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Does god really exist?
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Matt Giallonardo
Jan 03, 2014
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God does not exist


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If he did, why would he create such a race? Why would he lose time creating such a place? Life is life.

There is no Higher Being controlling your every moves and your destiny. As sad as it can seem to some people, God is only an invention to feel better about yourself, to stop worrying uselessly about what comes after. You're dead and that's it.

 
aadham
Jan 21, 2014
1 convinced
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Rebuttal to: Nick Hovestadt Show

Nick, clearly you are the one with half a brain as you are getting quite emotionally aggravated! It would seem as the world evolves many humans now have a whole brain and not half a brain, and they are able to understand logic. We see the effects of "theoretical" gravity - can we call this God? Does this mean we can say God is just another word for gravity? We can see (and feel) the effects of our sun - can we say God is just another word for the sun? I hope you are not thinking that God is a thinking and reasoning entity? I love science but sadly for me even science fails. Why? Well, how far back can theoretical science go back? To the beginning of time? Back to the "Big Bang"? I then end up asking "ah yes but if we're counting time back to zero then why can't there be anything before zero?" Is it just because we humans say so? Are we so intelligent that whatever we say simply must be? One thing I hope your half a brain will be able to understand is that whether a person believes in the "Big Bang" or "A God", the question will arise in both cases that something must have created the environment and provided the materials for both to exist. This is why the God as an entity cannot exist because look all around you in nature - for things to exist there are always two sides - male/female, hot/cold, day/night, wet/dry, matter/nothingness and life/death. Thus if any kind of thinking God entity IS to exist then there have to be many of them, with male/female parents to produce God or Gods...and God has to have a birth and one day surely even God WILL die!

 

Jan 15, 2014
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Jennifer Van De Vooren states that the consistent between majority of viewpoints in religion is: "God" is eternal, is everywhere and creates.

This part is a total sham. Space they say is vast but at present according to man's capability (or rather the lack of it) we don't know how big space really is. Thus, since we have no real evidence of a "God" we don't really know if it is "the God" that creates. We simply apply that because we (as humans) have failed to conclude anything more solid. Thus god does not exist.

 
Cancabs Manok
Jan 17, 2014
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If he show himself or an angel descending from heaven,then no more discussion will happen.

 
aadham
Feb 27, 2014
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Rebuttal to: Nick Hovestadt Show

My dear Nick, I am at this stage of my life, by no means confused - I have never been so enlightened. It is only unfortunate that my physical self (namely my memory) fails me and thus I am unable to help others (such as yourself) to see all existence in a different light. I am most definitely not wrong about nothingness - does a fish think that anything out of water must be "nothingness" just because it cannot breath there? We as humans know that out of water something indeed IS there - i.e. oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide etc. etc. So, nothingness indeed exists...just because humans are at this stage incapable of knowing it does not mean it does not exist. It is always wise to stay flexible, choosing only one side makes a person arrogant and incapable of adapting and learning - you should always keep an open mind. Until the point in time when someone (I forget who) proved that the world was round, everyone thought it was flat! How wrong they were! I am not looking to help me by proliferating my wisdom, I seek only to enlighten mankind...which, one day will happen...maybe not in my physical lifetime but one day it will happen. I hope you live long and learn much my friend. Farewell.

 
Sally Masone
Oct 05, 2014
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God is just the adult version of Santa Claus, just a idea to keep people from doing bad things. Ironically, many wars were cause by religion.

 
Dookharan Marvin
Oct 30, 2014
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Rebuttal to: Dick Nugget Show

That's odd because North Korea is an official atheist state and they have one of the highest murder rates in the entire world!

Sources: World and Its Peoples: Eastern and Southern Asia. Marshall Cavendish. Retrieved 2011-03-05. "North Korea is officially an atheist state in which almost the entire population is nonreligious." The State of Religion Atlas. Simon & Schuster. Retrieved 2011-03-05. "Atheism continues to be the official position of the governments of China, North Korea and Cuba."

 
Ahmed Abu Hussein
Aug 13, 2015
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There have been over 4000 religions/deities in the world, and the vast majority of us are atheists with regards to most of them. What makes your god different/more worthy of worship? The truth is, if you were born in Ancient Greece, you'd worship Zeus and all the other Ancient Greek gods. It's all a matter of chance that you were born into a Christian/Muslim/Jewish/whatever family. You were then repeatedly brainwashed. Somehow, a god who has created a separate realm specifically to punish those who have wandered away from "his path" or disobeyed him for all enernity, is also an "all-merciful", "loving" god. I rely on evidence and evidence alone (as any other rational person should.) The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. I'm a Biology student and have read The Origin of Species and have been studying evolution for a long time. The reality is, the evidence for it is so crystal clear, it's shocking how anybody could believe in creationism. It's just intellectual nonsense. Virgin birth is laughable. The best part about these so-called "miracles" that religious people go on about is that they don't happen today. There's no way I can believe in virgin birth because it was mentioned in some book written by multiple individuals millenia ago. All 3 major religions in the world today contradict each other directly, and each one says the others are false. Who to believe? An all powerful god would be intelligent enough to send down ONE book which everyone could be unanimous about. This is not the case. Stoning adulters, severing thieves' hands, killing apostates, these are all barbaric acts that belong in the Middle Ages. Everything has an end. When you die, your body's decomposed by saprophitic bacteria and that's it. You're gone. You return to the state you were before you were born; you simply cease to exist forever. The concept of heaven was made up by those who cannot accept this, and go one further by assuming a great, eternal life in paradise. I don't care how glamorous it is, living FOREVER would eventually get boring. Life ends, and that's the beauty of it. Hell was made up by the religious to control the masses, and get them to do whatever they asked them to do or else they would go to a place of fire and brimstone, to be tortured forever by some all merciful, loving god. Sure, lifeforms are amazingly complex, but that doesn't point to the existence of a creator. One can acknowledge that a garden is beautiful without admitting that there are fairies under it. The truth is, evidence for God, the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, Zeus, Apollo, Amun-Ra, Osiris and their likes is equally lacking.

