Look, voting for Batman against Superman is like voting for George Mason to take the NCAA championship last year just because they made the Sweet Sixteen - you just want to root for the underdog... You are not voting FOR Batman, you are voting AGAINST Superman, aka the "Yankees" of Superheroes. Not Cool.
Besides, what is this "ninjitsu" crap about Batman, let's not turn this into some sort of rehash of the Ninja-Pirate debate. This is not about martial arts, dude. This is about the fact that yes, Superman has laserbeam eyes, and yes, those laserbeam eyes would cut Batman in half.
lordofundead
Jan 19, 2007
Touche - Superman has trouble "going to the mattresses" if you will, in terms of not off-ing his opponents. But Batman is the same way - see Batman Begins.
But the fact remains, that if you had a Cage Match - ONLY ONE MAN LEAVES ALIVE - that man would be SUPERMAN, NOT BATMAN.
It's not crazy that Batman would win. If he's such a super genius, he'd definitely bring some kryptonite. My 3 year old could beat Superman with some kryptonite.
Superman is an alien with super powers.
nuff said.
Puhleeze. Batman wrote the book on gayness. Ya think he dressed Robin in short shorts for better flexibility?
Admittedly, Superman's costume is a bit clashing and unfabulous, but give him a break--he's an alien.
Incidentally, Superman was created by Jews, not the Nazis.
And even though Batman would be more fun to kick it with, he's pretty powerless when it comes down to it. In a VS. Battle, Batman represents the common man making something of himself, whereas Superman represents the landed elite, the Man. And we all know, no matter how much we wish it could be otherwise, the Man always wins.
It doesnt say batman with kryptonite, it says Batman Vs Superman
So we exclude krypton, what can batman possibly do to harm supermen??
Punch him? Hit him with his car?
Again batman is cooler but he cant beat supermen, with kryptonite maybe but debate is Superman Vs Batman, not Batman with kryptonite belt or some sh*t
Superman's outfit and Clark Kent's dorkiness reflect the fact that he is a man of substance and not a man of pomp and circumstance.
Bruce Wayne has to compensate for having no super-powers with his money and appeal.
Superman's appeal is that he can kick anyone's ass. Last time I checked, Batman is in the "anyone" category.
Let's not forget the fact that Superman has faced many opponents who have tried to exploit his weakness to Kryptonite.
Ask them how that turned out.
Kryptinite
Feb 01, 2007
Being cool wins? Maybe Batman has the on that side of the argument, but an all out fight would show Superman triumphant.
Hands down win to Superman.... Oh and Arians were said to have blond hair.
It disturbs me to see all this Superman hate. He's boring, you say!? Then here's what you need to know:
Superman is the superhero of superheroes.
A good comic writer sometimes catches the majesty that Supes carries. Superman just has to stand there, just stand there, huge and blue, with his angry, glowing eyes, and other heroes will become tongue tied. Lesser villians will just stop fighting. It doesn't matter what's going on; alien invasion, 100 foot monsters...when you see that blue streak tear through the air, you breathe a sigh of relief and think, "the big guy is here." You may hate him, but I love him for that sheer power and majesty. I just gotta pay my respects.
In terms of battling, yes, Batman can outstrategize Supes in a heartbeat. But superman can move very quickly, and if it came to it (the argument that he wouldn't is moot--if it came to it--) superman could just fly through him from anywhere in the world. If it came to it, there would be no fight. Batman, for all his brains, could be evaporated from the moon.
First and foremost, Superman IS Superman. He pretends to be Clark Kent, a bumbling reporter, not just to fit in, but to rule out any possibility to super villains that Superman is living as a mortal among humans. To date, his true identity has never been ascertained by said super villains, only revealed willingly. Superman's real identity is, well, Superman.
Bruce Wayne IS Bruce Wayne. At night? He pretends to be a giant bat that wreaks . . . vengeance. The motives are impossibly shaky, gray, and impure. Fueled by deep, dark, and complex motives, he is forced to continue putting on a bat suit, arraying himself with gadgets he has invented, and exacting his own form of vigilante justice. Sounds a bit crazy put this way, no? I can hear Dr. Phil now: "You dress up as a bat at night, Bruce! A bat!" Batman's real identity is Bruce Wayne. Quit pretending to be something you aren't.
