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Holocaust Denial
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donmega
Sep 22, 2007
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Is Stupid and wrong


ssboater
Sep 22, 2007
4 convinced
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Rebuttal to: juggernaut Show

As a jew, I hpoe you are kidding. My great grandparents died in Auschwitz.

 
thales
Sep 23, 2007
3 convinced
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Someone has been ditching too many foreign history classes....

 
dueonmaplestreet
Sep 22, 2007
1 convinced
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To deny history is to repeat history. The Holocaust happened and we must not let it happen again. Evil must be opposed wherever it is found.

 
jonjax71
Sep 22, 2007
1 convinced
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Alhtough there was a holocaust what I don't llikr sbout it when they discuss it, write about it or portray it in particual by Judaic organizations is that they forget that before the elimination of first German Judaics and then Easter Europeans Judaics, thousands of person of colr living i Germany were expelled and or murdered as well. it was easier to seek and find dark skinned and or non-Aryan Germans and Germany residents than those that practised Judaism who looked just like any other German for the most part but just followed a different faith

Another aspect I don't like is that were several other holocausts worse than whaat occurred in Germany yet it seems the term has been co-opted, other examples of notes are the Armenian holocaust by the Turks and for me the "Middle Passage" where hundred of thousands of Africans died and then were tossed in the ocean like garbage during slavery

Finally, a semite is any person of the Eastern Mediterrean, North Affrica, Lower Arabia, semite just means partial like semi yet like holcaust it has been co-opted only to mean Judaic persons, worse yet most of those are not true semite because the mahority of Judaism practicers are Easter Europeans, not semites, in fact they discrimanate against those that practice Judaism that are dark skinned or real semites, it took years for Israel to accept Ethoipians Judaics and Hebrews into Israel




 
donmega
Sep 23, 2007
1 convinced
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Dictionary.com defines Semite as:
a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
Answer.com defines Semitic as:
Se·mit·ic (sə-mĭt'ĭk) pronunciation
adj.

1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.
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So Arab Muslim suicide bombers are in effect anti-semitic, even if they only kill other arabs.

 
donmega
Sep 22, 2007
0 convinced
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Rebuttal to: juggernaut Show

The only one referred to as THE Holocaust

 
juggernaut
Sep 23, 2007
0 convinced
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Here is my serious argument.

Everybody that knows what a Holocaust is, knows that it happened.

Some people just do not like to admit it.

 
thethinker
Sep 24, 2007
0 convinced
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1. The testimony. How the heck, if it didn't happen, did we get them to testify?
2. Hitler hated jewish people. How can the lunatic not kill them?
3. The facility. Why did the allies build it if it didn't exist at first? Were they afraid of the German people trying to avenge their leader?

 
rhys
Sep 24, 2007
0 convinced
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"There's no proof whatsoever to the argument."

hrm, that would be a nice argument if it even had a tiny particle of truth in it. actually, there is TONS of evidence for the holocaust.

 
juggernaut
Sep 29, 2007
0 convinced
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You have painted yourself into a corner. Where you throw insults and run like a little girl.

 
matt1989
Aug 05, 2010
0 convinced
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The word, Holocaust, derives from Greek words, meaning complete destruction, usually by fire. By the end of the 17th century, the word came to mean a great slaughter or massacre. It is now used to describe the genocide against the Jews in Europe by the Nazis.

www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/voices/ref/gloss/glossary.html

an act of mass destruction and loss of life (especially in war or by fire); "a nuclear holocaust"
the mass murder of Jews under the German Nazi regime from 1941 until 1945

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

It's not always a religious term, depending on its context. You should understand all the definitions before formulating such a narrow debate.

Something else I'd like to say, Nazis were not ALL evil. Yes some of them were but in such a time when the country was in such a depression with all the old monarchist parties, the nazi party was the best thing since sliced bread. The propaganda, the lies, the sneakieness, nobody knew and the nazi's always looked like the knight in shining armour before the war. Of course people would have bought into it they told the people whatever they wanted to hear to get their adoration. Next thing you know your in the army, hoping to become ss to serve for your country against all the enemies (which before the war were not publicly declared as the jews (except to those that didn't like the jews)), your kids are in the hitler youth and your wife sits at home cooking and cleaning and making sure shes up on all the broadcasts over the radio.

All of this being said, yes there were soldiers who hated the jews and loved killing them, even after the war and those people are extremely evil.

 
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Is true, there was no Holocaust


juggernaut
Sep 22, 2007
0 convinced
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What holocaust?

 
juggernaut
Sep 22, 2007
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No such thing happened.

 
thethinker
Sep 24, 2007
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Anything I say below is simply for the sake of argumentation and not my opinion. Holocaust did happen.
(Hitler tone)
History can be wrong. It is written by the propagandists of the brutes!
/(Hitler tone)

 
thethinker
Sep 24, 2007
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Anything I say below is simply for the sake of argumentation and not my opinion. Holocaust did happen.
(Hitler tone)
They died in war. Causualty is normal in war.
/(Hitler tone)

 
thethinker
Sep 24, 2007
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Anything I say below is simply for the sake of argumentation and not my opinion. Holocaust did happen.

There's no proof whatsoever to the argument. Long ago, people all KNEW that the earth was flat. Then they KNEW the earth was the center of everything. Then they KNEW the earth was the center of everything.

 
cbart95
Sep 25, 2007
0 convinced
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Juggs has "painted himself into a special corner".
One where no sane person will be likely to give him the time of day.

He may choose to deny many factual things in his future life...at considerable loss of his credibility and acceptance with sane adults.

That could be a good lesson...maybe even divine.





 
pococonuts
Aug 05, 2010
0 convinced
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Holocaust Denial.

There is no holocaust! First of all, "holocaust" simply means an offering to God. In the Jewish tradition, they would burn animal sacrifices to God as an offering. This would simply mean that the one who offered is a priest, worthy of such an honor, the sacrifice is "clean", and it is an act of ritualistic sacrifice. Going to Nazi attrocities, it should not be considered as a "holocaust" first because it is not a ritualistic sacrifice, secondly, Jews are not animals (despite some people consider them to be), thirdly, Nazis are ungodly men.... I do not deny that Nazis are evil, its just that most people have a misapprehension of what holocaust is. Perhaps Jews should rectify themselves... If they considered their fallen brethren as holocaust, there must be something wrong with them. Moreover, the Jews have a religious history replete with instances wherein their nation is in trouble because they committed grave errors against God. God punished them several times to chastise them. If this so called "holocaust" did not come from God or allowed by Him, (of which I haven't heard of any Jew admitting), why use such a religious term?

 


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