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Does love exist?
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omega1
Jul 11, 2008
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Love exists


sander
Jul 11, 2008
5 convinced
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Rebuttal to: omega1 Show

I don't understand - you are arguing that love doesn't exist by defining it?

Love does exist just as an emotion, just in our minds. Perhaps it is just to get us to have kids - does that change anything?

I agree that love may not be what most people think it is, if that's what you meant.

 
wicked
Jul 11, 2008
4 convinced
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I completely agree with you, that's why love DOES exist. You can feel love. I can feel love. Most people can feel it. It's not something supernatural, nor something that "science can't explain" like some ignorant idiots claim. Yet it exists. The chemical reaction in our brain that creates love exists, therefore, love exists.

 
cds69
Jul 11, 2008
3 convinced
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Rebuttal to: omega1 Show

Your argument for love as a survival mechanism designed to trigger reproduction is naive, simplistic and actually contrary to darwinian principles.

Love seems to encourage humans to stay with a single mate. This in and of itself is an argument against it being a mechanism designed to pass down our genetic code. The most efficent way to pass down your genetic code is to spread your seed to as many mates as possible.

There are several other flaws in your argument that bring about several questions....

1. If love is simply a mechanism for reproduction, why do we love our parents and our siblings?
2. Why do homosexuals love each other?
3. Why do people love their pet?
4. Why do post menopausal women feel love?
5. Why do sterile people feel love?

As for your ACTUAL debate topic, "does love exist?" I ask, how in the world can you prove the existence or non-existance of something that is intangeable?



 
jonjax71
Jul 11, 2008
3 convinced
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I have been married for for 33 years now-to the same women and she stills stimulates me mentally and in the mid-section. We have 2 wonderful sucessful children, a son and daughter both marriied with 2 kids each, our 4 grand children light us up when ever we're around them

If that isn't proof that loves exists then I have been living a fantasy

 
unlabled00
Jul 12, 2008
3 convinced
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According to the great philospher Haddaway:

Q.What is love?

A. Baby don't hurt me.

Through this we can see that, as love can be defined as "baby don't hurt me.", it must indeed exist. :)

 
themind
Jul 11, 2008
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: omega1 Show

Herein lies the crippling factor to your argument: Biological mechanisms existing within the mind. There are literally dozens of ways of thinking about the mind's relationship with the body. Uou claim that there is a cross-over between a 'biological mechanism' and then argue that it exists solely in the mind. By so arguing, you dispatch the possibility of monism. There is a duality that you are professing. Mind/body duality. The concession that it exists in the mind defeats your main argument. Hate, fear, happiness, metacognition, anger, peace, HUNGER, THIRST, PAIN, and ALL emotions are 'biological mechanisms' that register in our minds. These do exist. Love does exist, if only as a mental exercise.

Now, to the main thrust: You have love all wrong. Love does not encourage reproduction, it limits it. If I love a woman, I limit myself to reproducing with her alone. If I do not love anyone, I would reproduce with tons and tons of women, not caring about protecting the offspring or maintaining the relationship. Love is the stabilizing influence in society, not the driving force for sex. Love is what keeps humanity from dissolving into chaos.

Methinks you are thinking about lust. Allow me to illustrate: I love my brother. I do not lust after him. I love my sister. I have no inclination to have sex with her. Love transcends sex, gender, and reproduction and links people together with bonds stronger than death.

CDS has it right.

 
Brett Stubbs
Jul 11, 2008
2 convinced
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Rebuttal to: omega1 Show

good. then it exists.

 
brivapor
Jul 12, 2008
2 convinced
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only someone who hasnt experienced love could try to think logic could define love

its ........
love exists

 
frankiej4189
Jul 11, 2008
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: omega1 Show

I sure hope not..

 
frankiej4189
Jul 13, 2008
1 convinced
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Can you prove any of what you said? Or is this just an opinion? Most animals dont exhibit any signs of "human love" during their mating periods. Its mostly just hit it and quit it..to put it lightly.

 
helpme
Jul 11, 2008
0 convinced
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As a Christian, I refer to the Bible that describes exactly what love is. It does exist.