Secondly, now overlooked and ignored, according to the most recent Superman revisionist history (yes, post-Superman Returns), HE IS NOW IMMUNE TO KRYPTONITE. This is due to his now prolonged exposure to solar rays. That's right, the Man of Steel has developed an immunity to all kryptonite, save for impossibly obtained forms of kryptonite colors the comic book histories have never revealed. The old standard, green kryptonite, couldn't do it to the modern Superman. He'd just laser that cute little utility belt right off and that would be that. If you read the comics, you'd know this. I understand it's a shock to the unknowing public, but do a little research and prove me right.
So when it comes to cool, Bats is pretending to be something he isn't. And when it comes to kryptonite, Superman's immune.
I don't think that leaves much for Bats.
atomic1fire
Feb 01, 2007
Batman has intellegence and kung fu as well as lots of money
superman has outdated tights with some superpowers he has to recharge by the sun
nuff said
dvilledebater
Feb 01, 2007
First off, I know Supeman would lose the popularity contest but thats not what we are voting on we are voting on who would win in a battle between these two heroes.
Secondly, Batman is not a Super Hero, he has no Super Powers and thus can only be classified as Hero not a Super Hero which is why I like him more because he is an average person with average person weaknesses while Superman is a Super Hero with amazing abilities.
Now third we can see since Superman has Super powers and had overcome his weakness of kryptonite so many freakin times that he would beat the average hero that is Batman.
I love Batman so much more than Superman but the victore in this Battle is clearly Superman, which kills me to death to admit.
sabrejimmy
Feb 01, 2007
The only reason Batman always survives is because he is put in situations which he can overcome with a utility belt and some wings
Superman on the other hand has actual - super - powers
Batman could never face the obstacles Superman encounters
avinashvarma
Feb 02, 2007
Le's be honest....
Superman did go out with Lois Lane on a few dates while without his cape he is a loving husband....
Did batman did have a thing fo catwoman but most of the time he would hang out with boy wonder.
Bruce wayne never did got married.
Whose's gay now...
apolloandi
Feb 03, 2007
Can the kryptonite argument because that doesn't fly anymore; someone else already pointed out that Superman is immune to kryptonite. Don't forget that Batman had his back broken by Bane...yes a huge ordeal to overcome, but Superman did die and come back from the dead. Don't think Batman could do that.
Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns is an alternate, futuristic universe. So, while he may own Superman then, focus on the current DC Universe. Given no time to prepare at all...if someone just put them in a death cage match, Superman would win. Maybe if given some time to prepare, Batman would win. He did create the OMAC project to get rid of the meta humans in case something happened. He was paranoid basically. The OMAC project was very Matrix like, however, and turned on all the meta-humans. So I think Batman could kill Superman, given months and years of preparation, but his own brains would get him killed too, and Superman would just rise from the ashes, again.
To me it seems like many of you are not even up on current DCU storyline (as many commented how Clark can't get the girl)...so please catch up before you argue! I may not know all the exact details, but the OMAC project is a huge part of the current DCU story.
sabrejimmy
Feb 03, 2007
I was thinking more like giant robots and such
I guess because he can do everything, he could beat Batman then, huh? Maybe we can all relate a little more to Batman, but this is about a physical fight.
Superman can easily use lasers out of range of kryptomite.
Batman has no powers that no one else could do- just technology that anyone could use.
pinkrabbit
Mar 11, 2007
you say this as if it is a popularity contest, it isnt. sure batman is cooler but superman would kick his ass any day superman has superstrenght so it wouldnt even contest in be contest t in hand to hand combat and if batman pulled out some kryptonite all superman would have to do iis fly away and throw a big rock at him. and about being a homo batman hangs out with f**kin robin all day and makes him wear tights so i dont know whis gayre but i think supermans had some action with lois lane and hangs out with some hot chicks in smallvile while batman is sliding down poles with a boy in spandex so now whos gay.
i dont blame you thouh you probably forgot about robin whern you wrote taht down
"No-one likes Superman. His uniform is completely homosexual"
In Seduction Of the Innocent the book against comics leveled it homosexual beam at two people Batman and Robin if looking gay is bad what is being gay
"Hes almost like a Nazi propaganda figure. 'Arians can fly, shoot lazers from their eyes and are indestructable. Deutschland!'"
