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Why you gotta hate on ninjas?
well, that's all pirates could use them for. but ninjas... one flick of the wrist, and One-Eye is now blind, 100 yards away. And tell me, how useful is a blind pirate??

deathboner
Feb 01, 2007
You don't hire Pirates to kill. They just kill. They're THAT tough.

bourbonhipster
Feb 01, 2007
Ninja don't need to show themselves. They follow the oath to secrecy and they don't boast..
ya.. an they rob kill and rape anyone that cross their path...even dogs....=(

scorpiel115
Feb 01, 2007
Where do I stand on ninjas versus pirates? I mean ninjas are trained badass stealth machines, while pirates are ruthless killers who live by no code. I say it all comes down to economic motivation - pirates are in it for the booty, and ninjas are just hired assassins.
PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE!

fireballems
Feb 01, 2007

palestine4life
Feb 01, 2007

atomic1fire
Feb 01, 2007

mintybreath
Feb 01, 2007

marc101010
Feb 02, 2007
This is because if you did, you would be dead already.

esuperchicken
Feb 02, 2007

luminaeris
Feb 02, 2007
Captain who again... Can't even kick Peter Pan's ( a kid in dreamland) butt. Let alone a ninja.....
Ninja Storm Power Rangers kick alien butt time and time again..

lonesomegoat
Feb 03, 2007
Now, as I understand ninjas, they are designed for covert and stealth activities. Therefore, regular civilians like you and me are completely unable to detect the presence of ninjas in modern society! Sure, everybody knows that there's still pirates around, because they're still loud drunk lawbreakers! However, I propose to you that ninjas are still around, live and healthy and HIDDEN.
Have you ever "lost" something that you could swear you remembered putting down just a few minutes ago? Ninjas took it. Ever thought you saw someone out of the corner of your eye but when you turned it was just a shadow? It was a ninja. Ever wake up at night feeling like someone is in your room? There is. It's a ninja.
Ninjas still exist in this world of advanced technology, but even GPS can't track ninjas!

winterbauval
Feb 03, 2007

killercoffee
Feb 03, 2007

killercoffee
Feb 03, 2007
They can see them, yes, but can they tell how far away they are? A signle eye isn't very good at judging depth.
Well, that just goes to prove how sneaky ninjas can be.
Oh, how the world has overlooked theninja, lying in the shadow's wake.
Besieds, you want a modern ninja? Lets go Splinter Cell, and like-type stealth and killing games. I mean, what more do you need to define a modern day ninja, aside from:
Striking from the Shadows.
Secrecy
Sword[or in the modern sense, a good solid knife. Swords are big and sometimes get in the way when sneaking]
Killing people professionally, qickly, and smoothly.
An honor code to follow orders to further what you believe in [i.e. kill the terrorrists]
etc.
This type if 'ninja', if you will, is glamourized in movies and video games and thriller novels every where. you may be thinking: "hey, this is just fiction" Well you never hear about them because thats how good they are at their job.
As much as i'd love to be a blackberry-wielding pirate-terrorist. I'd much rather be Couter-terrorism Field operative.
Anachronism? i say nay, for in fact we have the modern ninja, just under the facade of an Agent.
Do your research before you put down the ninja. On December 5th you will experience Day of the Ninja. And by experience I mean get shurikened for your ignorance of the ninja ways

beefyninja
Feb 04, 2007

beefyninja
Feb 04, 2007

thesilentninja
Feb 04, 2007
no no no

maxxstiles
Feb 05, 2007

shadyknife
Feb 05, 2007
the last samurai was about samurai, not ninja's. the two are completely different.
now,
pirates Vs ninja.
Ninja's win, im sorry you pirates, but it's the truth.
(sticking to plausable stuff eg. no flyin ninja's ect)
Pirate skills(assuming we have a pro pirate, and its around the year 1700 or whatever)
sword
musket
cannon
drunk
Ninja skills:
sword
knife
ninja stars
stealth
assassination
scenario 1. pirate finds sleeping ninja, ninja wakes because of pegleg and smoke bombs, pirate thinks "wtf!" and ninja sneaks around and kills
scenario 2. ninja finds sleeping pirate, stabs, pirate dies
scenario 3. pirate finds ninja's hideout, shoots cannon, the cannon makes big bang, ninja jumps out window, tracks pirate, waits until he sleeps, then bam.
ninja's own drunk pirates.

dantizzlemynizzle
Feb 06, 2007

infinitesaint
Feb 06, 2007

02andersonm
Feb 11, 2007
check out the real ninjas, ninjitsu. one of them could kick the sh*t out of 100 of you!, and yer thay have fun, there training involves endless amounts of sports, many extreme sports such as free falling and so on, if you want fun why dont you go and spend the week wiht the ninjas, and thay dont have to pay for there cinimar ticket... thay can ninja there way past the ticket inspector :)
is there an awesome online comic for pirates? eh? didnt think so.
Dr. McNInja baby.

right2write
Feb 14, 2007
This was a HILARIOUS argument!! But I must say that a sober ninja will beat a drunk pirate any day. The real test is who would win between a drunk ninja and a sober pirate?? Ahhhhhh!
I disagree....
Ninjas mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Pirates
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
Ninjas have numbers, too. There are plenty of them over at the ninja school, why wouldn't they help join in the fight? The pirate may only see one or two (that is, if the ninja lets himself be seen) but there could be dozens lurking around every corner, just waiting to jump out. But pirates aren't very good at hiding. What you see is what you get. On your second point, pirate's lack of morality seems more of a dissadvantage. Their main focus is usually treasure, killing is only a secondary task. And they WILL kill anyone that gets in the way of that lovely treasure chest, even a fellow pirate. Killing is the ninja's first priority, and nothing can get in his way. Even if the fight got tough, he would stay until the enemy was down. Pirates are always looking out for number one, and would flee if they thought the odds were against them. At this point, the ninja would chuck a few shuriken into his back.
Werent Pirates Booty Plunderers for hire under the brittish kingdom also known as Privateers and were payed by the queen to sink spanish ships and steal their gold because Enland couldnt make an armada

jewishninja
Mar 16, 2007
What, Players?
Most pirates couldn't get a babe if they wanted to. Which is why they had to rape and plunder all the time. I dunno about all you "pirates" out there, but raping isn't the same as getting ass.