 

Jul 11, 2008
0 convinced
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Love exists...the end!

 
helpme
Jul 14, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

I was only chiming in on the subject. I was not trying to be insulting. But I notice that you do not have a problem getting your digs in. You seem very uptight at times. Who knows, you might even agree with the scripture's definition.

 
mushfique
Jul 15, 2008
0 convinced
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exists..end of story


 
helpme
Jul 17, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

you forgot angry and bitter.

 
zombieslayer1
Jul 17, 2008
0 convinced
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wait love can and might exist it all depends if we believe in it. Our modern society is built on believing in something that might not be real. Some of you might not agree with that, but is it not true?

 
jonjax71
Jul 18, 2008
0 convinced
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My life is not now nor was it ever perfect. I've had my share of tragedy and setbacks, however it is because of love of my immediate family that I and we got through it. The last 2-3 years tho have been the best with the least negativity....

 
zacharyrod
Nov 28, 2008
0 convinced
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Yes, love is controlled by hormones which let us feel "love", which in turn encourages us to reproduce, but this does not change the fact that it does not exist. Actually, this just proves it does. Also, in our minds we sometimes depict love as an abstract feeling that connects us, and since love is in the mind, you can then see that our depiction of love is as real as we want it to be. Last is the fact that, unlike most other animal species, we usually mate for life and have come up with things like marriage and Valentines Day, etc.

 
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If something such as love exists in one's mind, it is their truth. What I mean is, if you have a certain way you see life, that's the way it is and no one can argue that that's not the way you think. If love only exists in our minds, it exists. Can't argue with it.

 
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stetri
Jul 18, 2008
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

Congrats (and I'm not being sarcastic). You have what everyone on the GREEN side envies. This is why there is even two sides to this debate; we're still searching what you found. The only thing I do not like is when the word "love" is misused. Nowadays everyone has sucked the meaning out of it. I refer to it as a strong feeling/attachment/attraction, not "love".

 
omega1
Jul 11, 2008
0 convinced
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I have come to realize in the following months the complete pointlessness of love. If you are to look at the science behind it, you would realize it is simply a survival mechanism. Let me explain. Love is an emotion you feel created by hormones to encourage reproduction. As living things, our main goal in life is to reproduce and pass down our genetics. Of course, the human race would not be as large as it is today if we would have sex just to help expand our species. So nature created a way of making us want to do it using hormones. Now sex brought pleasure and fulfills a need we all have. In simpler terms, hormones let us feel "love", which in turn encourages us to reproduce. This is why it is a survival mechanism: no reproduction equals extinction. Love is simply making you attracted to the opposite sex in hopes that you will reproduce and help the human race survive. I know this is not the kind of love people are used to, with things today like Shakespeare and dating influencing them, but rather you admit it or not, it is the truth.

 
omega1
Jul 11, 2008
0 convinced
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Love is a biological mechanism and it only exists in our minds.

 
jonjax71
Jul 12, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: helpme Show

As a proud non-christian and disbeliever of the buybull. I know love exists and it has nothing to do with either of the afore mentioned entities

 
lithium
Jul 12, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: frankiej4189 Show

Well as long as you hope not...

 
stetri
Jul 15, 2008
0 convinced
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Love does not exist. It is only a stronger attachment to those we have come close to.

 
helpme
Jul 16, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

Well put.

 
stetri
Jul 16, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: jonjax71 Show

This just in. You've been living a fantasy. You were chosen out of 6.8 billion to live the perfect life. That is all.

 
jonjax71
Jul 17, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: helpme Show

As Public Enemy states, "I've got a right to be hostile"

 
stetri
Jul 17, 2008
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: zombieslayer1 Show

The meaning behind Love exists. Just like one day someone banged their knee on a table and said "Ow! Hey, I think I'll call that pain!" Someone one day said, hey I feel butterflies and I'm happy when I think about that person...I'll call it Love.

 


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