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Who turned out being more trustworthy: G.W Bush or Saddam Hussein?
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supremebeing
May 14, 2007
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G.W Bush turned out being more trustworthy.


tggdan3
May 14, 2007
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GW didn't kill the soccer teams that lost.
He also doesn't committ genocide.
But if you really feel that saddam's more "trustworthy"...

 
rolanderikson
May 14, 2007
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Saddam kind of was a terrorist...

 
rolanderikson
May 14, 2007
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I would like to see you give an example of George Bush committing "genocide".

 
rolanderikson
May 14, 2007
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I don't want to turn this debate into "George Bush, the Devil. True or false." But don't you think that if George Bush were committing genocide it would look quite different?

 
tggdan3
May 14, 2007
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No he's not. Show me how he is.
Also look up genocide.

 
dereksemeraro
May 14, 2007
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Saddam follows his word.

 
froggyj4
May 14, 2007
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Can you name one lie of George W. Bush's? You can say there were no WMDs, but there's no proof that Bush knew that before the fact. I still think there is no proof whatsoever that Bush stated something that he knew was not true at that point.

 
froggyj4
May 17, 2007
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You're telling me that the man who said making the case for WMD in Iraq was a "Slam Dunk" also told George Bush that there were no links between Saddam and terrorist groups? I also think that George W. Bush never said that Iraq was buying/selling nuclear weapons. I believe he said that there was evidence that he was attempting to build one.

To prove that Bush lied, you must show me the statement he made (since you said it was nationally televised, it shouldn't be difficult to procure a transcript), prove that it's false, and prove that he knew it was false when he made it.

For the nuclear bomb statement you offered, I doubt you can prove he said Iraq was buying/selling nuclear weapons. Can you fulfill the three requirements for anything to prove that George W. Bush lied?

 
froggyj4
May 20, 2007
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"98% of the peole that watched the State of the Union before the war thought that if we don't attack Iraq IMMEDIATELY another 9/11 would happen."

I guess I should count myself in that other 2%. I pay pretty close attention to the news, and I didn't, for one moment, think that Iraq was an imminent threat, and I doubt that 98% of the people watching the state of the union did. Looking back, I remember thinking that Bush was saying that Saddam was researching nuclear weapons and had chemical/biological weapons. We were doing it to bring democracy to the mideast, and to punish them for not obeying UN sanctions. All of these reasons were given to go to war. I'm not convinced that any of them was a deliberate attempt to mislead us into war. I understand that many people do, but I think those people must allow for different interpretations especially since you can't PROVE your case.

 
kenski70
May 27, 2007
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So what was that program Saddam had going to give money to families of suicide bombers in Isreal then???? That has been proven and widly publicized.

 
kenski70
May 27, 2007
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Hey instead of spouting off your missinformed BS google "Halabja" and take a good look.....

 
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Saddam turned out being more trustworthy.


rolanderikson
May 14, 2007
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What exactly is it that Saddam did that made him trustworthy?

 
supremebeing
May 14, 2007
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Well, he did say that he no longer had any WMD’s and he also said that he had no connection to terrorism groups…which both turned out to be true.

 
supremebeing
May 14, 2007
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G.W Bush isn’t committing genocide?

 
supremebeing
May 14, 2007
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Genocide: A deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, religious, or cultural group.

The definition of genocide essentially describes the war in Iraq.

Most people agree that there is genocide occurring in Africa as we speak. So I will use Darfur as an example of genocide. But, the number of deaths in Sudan pale in comparison to the number of deaths in Iraq. Sudan with a population of 41,236,378 (July 2006, CIA Fact book estimate) is purported by some sources to have incurred 200,000 deaths Iraq with a population of 26,783,383 (July 2006, CIA Fact book estimate) has a far greater fatality rate covering approximately the same period of time (estimates of Iraqis killed range from 250,000 to over 700,000).

When will the war in Iraq be over? when all enemies of the US have been destroyed.
What happens when 90% of the country is against the U.S? 90% of Iraq will be destroyed.

I don’t think there has ever been such a complete destruction of a single country/culture in my lifetime as there has been in Iraq…and as we type the occupation/destruction continues.


 
rolanderikson
May 14, 2007
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I like George Bush...

 
supremebeing
May 15, 2007
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When the CIA (George Tenant) tells the president that there are no links to Saddam and terrorist groups before the invasion of Iraq. When he tells the president that there is no evidence linking Saddam to the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Then the president goes on National T.V and tells Americans that Saddam is harboring terrorists and Saddam is buying/selling nuclear weapons despite having NO evidence supporting his statements…those are lies. More importantly those are lies that have directly caused death, murder, torture, and destruction. Not only the murder of innocent Iraqi men, woman, and children, but also the murdering of our courageous soldiers. Anyone that supports president bush, supports corruption, greed, and terrorism.

 
supremebeing
May 18, 2007
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You are mistaken with your slam dunk statement…If you read George Tenants book he clearly states that that phrase was taken out of context and twisted in a way to create a reason to go to war with Iraq. He said IF there were connections between terrorists/nuclear weapons a slam dunk case could be made.

I know the people that write George Bush’s speeches and tell him what to say to the public are experts in what they do. They know the ways in which they could use a particular phrase, along with the presidents acting ability to get there point across with actually spelling it out. They are masters of deception and language. 98% of the people that watched the State of the Union before the war thought that if we don’t attack Iraq IMMEDIATELY another 9/11 would happen. We were led to believe Saddam and Al Qaeda was working hand in hand buying uranium from Africa and planning to use it against the United States. We now know that was 100% false. So why did the administration go to such lengths to convince the American public we had to go to war? Why did they deliberately cover their own buts by wording the speeches so they could not be caught in their lies?

Bottom line: The proof that the George Bush administration lied to the American public cannot simply be defined in what words were said. They deliberately used a sneaky combination of words, tone of voice, opinionated news casts, to fool the American public. Maybe “LIE” is not the correct word to use…but the tricked, deceived, painted a picture, which turned out to be far, extremely far from the truth. They used the distortion of the truth to cause, death, destruction, and murder of not only Iraqis, but also Americans. They should be brought to justice.


 
bashir
Jun 15, 2007
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See what he is doing in Iraq, all those who killed in Saddam's days are killed in one day of Bush days in iraq

 


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