jewishninja
Mar 16, 2007
thats stupid you think ninjas are bad for spying, steeling, and killing, while pirates killed, stole, raped women, and chaused general havec. Also, you group all ninjas together while you claim that not all pirates were bad. If a pirate wasnt bad than he wasnt a pirate. Unlike pirates there were good ninjas, even though an evil ninja would slaughter a good ninja
And people like you should be sent to elementary school, to learn how to spell. Someone earlier said that ninjas would be cool if they killed people more often. Lets look at the three main facts about ninjas.
1. Ninjas are mammals.
2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.
Ninjas FTW!

arthur7474
Aug 22, 2007
NINJAS ARE REAL... I know this because I AM A NINJA! my first point is pirates aint got nothing on ninjas....every one argues "pirates have guns" we can move so fast that by the time they touch there gun, there dead and have there bodies destroyed and cast into the yellow sea. Second the last samurai was a MOVIE. ITS NOT REAL. the only reason the Samurai won is because they cant kill tom cruise or else the plot will be worse than POWER RANGERS....
Ninjas have not died out, as you have said. Pirates have not gone unchanged; they have evolved to use the technology of today, furthering their efficiency. This is the case with ninjas, using the technology of today to further their skills and effectiveness. They have evolved from a standalone group of warriors into people who are spoken about in comics, Black Ops groups, and assassin agencies. There are many examples, but the best being these: Batman, Sam Fisher, and Agent 47.
All three were trained in the art of slipping in, silencing a few souls, and then sneaking back out. That is, in fundamentals, the very essence of the ninja arts. Ninjitsu is still being taught, also, though it is not common in the public channels. If you know the right people, like Bruce Wayne, you can get some training. So ninjas haven't died, they have just doen what they always do: dissappeared into the shadows.

hanaatthedisco
Feb 28, 2008

trikestealer
Apr 09, 2008

binkyninja
May 02, 2008
Has anyone heard of a butt ninja? no but a Butt Pirate? yes. NINJAS BABY!!!!!!!!
ninja are not masters of sea and air... just land neither pirates nor ninjas can fly, ninjas just jump... pirates are sea ninjas can not sneak well fast enough to catch up to a 15 to 20 knot pirate ship in a little boat so they wont be spotted
Woah, woah!
What ninja is a master of sea?
Pirates are indeed masters of air, they have cannons and parrots. :]
Also, pirates chase their victim around islands, spreading out until they eventually find them. Therefore, are conquerers of land.

joshuamikael
Jun 29, 2008
"...not bound by mortality..."
- - - -
Are we debating based on fantasy rules or reality? There's no such thing as supernatural pirates, but ninjas actually exist(ed).
If the debate calls for a serious answer, then the obvious one is ninjas.
Real ninjas can beat not-real pirates any day of the week.
Pirates have historically not been great fighters, generally they are a boat load of criminals that rape women and attack boats that have no defense. Pirates like those in the Pirates of the Carribean don't exist. Real pirates are spineless and only attack vessels with no defenses. A Ninja is highly trained, and they do sometimes work in groups, in fact small groups of Ninja's have historically taken out much larger true armies.

tookietookie
Jul 31, 2008

binkyninja
Aug 28, 2008
Except ninjas would never do that. They would go in navy SEAL style and plant charges on you ship under the cover of darkness and laugh while all the pirates drowned cause most pirates couldnt swim. Anyone smart enough to learn how to swim would be considered worthy of dying by the sword and would be stabbed as they tried to keep their head out of the water. Then the ninja would dissapear into the night, go back to whatever their incognito day job was and bone their hot asian girlfriends while drinking sake.
Seriously, like ninjas dont have sex or drink alchohal. Thats just silly. They do, but when they do they dont dress like ninjas! That wouldnt be very ninja of them if they did...like walking around with a big "I am ninja" sign in neon lights while on a mission.
Ninja vanish! *** POOF *** *gone*

frankiej4189
Sep 06, 2008
Pirates aren't actually 'rich' as if nowadays you are lucky to find their 'treasure' it would most likely be sugar etc.

crazykorean117
Dec 27, 2008

bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009

bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009

bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009

gisellapercy
Jan 12, 2009
Real ninjas do exist. It is a martial art which is great fun and helps people defend themselves and keep fit. Real pirates also exist. Piracy is a crime which hurts people and damages society.

lordofthelightning
Feb 23, 2009

lordofthelightning
Mar 01, 2009
Maddness?....This is Sparta!
No!, Just joking but "she" is kind of jumping the gun here, First I never said writing alot is nerdy but using magic as a point of value is...well...dumb (putting it nicely)! I gave a written apology for my anger to the normal ninja fans. If your not normal that's your problem.
Look it up before you say it's untrue type in "Deta 32". (I know you can do it!). I said "protects you from AIDS luckly, you've got to of had family from england in some parts to get the gene". In some parts of england not all! Only a few parts! Read damn you! Read! (I'll try and be clearer in the future!)
When I said "new age pirates" I was talking in the 2000 and on, last 9 years.
As for the spelling and grammer did you even read "inorih" statement holy sh*t! I said "While pirate fans aren't perfect they are (as "inorih" put it) "more cooler" and can at lest string a complete sentence togather and read." Where does grammer come into that ( but I think I should of noted that as well) or spelling! "not perfect" would implie making mistakes but not like that guy wow!
Who said anything about native americans? Where did that come from show me please?
I'm mixed with alot of cultures and I have the deta 32 gene (I got tested) I have family who served on black breads ship and on captain kidds and Black berts ship I come from a long line of sailers and pirates. Which I take pride in!
I try very hard to get the 100% truth about everything! If you are indeed a lady. I bid you well. Also this is a site for debate on ninjas versus pirates not you versus me. Ok!, So cool it! I'm not angry, Nor do I take offence! Just keep on topic. "Haul ass or host anchor!" As my grand father used to say!

