT! This also means some bad things as well...

-Sometimes you get a girl that never liked her old boyfriend, but still feels guilty about leaving him so you (the new boyfriend) have to deal with the emotions and the crying and the depression of her guilt...which is never fun.

-If she did it to him, she can do it to you. Even if you're good to her and you make her happy and the sex is great, she can still leave you. Men and women usually will try and 1-up their current partner if they can and since there is always someone better than you, the possiblity is still open.

-Boyfriend troubles. I'm sure that the old boyfriend wouldnt take to kindly to you stealing his girl away from him. You have to not only worry about fighting the guy, but dealing with the old boyfriend calling her all the time, trying to get back together and what not. This can take a huge toll on any relationship.

Since you're still in school furiousgeorge, i'm assuming you're about 16-22 years old, so most likely her relationship isnt anything serious. Go for it, just be ready for the consequences.

 
jpresident
Oct 30, 2008
1 convinced
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You make me sick....

 
blackkodiak
Oct 15, 2008
0 convinced
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Then why are you arguing on their side? Come join us on the blue-side of the spectrum!

P.S. We all engage in displays of douchebaggery now and then.

 
xanthippa
Oct 15, 2008
0 convinced
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There is nothing wrong with it - just remember she thinks it's OK to upgrade when she can do better!

 
thethinker
Oct 15, 2008
0 convinced
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If you succeed, wouldn't that mean that her boyfriend is a nut making them both unhappy? You are doing her a favor.

 
frankiej4189
Oct 16, 2008
0 convinced
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DONT get to know they boyfriend first! Bad idea! Once he knows who you are and what you look like and has met you, you've got a whole new set of problems.

 
xanthippa
Oct 16, 2008
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You have not met my hubby, have you!

 
xanthippa
Oct 16, 2008
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Because we owe it to our progeny to secure the best possible genetic material for them, and the best possible provider to nurture them.

It is not our fault the so many men only qualify in one of the two categories!

Of course, there are those of us lucky girls who marry a guy who is two standard deviations above the mean in BOTH categories.....but those guys are few and far between.

 
xanthippa
Oct 16, 2008
0 convinced
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You learn by making mistakes. It is moral to learn.

 
vogs
Oct 16, 2008
0 convinced
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I think this is one of the best answers I have read on here.

 
jpresident
Oct 30, 2008
0 convinced
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If she is willing to dump him for you, he should be glad she broke up with him and didn't play around with his best friend behined his back.

Trust me when I say though, If shes that easy to convince the guy after you will take her...she'll be thrown around like a hot potato.

But hey, Id do it

 
carter2dabone
Jun 03, 2011
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If she is willing to leave him, then it wasn't meant to be any way. If she loved him and wanted to stay then she would. If she cheats on him with you, then she is wrong and so ar you for allowing her too! And if you break up a relationship, you should be commited to her instead of ruining her potential good relationship just to leave her.

 
Julie Howington
Oct 20, 2014
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If a girl leaves her boyfriend for you, she will most likely do the same to you once she thinks something better presents themselves to her. You will have trust issues also if she was flirting with you in any way or talking to you while she had a boyfriend which clearly she was she will do the same to you. You have to understand you will also get a lot of drama from that guy, his friends, and many others. You and that girl will have a horrible reputation. Personally I wouldn't date anyone who was trying to get me to leave my boyfriend or who has convinced a girl to leave her boyfriend that makes me believe you think cheating is okay which would make me think you'd cheat on me.

 
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apathetic
Oct 15, 2008
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As a guy, who's sucessfully stolen a girl, I have to say it ain't worth it for the following reasons.

1. You have to deal with a ticked of Boyfriend.
2. You have to deal with the ticked of Boyfriend's ticked off more agressive friends.
3. You will forever have trust issues with the girl (once a cheat always a cheat)
4. Your trust issues will almost certainly lead to the two of you breaking up pre-maturely.
5. Your reputation will follow you around for a while making it harder for both friends and potential girlfriends to trust you.
6. Usually, attraction in that sort of a situation goes down for both of you once you're dating because you lose that "taste of the forbidden fruit" thing.

That being said, based upon my own experience and other observations I have created a system that can break up couples with great accuracy and have in fact coached a friend on how to steal a girl (she's now having is love child.) If you're interested I will tell you but be warned.

PS Kodiak is right, it does make you a douchebag....I know I'm a douchebag but I accept that.

 
apathetic
Oct 15, 2008
4 convinced
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I'm arguing this side because....I'm a douchebag not a hepocrite.

 
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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. There are plenty fish in the sea. It seems immoral to me. (Personal Conviction).

-Till Christ Returns

God Bless

* If you continue this pattern you will only get into trouble, start a healthy lifestyle now. Don't be a womanizer.

 
apathetic
Oct 15, 2008
3 convinced
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I've thought of that in my exploits. However it's occurred to me that even a good relationship is not perpetually good. Your argument also assumes that you are capable of making her happy after you take her.

 
apathetic
Oct 15, 2008
2 convinced
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That's the kind of logic that's killed many a relationship. Why can't women just learn to settle?

 
yourfavoriteasian
Oct 15, 2008
1 convinced
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I'm gonna have to say no. First, you don't even know the girl or why she has a dorky looking boyfriend. If you steal her, it might not be worth it and you've just wasted your time and effort and also ruined two people's lives.

Second, is pretty much what apathetic said. Dealing with the ex sucks and he's going to try to win her back.

But, from your statement it looks like you're gonna do it anyway. So my advice is to get to know her and her bf first. Know what you're dealing with. this comes from experience (both success and failure).

 
apathetic
Oct 16, 2008
1 convinced
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Well every guy I've ever met had to settle.

 
xanthippa
Oct 16, 2008
0 convinced
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Or, you may decide you like the boyfriend more!

No, not a sexual inuendo. Just that you might realize that he would make a better friend than she would make a girlfriend. You BOTH dump her - and have a beer together while watching the game.

 
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Whether it be commited or not a relationship is between two people not three. He should wait, if the girl really wants to be with him, she should break it of. However in this scenerio he wants to "steal" her away from her boyfriend. Sorry but this to me still seems immoral.

-Till Christ Returns

God Bless

 
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There's no competition if she already has a boyfriend. However if she would want to break of with her boyfriend that is okay. But he shouldn't try to "steal" her away. Would you want somebody to "steal" your boyfriend. I think not.

-Till Christ Returns

God Bless.

 
yourfavoriteasian
Oct 17, 2008
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I say it because if he really is a good person (or at least good for her) leave them alone. If he's a jerk and she doesn't see it, then by all means show her the light. Besides, he's gonna know who you are eventually. You're trying to take his girl!

 
mawnonawronice
Oct 17, 2008
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I'm gonna diasgree. But it is not because of the girl or her boyfriend : If she let her boyfriend just because she's hot and he doesn't do his male job as perfectly as she may need, then her boyfriend deserve a better girl whose got a stongest human side. For the same reason, I don't care about the girl.

You're gonna ask me so why do I disagree? the Answer is that I care about you. maybe, you underestimated the relationship between the two persons and thus if you figured out that your plan is gonna never work in a moment in which you become attached to the girl, this will be able to destroy you or at least make you spend a lot time for nothing.

 


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