Batman and superman are both modeled after the same bodytype and it isnt arian, its sothern german dark hair not blond. also during WWII both charicters were on a massive stop the Japanazis campaign with all batman and Superman comics running that on their covers
Superman's powers are formidable to say the least, among them are:
Super-strength, Super-speed and flight, Invulnerability, X-Ray Vision, Super-Hearing, Super-breath, Super-intellect.
The man can fly into outer space for goodness sake!
Batman is an ordinary man who has decided to fight crime with gadgets that he has created. He is the every-man, the average man, and the man with the best toys. While his intentions are noble, he could never withstand the awesome power of Superman. In fact if Batman were to stumble upon Superman and begin to fight him without his magical suit on, he would be squashed like a bug in a microsecond. Even if the fight were planned in a battle royal at Madison Square Gardens and Batman trained for the occasion for ten years he would still fail. Batman is no match for Superman by any stretch of the imagination. There is no contest, in a fight Superman would immerge victorious. As for Batman, failure is imminent.
juggernaut
Aug 01, 2007
crazychic17
Feb 27, 2008
superman4ever
May 12, 2008
every other villain has had kryptonite pretty much and they all got their ass kicked
This is the #1 best thing i have ever read on the internet. And i am not exaggerating.
Yes, Batman is a better hero, and he is also a hell of a lot cooler.
But this isn't about character. It's about a fight.
In which case, if he uses only his powers he can use at a distance, Superman wins. If he gets close enough for Batman's Kryptonite to work, he deserves to lose.
colbystaples
Mar 21, 2009
Im sticking with Superman.
It may sound crazy, but I think Batman would win. Lex Luther gets close, and he's a bald old man. Superman has every power in the world, but for some reason spends most of his time in comics and the movies getting his ass kicked for three fourths of the time, and then pulling off some mircale in the end.
For instnace, a fight with a giant octopus. After punching it for a long time, and getting tossed around, and beat up, it takes him a while to realize..hey I have lasers in my eyes.
Batman's fights have the same outcome. Scare the crap out of them, and kick ass from step A-Z. He never even gets touched.
Plus al he needs to do is bring a little Kryptonite, and superman will start crying.
Lets be honest... No-one likes Superman. His uniform is completely homosexual and his character is bland. He can do cool things, but he himslf is not cool - which is all-round not cool at all.
Hes almost like a Nazi propaganda figure. 'Arians can fly, shoot lazers from their eyes and are indestructable. Deutschland!'
Batman on the other hand is a badass goodguy. His batmobile probably kicks out 3000 Bhp. He knows ninjitsu, and he probably smokes weed in his batcave jamming to Jimi Hendrix.
This is about the fact that yes, Superman has laserbeam eyes, and yes, those laserbeam eyes would cut Batman in half.
Yes, he has laserbeam eyes, but too much of a wuss to use them. He needs to learn some martial arts.
incrediblybuilt
Jan 31, 2007
Superman gave Batman a kryptonite ring, so its realistic that he would use that in the fight.
But putting aside style, here's the thing. Superman has as huge and exploitable vulnerability that does matter in this argument. Batman would have Kryptonite and would use it to render Superman a mere mortal. Then, mano-a-mano - Bruce Wayne v. Clark Kent - Batman kick his arse, and take his girl.
thepunisher
Feb 01, 2007
bitterkitten
Feb 01, 2007
Not unaided of course - the point is that Batman uses his brain and not pure brawn in order to whup Clark, who's problem, Batman repeatedly states, is that he just rushes into situations assuming his powers will take care of everything.
dxnighthawk
Feb 01, 2007
passionfruit
Feb 01, 2007
Superman can run really fast, fly, see through walls, heat vision, and super strength. He's a fairly limited fellow, ok so his only weakness is a space rock, but come on. His arch enemy is a rich bald man, where as Batman's arch nemesis is a psychotic clown and his entire band of circus freaks.