colbystaples
Mar 21, 2009

calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.

calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.

calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.

unlabled00
Apr 02, 2009

colbystaples
Apr 21, 2009
actually nothing i said reffered to a pirate besides mentioning the plank. you do show a valid point of me saying that ninjas follow no code making them unorganized. But, lets take the punisher for example, he followed no code and he was very organized. Now im not saying that one side of this argument is more organized than the other. I'm actually persuaded that pirates and ninjas are equally organized. But still. im siding with ninjas, again.. oh and have you ever seen a picture of a pirate they all look the same and they're very detailed. Opposed to a ninja painting/drawing there's little detail because nobody actually knows what a ninja looks like, just a vague idea. They also look so different in each picture because there can be multiple "species" of ninjas. Making them extremely unique instead of being ordinarily unique like pirates.

lexadouble96
Feb 02, 2010

ninjaswim14
Mar 28, 2010
I think that you, sir, are confused. Ninja are not Samurai. Samurai operate under a code of honor known as Bushido. Ninjas have no such code. They are ruthless killers not bound by honor or morality, and often act as mercenaries. there are very few groups equal to Ninjas in morality (or lack-there-of)

ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010

ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010
Ninjas are healthy.
Thats why they dont drink.
Thats why they live longer.
THats why there not idiots.

ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010

ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010

opinionatedteen
May 11, 2010

deadperson95
Jun 19, 2010

forsakenuchiha
Jun 28, 2010
You are so ignorant lmfao. How do you get at ninja's being bound by morality codes? Are you serious? Do you know what a ninja is? He's an assassin! He does anything and everything up his sleeve to accomplish the mission. Their main tactic is basically guerrilla warfare. They come out of nowhere, and then dissapear. How does that show any morality codes? They strike their foes with every unsuspecting, cheap shot they have up their sleeves. Their techniques are based off of deception whether it is strategic, hand to hand, sword to sword, or any other element of combat possible. They spray shards of glass and ground pepper into their opponents eyes to gain an advantage! Please know what you're talking about before you speak; it will help you to be more knowledgeable before making a fool of yourself, whether in an argument or in life.
Ninja's are not knights, they do not spar their opponant on even grounds while upholding chivalric ideals. In fact, if you look into the reality of what knights did then you'll find that the vast majority were all but chivalric.

