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Is it humanity's mission to confront evil?
Philosophy

rolanderikson
May 11, 2007
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Brett Stubbs
May 11, 2007
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Rebuttal to: deathtrip66 Show

1. We use natural resources..how is this evil? Animals use them as well. It's called having to live. Water is very essential to that whole living thing. And as far as oil and natural gas are concerned...uh, was a monkey going to use them? Did some other species need it, and we robbed them of it? I don't think any other species need oil and natural gas. Nor do they know how to extract it.

2. Bacteria shouldn't be given a bad wrap. Without all of the bacteria in your body, you'd be dead. The world needs bacteria...it is the perfect organism. Of course there are bad strains, but don't view bacteria as bad...it's kind of like...saying humans are bad.

3. our purpose is to propergate our species...And does any other species have a different purpose? That is the purpose of every species.

You watch too many disney movies. Every species kills, and much more often than humans do. Let's take Lions for example...the females stay together, and the males come and go. Most male lions don't live beyond 5 years old. Why? Because a new group of males will arrive on the scene, and kill the older ones...then what happens? If the female lions have cubs, they won't mate...simple solution, the new males lions will then kill all of her young, so they can mate with her. Nice guys.

Correct, humans do occasionally kill each other. But for the everyday human, we don't kill each other that often. I never have, and I imagine you haven't murdered anyone either. But for lions, this is how they operate.

Combat evil I don't know, but don't go spewing crap about how evil the human race is, unless that is you have logical arguments.

 
nbcrusader
May 11, 2007
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I would offer that humanity's primary mission is to care and love one another, with confronting evil an necessary subcomponent of such care and love.

If people are starving, you send food. If a group is stealing the food, simply sending more does not fulfill the primary mission. You must confront those who are stealing the food as well.

 
dereksemeraro
May 11, 2007
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There is NO SUCH THING as evil. The purpose of life is to hunt for food and reproduce, then perish.

 
xxcommunistcatxx
May 11, 2007
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i agree

 
Brett Stubbs
May 11, 2007
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Rebuttal to: xxcommunistcatxx Show

So do you live in a hut? How do you get aroun, no car? So in fewer words, you're saying that what you do is evil? If you do live in a hut, use no electricity, have never driven a car, then congrats, bravo to you. If not then, you don't have a point.

Everyone loves that bandwagon, don't use natural resources, and don't drive a car, and yet no solutions. Try it for a year. Don't heat your house in the winter time, A: because burning wood would ouput more co2 than driving your car, and B: That clean burning natural gas can't be consumed because, well we were saving it for some other purpose. On top of that, don't plug anything in, because there are good chanes that you'll be using coal to do it, with or without your knowledge. Until everyone can do that and accept those living conditions (which will take us back to the days of 35 year life expectancy), then you have a moot argument. Way to hate humanity. And animals do kill for fun. Do you have a dog? I do. She kills birds. Does she need to? No. Does she eat them? No. She just likes to kill birds. Animals exhibit this behavior constently.

And this is hilarious "all you did was prove his point", He said we're evil for killing and destroying the earth? So in what way did I prove his point...By saying he was wrong? Well I am on a laptop that is plugged in, so maybe a little bit of logic..ummm, nah, once again, lacking logic.



 
rolanderikson
May 12, 2007
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And would it not be humanity's mission to confront those evils caused by other humans?

 
dereksemeraro
May 15, 2007
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Rebuttal to: henthorn Show

The definition of evil has to do with morality. Morality is opinion. Any debate with evil, is with opinion.

 
dereksemeraro
May 15, 2007
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The definition of evil has to do with morality. Morality is opinion. Any debate with evil, is with opinion.

