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Should Sarkozy be taking Judo lessons from Putin?
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frankiej4189
Sep 13, 2008
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Absolutely not


frankiej4189
Sep 13, 2008
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Damn, this debate was supposed to be based on an article but i guess i messed it up. Here's the link to the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/france_sarkozy_putin_dc

At a time when the Russia v Georgia conflict is going on and America's VP candidate is being asked if War with Russia is justifiable, i find it extremely innapropriate and stupid that Sarkozy is being so non-chalant with the leader of Russia. I dont think there is any conspiracy brewing behind this but i do find it to be a slap in the face to the Georgian people.

 
frankiej4189
Sep 13, 2008
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Because its a symbol that France and its leadership approves of Russia's actions in Georgia. Its not about the martial arts, Sarkozy could be coloring with Putin for all i care, its the message that Sarkozy sends to Russia and the rest of the Democratic world through his actions.

 
frankiej4189
Sep 14, 2008
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Its a friendly association with a man (Putin) who is pissing off a lot of leaders because of Russia's actions in Georgia. I doubt that an American leader or British leader would be doing the same thing. I doubt they would do something like this because they realize the severity of the Georgia conflict and how wrong Russia is right now. This is completely political because its a sign the the french leader Sarkozy is obviously o.k. enough with Russia's actions that he would allow himself to engage in a friendly act with a russian leader.

 
frankiej4189
Sep 14, 2008
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No, the gigantic loan America took out from China is a sign of Bush's tolerance of China's actions. But atleast in that case, our government is motivated by finances. What benefits do the French get form "tolerating" Russian aggression?

 
frankiej4189
Sep 17, 2008
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Would you hang out with a criminal, a crook, a convinct, a murderer, a thief, a really bad person..just for the hell of it?

 
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Sure, its not that big of a deal


moneyboy
Sep 13, 2008
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well it is a recreational sport that he needs a teacher for, so I see no reason that he should be with any other. I mean if you're in Rome you do as the romans right? So I see no reason for him to take lessons from someone lower than himself, any way as I mention its just a recreational sport not a allegiance with russia.

 
thethinker
Sep 13, 2008
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Why is it a symbol of approval? There is nothing political about this.

So, what, exactly, is this "message" you speak of, and how are you perceiving this message from Sarkozy's personal life? Please explain.

 
thethinker
Sep 14, 2008
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The point is, though, that I am missing the causal link between taking lessons from Putin and being okay with Georgia. I would say that while on some level it is true, it is not enough, just by Sarkozy taking lessons from Putin, to conclude that France is okay with Russia. If you are going to take the friendly association as approval, then would Bush having tea with Hu Jintao would mean that Bush approves of whatever China is doing?

 
thethinker
Sep 16, 2008
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It's that... I don't get why Sarkozy being friendly with Putin means he approves of what Russia is doing.

 


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