berryberrybanana
Jul 07, 2010

berryberrybanana
Jul 07, 2010

berryberrybanana
Jul 07, 2010
Ninjas have the advantage on land. I mean, you can't even see them until it's too late, and then you'll never see them because you have no head.
But on sea, pirates are dangerous. But a ninja could sneak on board. And pirates are too loud. Yell and say yar, and are usually drunk, so it is all ninja!
But on sea, pirates are dangerous. But a ninja could sneak on board. And pirates are too loud. Yell and say yar, and are usually drunk, so it is all ninja!
Real pirates are and were historically horrible people killing and stealing from innocent people. Ninjas were people fighting for what was right - their freedoms and families. And they are way hotter. (Johnny Depp is the exception)
they have throwing stars and no pirate could see that coming - especially with an eye patch.
Ninjas spend a lot of time training. When pirates only plunder "occassionally" as soberness permits. The sea is big, and doesn't have a lot of ships. So it's rare when you come across a ship, and when you do, it's rare if that ship is carrying booty. Also when you have a whole shipfull of other pirates helping out with the plunering and stabbing and whatnot, you can sit back, and not practice. Where ninjas are always practicing magic, throws, death blows, stars, powders, death, killing, slicing, etc.
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
Why you gotta hate on ninjas?
OH, come one people!! Obvious answer is the ninja. Not as "cool" as the pirate, but think about this way:
When you were a kid what did you want to be? Everyone I know wanted to be a ninja. GI Joe? No pirates there. Lot's of ninjas though.
Oh the countless number of Russians I killed in my backyard pretending I was a ninja.
How cool was it when your friend, or you yourself bought/made your first sharoken (spelling). And you threw it at some board until it had too many holes, or it accidentally hit your sister. Peter Pan fought pirates, but he wishes he was a ninja.
If you vote Pirate, I guess that means you enjoy downing a frosty with your blasphemous mates while checking out the chicks, ready to poke someone's eye out for looking too. Loser! Lazy bum! Get some discipline!! Become a ninja!
Rebuttal to:
lordofundead
well, that's all pirates could use them for. but ninjas... one flick of the wrist, and One-Eye is now blind, 100 yards away. And tell me, how useful is a blind pirate??
I don’t want to hear a word about pirates. Ninjas use stealth and cunning to gain advantage from any environment, this could conceivably be a pirate ship. One ninja could stow away on a pirate ship and off the whole crew in their drunken sleep. Also, as a pirate you have to scrub the deck and clean out the bilge, ninjas just retreat to a secluded zen garden and practice their craft, so ninjas are always ready for a battle. It’s skilled professionals vs mercenary rabble. No contest.
Chuck Norris is ninja. Jack Bauer is ninja.
deathboner
Feb 01, 2007
Rebuttal to:
anthuan
You don't hire Pirates to kill. They just kill. They're THAT tough.
Ninja, all you need is one. Pirates? You usually need a group to get that 'scare' effect. It's always easier to organize an activity for one, isn't it? The more people you have, the more choas, the more headache.
bourbonhipster
Feb 01, 2007
In ancient Japan, Samurais were the only ones allowed having swords. So if a Ninja wanted a sword, they had to steal one from a Samurai. The only problem was that Samurais always kept their swords with them. They even slept with them under their pillow.
So to get a sword, I Ninja had to sneak into a Samurais bedroom while the Samurai was sleeping, and slip it out from under their pillow.
So to get a sword, I Ninja had to sneak into a Samurais bedroom while the Samurai was sleeping, and slip it out from under their pillow.
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
Ninja don't need to show themselves. They follow the oath to secrecy and they don't boast..
Rebuttal to:
king
ya.. an they rob kill and rape anyone that cross their path...even dogs....=(
Wilbur,
While your arguments against the moral fiber of Ninjas are valid, I think they really miss the point. What's essential to the Ninja's ideological superiority over the pirate (notice, pirates don't even deserve capitalization) is that the Ninja always battles for some significant greater cause, whether it be sinister or benevolent. In other words, Ninjas have historically brandished the power to incite and promote larger movements.
It is near impossible, however, to find even a Hollywood (where heroism and villainy are so caricatured) pirate that has a greater purpose than boozing and looting in the immediate future - one could say that the pirate mentality is much like that of the basest animal, thoroughly unconcerned with anything beyond his immediate necessities. In short, the pirates lack the discipline and direction to create any sort of lasting impression, and will remain forever unorganized and, ultimately, easily forgotten.
While your arguments against the moral fiber of Ninjas are valid, I think they really miss the point. What's essential to the Ninja's ideological superiority over the pirate (notice, pirates don't even deserve capitalization) is that the Ninja always battles for some significant greater cause, whether it be sinister or benevolent. In other words, Ninjas have historically brandished the power to incite and promote larger movements.
It is near impossible, however, to find even a Hollywood (where heroism and villainy are so caricatured) pirate that has a greater purpose than boozing and looting in the immediate future - one could say that the pirate mentality is much like that of the basest animal, thoroughly unconcerned with anything beyond his immediate necessities. In short, the pirates lack the discipline and direction to create any sort of lasting impression, and will remain forever unorganized and, ultimately, easily forgotten.
Ninjas do in fact exist in the modern world. The ancient martial art of Ninjitsu (hence the term, "ninja") can be learned at many modern martial arts dojos all over the world. Furthermore, ninjas are pure, elemental forces. I've seen people at Ninjitsu class make buckets of water explode by clapping their hands. What do pirates have on that? Pirates are drunk, so drunk in fact that they think "booty" means treasure. How can you possibly side with a group of individuals that are so terribly misconstrued?
I think http://www.drmcninja.com puts it quite eloquently when dr mcninja (a ninja AND a doctor) trounces pirates on multiple occasions.
Am not a huge ninja fan, but c'mon, pirates have got to be weak and lacking nutrients after years at sea. Not even a fight.
Ninjas have better swords, more training, more discipline and aren't drunk all the time so they would definitely triumph over pirates. Besides, black is more stealthy. Pirates wear a lot of bling - making them both loud and shiny when they move around.
So, in conclusion, you can hear (and see) a pirate coming from miles away whereas a ninja would just sneak up, chop your head off and go and have a beer.
Ninjas rock. They can even look like a rock. See how good ninjas are?
So, in conclusion, you can hear (and see) a pirate coming from miles away whereas a ninja would just sneak up, chop your head off and go and have a beer.
Ninjas rock. They can even look like a rock. See how good ninjas are?
