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Better Hiphop Artist?
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dereksemeraro
May 26, 2007
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Notorious B.I.G.


dereksemeraro
May 27, 2007
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1) Biggie had fiercer disses
2) He had the beat
3) He had the rhyme


 
rolanderikson
May 26, 2007
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Biggie is the only rap artist I listen to regularly. The way he tells a story feels so real that even though he may or may not have done all the things he said he does in his rhymes I believe that he did do them. He paints a picture so vivid that you can't help but get sucked in. I also like the way that you don't have to strain to understand what he is saying, which makes it that much more authentic. As for Tu-Pac I can't say that he has ever interested me enough to even warrant a listen.

 
jonjax71
May 28, 2007
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Rebuttal to: reezer Show

I agree, KRS-ONE is by far a superior hip hop artist than BIggie and Tupac put together. Tupac Shakur to those of us who knew his mother back in the day was a dissapointment as he didn't live up to his name. I followed Tupac's career since he was just a dancer for Digital Underground. Instead of staying true to the cause he was educated and raised up in, he sold out and went the bling and thug route Sadly, the deaths of Biggie and Tupac began the decline of hip hop and the onset of rap, a huge difference. Rap needs to die so that hip hop can return from its dormant undaground period it is in now,

Grandmaster Flash, Bambatta, RUN-DMC, Public Enemy, KRS-ONE, Eric B & Rakim, Diggin in Da Crates Crew, Gangstarr, Paris, et al now that's hip hop, Jurrasic 5 is one of the few true hip hop crews still around.

Jon Jax 71

Jon Jax 71

 
jonjax71
May 29, 2007
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Tupac certainly was an artist. He lived and breathed hiphop, and while he did have the outward appearance and persona of a gangbanger, no single rapper since or before has made the concerted efforts for legitimate social change like Tupac.

Tupac Shakur is NOT the artist with the most concerted efforts to effect social change. Afrika Bambatta founded the Almighty Universal Zulu Nation with branches around the world, an orginization that stopped gang violence and educated its members and urged social change and perosnal improvement through hip hop. KRS-ONE founded the Stop the Violence and H E A L groups. Public Enemy's Chuck D is still a formidable activist as is San Francisco's Paris. Oaktown's Le Coup remain active in East Bay issues. These are just a few examples. Tupac was a living contradiction

That (Rap) is what Biggie was a part of, and he was better at rapping than anyone before or after (with a few notable exceptions).
Biggie doesn't even rank in the top ten of best emcees or rappers, neither in lyrics, free styling or style. Rakim, KRS-ONE(champion improviser), Grandmaster Caz, and I can name about a dozen more that would trump Biggie in an open mike free style competition.

Jon Jax 71 A First Skool hip hopper, ain't nutin old about hip hop




 
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Tupac Shakur


reezer
May 26, 2007
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The *real* answer, of course, being "KRS One".

 
bndnchrs
May 29, 2007
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Luckily for this argument, it was phrased such that it is about being a hiphop artist, not just a rapper or a lyricist. Hiphop is a movement, much more than the music that is its major front, ad Tupac certainly was an artist. He lived and breathed hiphop, and while he did have the outward appearance and persona of a gangbanger, no single rapper since or before has made the concerted efforts for legitimate social change like Tupac.
While Biggie was a better lyricist (and more fun to listen to, I think), he hardly ever strayed from the style of rapping that is the norm today (women, drugs, and killing people). That (Rap) is what Biggie was a part of, and he was better at rapping than anyone before or after (with a few notable exceptions). The problem is, Biggie was NOT hip-hop, not by a long stretch. He was a rapper, which is a label in no ways demeaning, though current rappers might make you inclined to feel that way. Tupac was a hip-hop artist, a master of his craft who was able to incite both emotion and change with his music. Of the most important hip-hop or rap songs ever, Tupac surely has three of the top five (Brenda's Got a Baby, Dear Mama, Keep Your Head Up) About the last song, what rapper would put a song out oabout how women should feel good about themselves, and should not reduce themselves to video girls??? Nobody but Tupac, and his ability to transcend the cliche image of a rapper or hiphop artist and be something that was both an artist and a leader for the black community was and is unheard of. Biggie can't even compare.

 


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