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Should the UK and Commonwealth monarchy be abolished?
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Queen Elizabeth asks UK Government for pay rise
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andre2552
Oct 04, 2008
10 votes
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Yes, they restrict the power commonwealth governments, they waste taxpayer money, and contribute not


andre2552
Oct 04, 2008
0 convinced
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1.) The queen is asking here for a "pay rise".
2.) The queen contributes nothing to society except scandals from her family
3.) All this money comes out of taxpayers pockets.
4.) She gets enough as it is, even under economic crisis she still is better off than most people throughout the commonwealth.
5.) Monarchs restrict the power of governments as they are considered the head-of-state like a president.
6.) They only go by family, and so we have basically no reason to keep them in their position, because they are not elected.
7.) All bills commonwealth governments want to pass need the Queen's consent.
8.) This even restricts our abilities to become a republic and be rid of the Queen.



 
andre2552
Oct 04, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: blackkodiak Show

Oh, well, I was thinking of the locals...

They are the ones who have to pay her for nothing.... and the governments, who have to have the Queen's approval for everything...

Tourism aside, there are better things to see in London...

 
jonjax71
Oct 04, 2008
0 convinced
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I am anti-monarchy, there have been a few isolated instances throughout history where a monarchy has been benificial e.g indigenous Hawaii and a few other examples but although they have leaders as king and queen, they are not identical to the super European monarchies of England, Spain, France etc and other regions over time

 
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blackkodiak
Oct 04, 2008
4 convinced
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Rebuttal to: andre2552 Show

Dear sir,

Speaking on behalf of the United Kingdom, I must ask -- do you have any appreciation for how much money the monarchy raises in tourist capital?

England raises approximately 30-40 billion USD per annum in overseas tourism revenue. The Queen costs approximately 50-60 million to maintain in the same period. While the Queen is not the only reason people go to England, she is a major factor and continues to be a stakeholder in that particular industry.

To suggest that she is a burden on society is just obscenely false. Indirectly, she is an asset.

 
blackkodiak
Oct 05, 2008
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: andre2552 Show

They don't pay for nothing. They are the people selling goods and services to billions of dollars worth of foreign consumers who wouldn't be there if not for the Queen.

I think there are far better things to see in London too, but that doesn't change the fact that others really want to see the Queen.

 


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