scorpiel115
Feb 01, 2007
It's inevitable that Pirates will eventually extinct. Because having females on the ship is bad luck. On the flip side, ninjas can mass populate on land while the pirates are out at sea. And when they come on land for their women and alcohol no doubt, Ninjas will ambush them.
Sorry pirates. Your Arghs wont live for too long.
Sorry pirates. Your Arghs wont live for too long.
Rebuttal to:
3rdlace
Where do I stand on ninjas versus pirates? I mean ninjas are trained badass stealth machines, while pirates are ruthless killers who live by no code. I say it all comes down to economic motivation - pirates are in it for the booty, and ninjas are just hired assassins.
PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE! PIRATES RULE!
fireballems
Feb 01, 2007
a ninja could easily sneak aboard a...no the ninja could and would pretend to be a pirate and befriend the crew. Then he would kill them all in their sleep.
also ninjas have better fashion sense. black is always in.
also ninjas have better fashion sense. black is always in.
palestine4life
Feb 01, 2007
how many pirates do you know can run through a blizzard with out touching a flake, or swim through a river of lava... at six weeks old?
thats right. none.
thats right. none.
atomic1fire
Feb 01, 2007
Pirates are on spongebob
Ninjas answer questions first
then kill
Ninjas answer questions first
then kill
mintybreath
Feb 01, 2007
ninja's have all kinda cool stuff.They can fly,disapper and know the ancient arts. What do pirates have? Eyepatches and parrots....scary..
marc101010
Feb 02, 2007
Uma Thurman would kick Johnny Depp's ass - it's Ninjas for me!
Is this a joke? Do people actually believe that a stupid ugly, smelly pirate with an average IQ of 3 could even be associated with the amazing Ninja?
Pirates are simply hooligans who steal things and might kill the odd person along the way. Ninjas are trained killing machines. One Ninja, no wait the toenail of one ninja could take out an entire pirate crew and sink their ship before anyone notices that anyone else is dead.
Pirates are simply hooligans who steal things and might kill the odd person along the way. Ninjas are trained killing machines. One Ninja, no wait the toenail of one ninja could take out an entire pirate crew and sink their ship before anyone notices that anyone else is dead.
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
This is because if you did, you would be dead already.
esuperchicken
Feb 02, 2007
How many ninjas died from not eating enough citrus? Ever hear about scurvy? nuf said.
How do you think pirates got those eyepatches and peglegs? Ninja's thats how, a slow way of punishing them for even considering that they are near a ninja in killing prowess. Do you know how hard it is for a ninja NOT to kill someone?
if you like pirates maybe you are a butt pirate?
luminaeris
Feb 02, 2007
pirates cant kick ninja butts - most pirates dont even have feet!
and ninjas dont have butts.
and ninjas dont have butts.
I'll agree with Ninjas, just because they seem cooler.
But really, arguing about them is stupid.
But really, arguing about them is stupid.
Rebuttal to:
veilrap
Captain who again... Can't even kick Peter Pan's ( a kid in dreamland) butt. Let alone a ninja.....
Ninja Storm Power Rangers kick alien butt time and time again..
lonesomegoat
Feb 03, 2007
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
Now, as I understand ninjas, they are designed for covert and stealth activities. Therefore, regular civilians like you and me are completely unable to detect the presence of ninjas in modern society! Sure, everybody knows that there's still pirates around, because they're still loud drunk lawbreakers! However, I propose to you that ninjas are still around, live and healthy and HIDDEN.
Have you ever "lost" something that you could swear you remembered putting down just a few minutes ago? Ninjas took it. Ever thought you saw someone out of the corner of your eye but when you turned it was just a shadow? It was a ninja. Ever wake up at night feeling like someone is in your room? There is. It's a ninja.
Ninjas still exist in this world of advanced technology, but even GPS can't track ninjas!
winterbauval
Feb 03, 2007
Seriously? This is under debate? Ninjas all the way. If you are ever in doubt, check askaninja.com
Do pirates have any awesome powers? no. Drunkeness does not count as a power. Do pirates defy physics? no.
Do pirates have any awesome powers? no. Drunkeness does not count as a power. Do pirates defy physics? no.
killercoffee
Feb 03, 2007
The problems with pirates is that they're so predictable. You see a ship without a flag, and surprise , pirates! The captain is always missing a leg and has an eyepatch. They wield cutlasses and guns. Hack, shoot, hack, shoot. Boooo-ring. Ninjas, meanwhile, are more spontaneous and exciting. You never know if that shadow over there is really a ninja...or is it the other one? Then they can kill you with shurikens, swords, ninjitsu, bombs, garrotes...the list is endless!
Also, pirates suck at fighting. Sure, they're okay with guns and they can swing a sword but in a weaponless fight ninas would win every time. Seriously.
Why trade all that for "Storm's a-brewin'", "Furl sails and ready the oars!" and, finally, "Five lashes, ye scurvy dog!"
Also, pirates suck at fighting. Sure, they're okay with guns and they can swing a sword but in a weaponless fight ninas would win every time. Seriously.
Why trade all that for "Storm's a-brewin'", "Furl sails and ready the oars!" and, finally, "Five lashes, ye scurvy dog!"
killercoffee
Feb 03, 2007
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
They can see them, yes, but can they tell how far away they are? A signle eye isn't very good at judging depth.
Ninja's are trained assassins, pirates are just drunk idiots. gg no re
First, I would like anyone to tell me the last time they have seen a pirate being awesome. Pirates being awesome is for movies. Otherwise pirates would be pwning us right now. However, have you ever seen a ninja be awesome? No? Exactly. That's because ninjas are too quick for the naked eye. I mean, you can see a pirate come up in front of you, but by the time you know a ninja is there, POOF. You're dead. And if a pirate kills someone, everyone knows about it in 20 minutes. If a ninja kills someone, everyone wonders "Where is (person's name goes here)? I haven't seen (him/her) in a while." Not even once do they suspect that it was a ninja. My final argument, however, is a ninja's apparel. I mean, come on. Is there anything cooler than that mask? Sure, an eye patch is cool, but how many times have to seen a guy who just got eye surgery walking around with an eye patch? I'm sure you've seen it at least twice in your life, whether you remember or not. But even if you go into the streets of New York City, you're mostlikely not going to see a man with a ninja's mask on. And if you do, run for your life because he's probably about to kill you. Therefore, ninjas must be better.
First off, pirates have no depth perception with that eye patch. While ninjas on the other hand have amazing reflexes, and are practically invisible. Pirates have swords and guns, but ninjas have a huge arsenal, including shurikens, staffs, sicles, and the list goes on and on.
It is simple, who is moral? and who is absolutely devoid of any shred of decency. Ninjas have an honour code but pirates are about mindless pillaging, raping and murder for the fun of it.