Batman may be a human, but he's filthy, stinking, rich, the man can buy ANYTHING he wants. Plus when the costumes off Bruce Wayne is a suave, debonair, playboy who gets all the ladies and lives in a mansion with people doing whatever he'd like.
When Superman's very flamboyant costume is removed he's the nerdy reporter Clark Kent who lives on a farm with his parents. He can barely get the sassy Lois Lane to take a look his way.
Batman has The Bat Cave to do everything he needs to.
Superman has telephone booths, which now days are pretty obsolete.
Superman is like every other super hero, some poor freak who can't get a girl and is doing charity work with his generic powers and living with his family.
Batman is a rich guy who can buy any power he wants and lives on his own in a mansion with every woman at his whim. If Bruce Wayne really wanted to he could just go jump in some radioactive waste and become super.
Batman is a nightmare. Villains are afraid of him. *Superheroes* are terrified of him. Batman has made secret plans that detail how to take down every hero. He is a thinker. A manipulator. We all agree that he's smarter, but seriously, guys, next to Batman, Superman is a bloody dunce. I mean when opens his mouth to talk, Batman feels the room around him get stupider.
In this sense there would be no fight. If Batman wanted to, the question is not *if* Batman would destroy Superman, it's *how.* Whether it's Kryptonite, Magic, or his loved ones, Superman's weaknesses dangle out in the open, ripe for manipulation. The god would be twisted, disassembled, and broken, emotionally and psychologically, with Batman never even coming into view.
I went to GMU...funny, remember how they were competitive with the team that went on to be the NCAA champs? From where I stand, I think many were actually voting FOR GMU. But I suppose that is a different argument stream.
Superman lover Lois Lane: bookworm-ish reporter who is completely helpless and basically the definition of high maintenance.
Batman lovers (yes, plural!!) Catwoman, Silver St. Cloud, Wonder Woman: kick-ass chicks that are either equal rivals or allies to Batman and show off their ridiculous good looks in spandex whenever possible.
Need I mention that Batman even had a short stint with Lois Lane herself???
Basically, Batman romps all over Superman's ass in the lady department.
"Batman could never face the obstacles Superman encounters"
You mean like Lex Luther? Yeah, Batman doesn't worry too much about 65 year old bald millionaires kicking his ass all the time like Superman does.
thcipriani
Feb 03, 2007
Superman would have no enemy that could even compare if he weren't unbelievably stupid. He always seems to neglect the use of the one super-power that could get him out of whatever situation he's dimwittedly stumbled into. Beyond that there's Kryptonite. Kryptonite may be hard to get ahold of, but come on, Batman is a billionare! He could find it.
Furthermore, allow me to refer all of you to the graphic novel Batman: The Dark Knight Returns in which Batman kicks Superman's ass using strategy and then takes a dive and fakes his own death so that Superman will not come looking for him later.
My final point is the success of the Superhero's alter-egos. I think the only way to level a playing field for superheros is to look at how well they handle their private afairs. If we just take look at just Bruce Wayne vs. Clark Kent no one would side with Clark....he's a poindexter.
For all of these reasons (and many more) it is apparent to me that Batman beats Superman any day of the week.
winterbauval
Feb 03, 2007
Also, when Superman can't handle a situation and needs to be bailed out, who does he call every time? Batman. That's right folks, Batman has to come bail out the suposedly indestructable man.
Of course being the good guy, batman then explains what he's doing.
For those of you saying it's superman vs batman not batman + kryptonite, then that's stupid. Half of batman is his intelligence, preparation and his costume. Otherwise he's Bruce Wayne. It's like saying no one mentioned it being on earth, and on his home environment of krypton, then batman would still whup his ass because they will both only have human strength.
Every single time Bruce and Kent face off, Batman wins. It's just the way it always plays out. Superman is a hell of a fighter, but Batman thinks 5 or 6 steps ahead of him every time.
One of my favorite moments of the animated series is when Batman comments that he's ALWAYS carried Kryptonite in his utility belt, "just in case." That's just the kind of guy Batman is.
somerandomhobo
Feb 03, 2007
Superman's just a freak.
(Also, he looks kind of gay.)
Every single time hey have went up againt each other batman has won. From teh dark kinight returns, to the dark knight strikes back, to even when soem villian used batman's databse to take out teh entire JLA..