 
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tggdan3
May 12, 2007
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All the evil in the world was created by humanity.

 
xxcommunistcatxx
May 12, 2007
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Rebuttal to: Brett Stubbs Show

i never said i didnt contribute to the evil, i also never said i cared. i just agreed that we are destroying this planet, which is
proven. the piont here is to say that, yes we are ruining the earth, and some day we wont be able to live here any more. i never said we should stop driving cars and living in houses. i just read your argument and thought to myself that you were
missing the whole point. i wasnt trying to preach about how we should give every thing up, that would suck, living in a hut, screw that.

also i never said a word about co2, i was talking about nox(nitrogen oxides) and so2(sulfer dioxide) which comes from burning fossil fuels, this is what creates smog and acid rain.

and what i ment by "proving his point" was some peoples eyes arnt even open to what we are doing. you sit and try to say that we are not destroying the planet and it a huge deal right now.


 
deathtrip66
May 11, 2007
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Humans, are evil.
We use up natural resources, destroy the earth, kill wild life for fun, and even kill each other.
the most evil thing on this planet is humans.
we are like a bacteria, ruining a beutiful thing, spreading were we dont need to be.
our purposeis to propergate our species.

 
xxcommunistcatxx
May 11, 2007
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Rebuttal to: Brett Stubbs Show

okay yes water is essental to all living things but it is a renewible resource, besides i think he means recourses that we dont need to live. we dont need oil to live we need it to drive our cars and heat houses. also burning oil creates smog and acid rain, which is destroying trees, which gives us oxygen. no a monkey wont use oil, but us using it is destroying the ozon and givig off unneeded green house gases. yes some bacteria is good but its a figure of speach, so stop changing the subject. and the fact that animals kill, thats for survival and deathtrip said we kill for fun, which is tru, and as far as humans killing each other mabe we should so the population does not grow to its carring capacity and the race wont die out. and dont say his arguments are ilogical because all you did was prove his point.

 
henthorn
May 12, 2007
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Rebuttal to: dereksemeraro Show

You are wrong in every respect.

Evil certainly does exist; I reffer you to the argument here:
(http://www.convinceme.net/viewOpenDebate.php?dib=1117).

As for the purpose of life being simply to "hunt for food and reproduce, then perish" as you claim, you could not be more far from the truth. To say that humanity's role is on par of that with any other animal, plant or bacterial lifeform in existance is pure nonsense - the human race has become, has made itself, far more than that.

No other animal on earth has reacvhed a point of development when, far from spending all out time desperately trying to survive and reproduce, we have been able to sculpt the world around us and change into something that allows humans to rise above the status afforded to mear animals.

Evil is a human invention, and while unpalitable by its very description, its conquest is not the ultimnate goal of humanity as a whole.

Humanity's goal, and it's greatest achievemnnt is to be abouve animal instincts, and become something truly unique in the world we inhabit.

 
tggdan3
May 14, 2007
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Rebuttal to: rolanderikson Show

It depends on how you look at humanity. As one unit, alone in the galaxy, the "evils" don't really exist. It's really only evils we put upon each other.

If we break humanity in to groups such as the victims and the evildoers- then it's not our job to fix it, since we're either the victims- so it's not our fault, or we're the evildoers, who don't care.

If we add a 3rd group- the people who are supposed to fix it, then maybe- but why?

 
silverfire
May 14, 2007
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I think the main purpose in life, as with many animals is self-preservation. If you look at it like that, anything you do to further perpetuate your own life span can only be seen as good. Therefore only a few things could be considered wrong or 'evil'

However evil has to do with an interpretation of morals, and who defines morals? Humanity? So it's our obligation to only solve problems that we've created AND defined?


Seems a little squirrely

 
henthorn
May 15, 2007
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Rebuttal to: dereksemeraro Show

"The definition of evil has to do with morality"

I agree completely; they are very closely linked. I woulod stress that your morality is based on your perception of right and wrong, good and evil.

So, for a moral outlook to be formed, a view on what evil is must be concieved also. If, like some of the people in the 'Does Evil Exist' debate, you feel that evil is defined only by the abscence of good, then you must have an idea of evil perputrating as a state of existance - something can become evil.
So if evil things or actions can exist, an evil force is being developed and formed. Evil becomes an active thing, a force in its own right.

But enough of trying to apply physics to a spiritual matter. If you wish to take this further, please start a new debate, or contribute to the old one.

I would also point out that your argument seems to currently consist of 'I don't believe in evil personally, so by my standards you are wrong because I can't believe in your argument'. Whilst it is of course important to consider your personal opinion, I would sugest that you do not make it the base of your entire argument; logic and reasoning is far more pallitable for other debators. Who's going to bother arguing against 'it's what I think so I must be right'?

 


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