In today's society, Pirates have stooped down to illegally stealing and exporting goods (ie. DVDs) to be sold on the streets of Chinatowns across the globe; whereas Ninjas have perfected the art of stealth to the extent where even if they were to stand in front of us, we wouldn't notice them... until they kill us, but even then...
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
Well, that just goes to prove how sneaky ninjas can be.
Oh, how the world has overlooked theninja, lying in the shadow's wake.
Besieds, you want a modern ninja? Lets go Splinter Cell, and like-type stealth and killing games. I mean, what more do you need to define a modern day ninja, aside from:
Striking from the Shadows.
Secrecy
Sword[or in the modern sense, a good solid knife. Swords are big and sometimes get in the way when sneaking]
Killing people professionally, qickly, and smoothly.
An honor code to follow orders to further what you believe in [i.e. kill the terrorrists]
etc.
This type if 'ninja', if you will, is glamourized in movies and video games and thriller novels every where. you may be thinking: "hey, this is just fiction" Well you never hear about them because thats how good they are at their job.
As much as i'd love to be a blackberry-wielding pirate-terrorist. I'd much rather be Couter-terrorism Field operative.
Anachronism? i say nay, for in fact we have the modern ninja, just under the facade of an Agent.
Rebuttal to:
deathboner
Do your research before you put down the ninja. On December 5th you will experience Day of the Ninja. And by experience I mean get shurikened for your ignorance of the ninja ways
beefyninja
Feb 04, 2007
GUESS WHAT KIDS I PRACTICE NINJITSU. WHY DO NINJAS OWN PIRATES? BECAUSE NINJITSU STILL EXISTS AND PIRATES WITH SWORDS AND CANNONS DO NOT! PIRATES BLOW BECAUSE THESE DAYS THEY'RE REDUCED TO NOOBS SELLING COPYRIGHTED DVDS OVER THE INTERNET. PIRATES SUCK!
beefyninja
Feb 04, 2007
NINJAS LIKE ME ARE STILL AROUND KICKING ASS. PIRATES ARE NOT. THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE THE NINJAS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO STEALTH. THEY'RE IN THE MEDIA, MAN. THEY NEVER PUBLISH THE KILLINGS IN THE PAPER. PIRATES AND CANNONS ARE GONE BUT NINJAS WITH SNIPER RIFLES LASER SWORDS AND MACHINE GUNS ARE NOT.
Ninjas are well trained masters of the war arts . There is no way one Pirate can kill ninja . This sh*ts that Ninjas cant swim are not true . Swiming is one of the best training of the body . And i am sure one real ninja can kill pirate with easy
Need i say it? Ask a NinJa !
http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm
pirates don't have a cool site like this.
pirates are not totally cool nor do they totally flip out and kill everyone.
just read the testimonial
"Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window."
pirates don't have a cool site like this.
pirates are not totally cool nor do they totally flip out and kill everyone.
just read the testimonial
"Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window."
thesilentninja
Feb 04, 2007
I am a ninja, and I kick pirates ass all the time... in fact I just killed that sparrow guy, or at least he looked gay like that sparrow guy!
The last samurai just means that all the samurais are gone. The reason we never HEAR or SEE about ninjas is because well, they're NINJA'S!
They aren't meant to be seen or heard. This simply means that our modern day ninjas are a lot better at hiding and staying out of the media than their predecessor's.
Think about it the modern pirates are all over the media STEALING stuff. Ninjas? they just kill people.... in awesome ways.
not to mention that because of the ninjas intentional and deliberate qualities they make great doctors.
Cough* Dr. McNinja Cough*
anywho im convinced that ninjas are awesome. pirates are a bunch of drunks with missing body parrrrrrrrts. lol
They aren't meant to be seen or heard. This simply means that our modern day ninjas are a lot better at hiding and staying out of the media than their predecessor's.
Think about it the modern pirates are all over the media STEALING stuff. Ninjas? they just kill people.... in awesome ways.
not to mention that because of the ninjas intentional and deliberate qualities they make great doctors.
Cough* Dr. McNinja Cough*
anywho im convinced that ninjas are awesome. pirates are a bunch of drunks with missing body parrrrrrrrts. lol
A ninja's primary advantage over a pirate is depth perception. Pirates are usually drunk and almost always lack one eye. Without both eyes, accurate depth perception is impossible. Therefore it would be impossible for a pirate to dodge a throwing star or any other ninja attack.
On top of that, it is well known that Ninjas only attack at night as they are in disguise during the day. The only chance for a pirate victory would be to find where their secret meeting spot is and overwhelm them in sheer numbers and canon fire. Ninjas aren't terribly good at dodging bullets.
On top of that, it is well known that Ninjas only attack at night as they are in disguise during the day. The only chance for a pirate victory would be to find where their secret meeting spot is and overwhelm them in sheer numbers and canon fire. Ninjas aren't terribly good at dodging bullets.
Rebuttal to:
jaaaco
no no no
AAAARRRRGH!
Blime, I gots to say that I be a bleedin pirate, and I stand before ya as an old salt who had his arse kicked by a ninja. land lubber done chopped of me arm (that's where I got me hook), then a shoved me peg leg up me arse!
Blime, I gots to say that I be a bleedin pirate, and I stand before ya as an old salt who had his arse kicked by a ninja. land lubber done chopped of me arm (that's where I got me hook), then a shoved me peg leg up me arse!
maxxstiles
Feb 05, 2007
THERE WHERE SOME NINJAS THAT WERE PIRATES ON THE OUT SKIRTS OF TOKYO BAY. BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY PIRATE THAT WERE NINJAS.
AND PIRATES GET CAUGHT
NINJAS DONT
AND PIRATES GET CAUGHT
NINJAS DONT
shadyknife
Feb 05, 2007
Rebuttal to:
Wilbur
the last samurai was about samurai, not ninja's. the two are completely different.
now,
pirates Vs ninja.
Ninja's win, im sorry you pirates, but it's the truth.
(sticking to plausable stuff eg. no flyin ninja's ect)
Pirate skills(assuming we have a pro pirate, and its around the year 1700 or whatever)
sword
musket
cannon
drunk
Ninja skills:
sword
knife
ninja stars
stealth
assassination
scenario 1. pirate finds sleeping ninja, ninja wakes because of pegleg and smoke bombs, pirate thinks "wtf!" and ninja sneaks around and kills
scenario 2. ninja finds sleeping pirate, stabs, pirate dies
scenario 3. pirate finds ninja's hideout, shoots cannon, the cannon makes big bang, ninja jumps out window, tracks pirate, waits until he sleeps, then bam.
ninja's own drunk pirates.
dantizzlemynizzle
Feb 06, 2007
dude, pirates are sloppy drunks so right away ninjas would just take em out one by one
infinitesaint
Feb 06, 2007
There is a gym in Japan that trains people to be ninjas, so the idea that ninjas are gone from the world is invalidated. Not only that, but the pirates are too dumb and loud to notice a highly-trained ninja sneak behind and decapitate them!
02andersonm
Feb 11, 2007