Plus you have to look at the differnces between teh two. Superman is the ulimte boy sscout. He's honest, caring, has a loving fmaily, and when you get down teh dula idnenty, he's clearly teh framboy fro kansas.
Now take Batman. he lies. he cheats. he is not above setting some huge trap for osmeone. he'll use every underhanded trick in teh book to win. He's the batman throgh and through. Bruce wayne only exists to hide his opertaions, but he's not bruce wayne. he's teh batman.
Take again teh dark knight returns that so mnay have brought up. He managed to set up a baby nuke to weaken spuerman, got the green arrow to shoot him with a kryponite arrow, and then got into som sort of exo skeleton and proocded to beat superman senceless,. he could have very easily killed superman, but instead used that as a reminder that Batman could beat him.
Suoperman may be strong and powerful, but he's not devious. Batman is, and he's proved time and time again he's got what it take sto take anyone out, including superman
Batman is a self made man. He makes all his gadgets himself, works out and trains to achieve his potential, and he doesn't even need powers!
willdesignforfood
Feb 05, 2007
The guy can also seemingly do anything; including turning back time, bullet proof, freeze breath, laser eyes, can run faster than a speeding bullet, etc. Personally, I need a super hero that I can relate to. Which is Batman.
Therefore it is meaningless to discuss who will win in a fight :).
However, who would you rather be, will become the key point of this argument.
Superman, with all the abilities he has, most of the time he is a shy reporter with ordinary pay and a romance with a not so attractive fellow colleague. ( as matter of fact, his love life is contradict to his innate physique. )
On the other hand, Badman, while he is not being a superhero who has all the awesome gadgets, he is still Bruce Wayne, the rich and famous good-will-doing business tycoon.
Yes, physically he is no match to superman, but then again, he does have a far more interesting romance then Superman does.
Remeber, it is not only Superman vs. Batman, it is also Bruce Wayne vs. Kirk Kent.
Christian Bale's Batman vs Brandon Routh's Superman in a first ever Last man Standing Match.
The bell rings and the match is underway.
(1) Supes - Strikes Batman with laserbeam eyes.
(2) Bats - Rolls out of the way and trys to strikes Supes with a dropkick.
(3)Supes - grabs batman in midair and throws him into the ringpost.
(4) Bats - gets up and throws a Kryptonite bat-a-rang at supes.
(5) Supes - Dodges and uses his superspeed to ram the batman in the corner.Supes then begins to choke Batman in the corner.
(6)Bats - notices the Kryptonite bat-a-rang flying back towards them and keeps Supes attention on him.
(Kryptonite bat-a-rang stabs Superman in the back and Supes begins to weaken)
(7) Bats - Bat-punches superman the sh*t out of Superman and pulls the bat-a-rang out and stabs him again this time breaking of the end , thus leaving a hugh chunk of Kryptonite in supes back.
(8) Lex Luthor appears out of nowhere with a steel Chair and hits superman in the head.
(10) Batman then bat-kicks lex and ties him up to the Ringpost. The makes a cell-phone call...Minutes later Alfed rolls up in a pepsi truck and opens the back which contains a Kryptonite cage. Alfred & batman throw supes in the cage and take out the remaining Kryptonite in his back and Alfred drives aways bring the weakened Superman back to the Batcave where he will remain forever locked in his
Kryptonite cage.
(11) Batman hands overLex to the police and Ref sounds the bell, making Batman The World Heavyweight Superhero Champion.
rubberducky
Jul 17, 2007
trikestealer
Mar 12, 2008
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superman4ever
May 12, 2008
excusemewtfrudoin
May 22, 2008
Batman would win in a fight because he would bring all those values into the fight. Superman is a stupid person who has an obvious weakness, like a cyclops. If superman is a cyclops, Batman is David (of David vs goliath) with a slingshot aimed at the eye this time.
Superman: Super hero with almost every power, still has hard time doing anything. Obviously because of need for plot. What I'm trying to say is he is also extremely lame if he needs all those powers and is still not able to blow the competition out of the water
Batman: Everything a man should be. Practically a messiah of all heroes. My personal Jesus.