 
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God exists


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The question isn't the rationalization of the behavior of "God", it is the analysis of if a (or the) "God" actually may exist.

The biggest issue with tackling either being for or against the notion of "God" is the actual definition of the word.

Since "God" is defined in many ways by different religions, the only way to rationally discuss it in this context is to stick with the consistent attributes between beliefs. Thus, this dislodges personifications and dogma from this particular debate. What is left that is consistent between the majority of viewpoints in religion is: "God" is eternal, is everywhere, and creates.

Spinoza tackled this question in a much more in-depth manner, with a Christian/Catholic angle, and through logic that has not yet been dismissed proved the existence of "God". However, since I for one haven't managed to digest the full breadth of his logic, I cannot say that I've followed this line to the end conclusion.

Therefore, to keep it simple, is there anything that might be eternal, be present everywhere, and hold the ability to create another thing? Many scientific discoveries appear to show that there might.

 
Nick Hovestadt
Jan 19, 2014
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Obviously God exists. Maybe not the God of Christianity or Islam or any other religion, but there is a God, or at least a higher power. Anyone with half of a brain knows this. If you believe that science has all the answers and everything, well good for you, but you are wrong. If science is right and has all the answers, why do doctors call their profession a "practice?" It's all based on science. And science can't solve a lot, but one big things is the mystery of the human brain. Scientists have tried and failed to figure out what happens inside of the brain. They cannot do it, and this is because something, God, controls us all. God controls how we think, how we act, what we do, God controls everything. I am not a highly religious person, but if you think logically there is a God. It may not be the God that we think of, but there is a God or higher power. And if your only argument is that humans can't prove that God exists, then shut up and leave this debate; clearly you are an idiot. If that's your argument, you clearly don't know a lot about science. A lot of things have not been proven, like gravity. Technically gravity is a theory, because we can't prove it. We can't prove a lot that we believe in. But God does exist, regardless of whether we can prove it or not.

 
Nick Hovestadt
Feb 02, 2014
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Rebuttal to: aadham Show

Okay, well I don't really know how to respond considering you partially helped my argument, but I'll try not to confuse you too much. First, I did not say that it is a definite God that exists, I said a higher power of some kind, like a God. And you're wrong about there being an opposite of matter, because there cannot be nothingness according to science. But then again, you said yourself science does not have all the answers. Next time you try to prove someone wrong, don't chose two sides of the argument, it won't help you. And what does God have to do with gravity?

 
Dick Nugget
Oct 09, 2014
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God exists, especially in the mind of terrorists. They will die and kill for their "God".

We have religious leaders in the US telling people how to vote, think, and feel as well.

 
Dick Nugget
Oct 09, 2014
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God exists, especially in the mind of terrorists. They will die and kill for their "God".

We have religious leaders in the US telling people how to vote, think, and feel as well.

 
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Rebuttal to: Sally Masone Show

Do your studies right please. If you look closely religion is used as a excuse to fight. I do not believe any religion teaches war to be right. It is simply good religion hijacked by ill intentions.

 
Dookharan Marvin
Oct 30, 2014
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Modern science has proven that free-will is non-existent, so of course God does exist.

Physics shows us that there are laws, order and determinism.

 
Dookharan Marvin
Oct 30, 2014
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Rebuttal to: Marie-Ève Bousquet Show

Sorry..but modern science has proven that there is no such thing as free-will.

There is more scientific evidence contradicting the existence of free-will than there is contradicting the existence of God!

So if you believe in free-will then you don't believe in science.

 
Quorlina Winsdor
Dec 08, 2015
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i belive in something called the God dynamic. The god dynamic is what you believe is the higher power or why we are here. I do not believe that there is a traditinal God, i belive we create and we controle our lives. we ouselves are responisble for our good doings and bad and we ourselves are responsible for the karma that comes to us. we are in total control of not only our lives but the world around us. we must take full responisbility. and to some that is a scary point of view, me being my own god. yes it takes a lot of responsiblility and yes it takes a lot of sacrifies, i will not let something else determin if i have done something good or bad. If i do not want it done to me i will not do it to someone else. and if i do i will feel bad and the universe (the karma and energy i put into it for felling guilty about my wrong doing) will send me a reality check based on how bad the wrong doing was. so yes there is a God and i am that god. everyone is thier own God. You know right from wrong. you know that when you do wrong something bad happens after and when you do right something good happens after. you know that if you even think of doing something bad you could trip or stub your toe. i believe that we must take full responsibility in our life and if something that bad that seems random in our life we must have the ability and self respect to look at ourselves and say "what did i do that was wrong, what bad action did i justify to make it ok" it is scary at times but its also calming. knowing that you have full responsibility over yourself and your life and that you are still meant to do good.

 


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