check out the real ninjas, ninjitsu. one of them could kick the sh*t out of 100 of you!, and yer thay have fun, there training involves endless amounts of sports, many extreme sports such as free falling and so on, if you want fun why dont you go and spend the week wiht the ninjas, and thay dont have to pay for there cinimar ticket... thay can ninja there way past the ticket inspector :)
is there an awesome online comic for pirates? eh? didnt think so.
Dr. McNInja baby.
right2write
Feb 14, 2007
This was a HILARIOUS argument!! But I must say that a sober ninja will beat a drunk pirate any day. The real test is who would win between a drunk ninja and a sober pirate?? Ahhhhhh!
I disagree....
Ninjas mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Pirates
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........
Ninjas have numbers, too. There are plenty of them over at the ninja school, why wouldn't they help join in the fight? The pirate may only see one or two (that is, if the ninja lets himself be seen) but there could be dozens lurking around every corner, just waiting to jump out. But pirates aren't very good at hiding. What you see is what you get. On your second point, pirate's lack of morality seems more of a dissadvantage. Their main focus is usually treasure, killing is only a secondary task. And they WILL kill anyone that gets in the way of that lovely treasure chest, even a fellow pirate. Killing is the ninja's first priority, and nothing can get in his way. Even if the fight got tough, he would stay until the enemy was down. Pirates are always looking out for number one, and would flee if they thought the odds were against them. At this point, the ninja would chuck a few shuriken into his back.
Of course Ninja's would win. They are about staying hidden and quick killing.
Pirates are just drunks who own a ship and don't want to pay for junk. I'm really impressed.
Pirates are just drunks who own a ship and don't want to pay for junk. I'm really impressed.
Werent Pirates Booty Plunderers for hire under the brittish kingdom also known as Privateers and were payed by the queen to sink spanish ships and steal their gold because Enland couldnt make an armada
You Pirate supporters are all the same "Pirates have Guns they will Kill the Ninjas" well Ninja used Flintlock guns imported from Portugal and they also used gunpowder bombs and especially poison that means they kill the pansy pirates without going onto the boat what are you going to do when your tired and sweaty from being familiar with the cabin boy and all your fresh water is laced with cyanide and you cant go anywhere for water because its three days to the next port and desalinization hasent been invented yet? Try and shoot your silly cannons at poison.
jewishninja
Mar 16, 2007
What, Players?
Most pirates couldn't get a babe if they wanted to. Which is why they had to rape and plunder all the time. I dunno about all you "pirates" out there, but raping isn't the same as getting ass.
jewishninja
Mar 16, 2007
In all honesty, I would rather be in the company of ninjas than pirates.
Pirates were nefarious for killing their own, especially the captains!
As for Ninja's, they cared more for the others in the 'clan' than anyone else.
Only if you weren't a ninja should be you afraid to be killed for absolutly no reason.
Pirates were nefarious for killing their own, especially the captains!
As for Ninja's, they cared more for the others in the 'clan' than anyone else.
Only if you weren't a ninja should be you afraid to be killed for absolutly no reason.
Do you ever remember seeing Teenage Mutant Pirate Turtles?
I certainly don't, I only remember Teenage Mutant NINJA Turtles.
I certainly don't, I only remember Teenage Mutant NINJA Turtles.
Heres a script from www.realultimatepower.net
The Pirate Dance
SCENE 1:
The scene opens up with some soft annoying music to get the audience super pissed. The camera will show a bunch of pirates eating chicken buttholes. Fortunately, a ninja sees everything and realizes what a bunch of bull crap it is. So this one ninja walks up to them and is like, “Yo what’s your problem?” The camera zooms directly on a pirate’s mouth, which states “Get out of here now.” and buttholes fall all over the silverware. Then the camera cuts to the ninja’s mouth with says “No,” but nothing gross happens. The audience then sees ninja pull out a huge guitar which is really medium sized and wails. But the pirates don’t explode, they start to dance.........hard, harder than the hardest blackest boner alive. And when they dance, the pirates look like a bunch of crabby and stupid moms. Everybody in the entire world craps their pants laughing at the pure stupidity of the pirates. But the ninja has A.D.D. and starts losing energy/power and the pirates start stopping dancing. (There will be some suspense filled violins and guitars playing so that the audience gets scared and/or pumped-scared.) In several motions, the pirates come toward the ninja. BUT, out of nowhere this bad ass lake appears and a huge hippo busts out of it hard. Water sprays everywhere, including the pirates’ shirts (which causes their boobs to barely appear through their shirts). Most pirates are like “This can’t be happening!” The hippo says “Guess what, it is.” and slaps five with ninja pretty hard. And the ninja says “let’s rock brother.” They both pull out expensive guitars and start wailing on them really really hard. Since the ninja can’t concentrate, the hippo thoughtfully guides his hand, because they are blood brothers till the end of time and space. Then the pirates all morph into this tiny diaper and the hippo and ninja morph into a super poop-filled baby that takes the biggest frigg’n dump in the pirate/diaper. The pirates’ scream turns into a crap-gargle (this will make audience laugh gregariously). The ninja's A.D.D. heals and the two buddies/brothers smoke cigarettes and get ice-cream and pop, which they enjoy a lot.
The End
-I don’t know how anybody can tolerate pirates after reading this stuff.
The Pirate Dance
SCENE 1:
The scene opens up with some soft annoying music to get the audience super pissed. The camera will show a bunch of pirates eating chicken buttholes. Fortunately, a ninja sees everything and realizes what a bunch of bull crap it is. So this one ninja walks up to them and is like, “Yo what’s your problem?” The camera zooms directly on a pirate’s mouth, which states “Get out of here now.” and buttholes fall all over the silverware. Then the camera cuts to the ninja’s mouth with says “No,” but nothing gross happens. The audience then sees ninja pull out a huge guitar which is really medium sized and wails. But the pirates don’t explode, they start to dance.........hard, harder than the hardest blackest boner alive. And when they dance, the pirates look like a bunch of crabby and stupid moms. Everybody in the entire world craps their pants laughing at the pure stupidity of the pirates. But the ninja has A.D.D. and starts losing energy/power and the pirates start stopping dancing. (There will be some suspense filled violins and guitars playing so that the audience gets scared and/or pumped-scared.) In several motions, the pirates come toward the ninja. BUT, out of nowhere this bad ass lake appears and a huge hippo busts out of it hard. Water sprays everywhere, including the pirates’ shirts (which causes their boobs to barely appear through their shirts). Most pirates are like “This can’t be happening!” The hippo says “Guess what, it is.” and slaps five with ninja pretty hard. And the ninja says “let’s rock brother.” They both pull out expensive guitars and start wailing on them really really hard. Since the ninja can’t concentrate, the hippo thoughtfully guides his hand, because they are blood brothers till the end of time and space. Then the pirates all morph into this tiny diaper and the hippo and ninja morph into a super poop-filled baby that takes the biggest frigg’n dump in the pirate/diaper. The pirates’ scream turns into a crap-gargle (this will make audience laugh gregariously). The ninja's A.D.D. heals and the two buddies/brothers smoke cigarettes and get ice-cream and pop, which they enjoy a lot.
The End
-I don’t know how anybody can tolerate pirates after reading this stuff.
thats stupid you think ninjas are bad for spying, steeling, and killing, while pirates killed, stole, raped women, and chaused general havec. Also, you group all ninjas together while you claim that not all pirates were bad. If a pirate wasnt bad than he wasnt a pirate. Unlike pirates there were good ninjas, even though an evil ninja would slaughter a good ninja
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And people like you should be sent to elementary school, to learn how to spell. Someone earlier said that ninjas would be cool if they killed people more often. Lets look at the three main facts about ninjas.
1. Ninjas are mammals.
2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people.
Ninjas FTW!
arthur7474
Aug 22, 2007
NINJAS ARE REAL... I know this because I AM A NINJA! my first point is pirates aint got nothing on ninjas....every one argues "pirates have guns" we can move so fast that by the time they touch there gun, there dead and have there bodies destroyed and cast into the yellow sea. Second the last samurai was a MOVIE. ITS NOT REAL. the only reason the Samurai won is because they cant kill tom cruise or else the plot will be worse than POWER RANGERS....
What's a dumb, one-eyed, one-legged, drunken man with scurvy and halitosis conditioned to run no farther than the length of a ship going to do against anyone, really?
go ninja go!
Ninjas have not died out, as you have said. Pirates have not gone unchanged; they have evolved to use the technology of today, furthering their efficiency. This is the case with ninjas, using the technology of today to further their skills and effectiveness. They have evolved from a standalone group of warriors into people who are spoken about in comics, Black Ops groups, and assassin agencies. There are many examples, but the best being these: Batman, Sam Fisher, and Agent 47.
All three were trained in the art of slipping in, silencing a few souls, and then sneaking back out. That is, in fundamentals, the very essence of the ninja arts. Ninjitsu is still being taught, also, though it is not common in the public channels. If you know the right people, like Bruce Wayne, you can get some training. So ninjas haven't died, they have just doen what they always do: dissappeared into the shadows.
hanaatthedisco
Feb 28, 2008
I would have to say ninjas on this one. Naruto, guys!! And ninjas have more amazing skills. I think being a pirate would get a bit dull after a while. Plus you have to be on a boat. And boats can't go on land. Yet ninjas can. Ninjas just win this debate.
Ninjas trained to use weapons efficiently. Pirates? Not so much.
Pirates have been known to suffer great defeats at the hands of their enemies (other pirates or various navies). When was the last time you heard of a Ninja getting his ass kicked????
trikestealer
Apr 09, 2008
Ninjas are much more bad ass then pirates. I mean pirates are not even sneaky they just hunt for treasure on sing songs. While ninjas are so legit because they are stealth at the max and can enter and kill someone without even knowing. They are the modern day navy seals, but with no guns.
Ninjas are toltally gonna kick pirates ass so get ready and prepare to be sunked by the ninjas :D xxx
Ninja's hands down win this one. Take a survery of children and see who most would rather be, its easily ninjas. Ninja's are much faster and could run circles around pirates. Pirates have a sword but could not even get it close to a ninja becaus ninja's are awesome
binkyninja
May 02, 2008
Has anyone heard of a butt ninja? no but a Butt Pirate? yes. NINJAS BABY!!!!!!!!
ninja are not masters of sea and air... just land neither pirates nor ninjas can fly, ninjas just jump... pirates are sea ninjas can not sneak well fast enough to catch up to a 15 to 20 knot pirate ship in a little boat so they wont be spotted
Ninjas aren't lazy and one on one a pirate would get beat simply because he probably would be drunk!
Woah, woah!
What ninja is a master of sea?
Pirates are indeed masters of air, they have cannons and parrots. :]
Also, pirates chase their victim around islands, spreading out until they eventually find them. Therefore, are conquerers of land.
ninjas.
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joshuamikael
Jun 29, 2008
"...not bound by mortality..."
- - - -
Are we debating based on fantasy rules or reality? There's no such thing as supernatural pirates, but ninjas actually exist(ed).
If the debate calls for a serious answer, then the obvious one is ninjas.
Real ninjas can beat not-real pirates any day of the week.
Pirates have historically not been great fighters, generally they are a boat load of criminals that rape women and attack boats that have no defense. Pirates like those in the Pirates of the Carribean don't exist. Real pirates are spineless and only attack vessels with no defenses. A Ninja is highly trained, and they do sometimes work in groups, in fact small groups of Ninja's have historically taken out much larger true armies.
tookietookie
Jul 31, 2008
contrary to popular belief, ninjas can swim. faster than a pirate ship in fact. hell, if they wanted they could run across the water sink the pirate ship with their swords.
Pirates are just so filthy and slow. even if pirates were dominent (which they aren't) who would be one. i mean you would never get the chicks... ever. and i'm beginning to think that they don't wan't the chicks if they're willing to spend so damn long on a ship with dozens of other guys.
Pirates are just so filthy and slow. even if pirates were dominent (which they aren't) who would be one. i mean you would never get the chicks... ever. and i'm beginning to think that they don't wan't the chicks if they're willing to spend so damn long on a ship with dozens of other guys.
ninjas are more cooler than pirates i mean, on the way they dress, theyre fighting styles are way better than the pirates. On the other hand, pirates being filthy and unwell organized are more likely to slack off instead of practicing and improving theyre way of living unlike the ninjas!
binkyninja
Aug 28, 2008
-Ninjas are better than pirates
-Ninjas have the advantage in almost every situation
-Yes Pirates have guns.. but 90% of the time they are too drunk to aim them correctly
-Pirates raped, pillaged, and for the most part only attacked the helpless.. Whereas Ninjas are more honorable fighters
-Pirates stink terribly and are loud and annoying
-Ninjas could live in your house for days without your knowledge
-Pirates cast a large shadow because they are fat
-Ninjas can remove their shadows if need be.
-GO NINJAS!!! NINJA DAY IS ON DECEMBER 5TH!!
-Ninjas have the advantage in almost every situation
-Yes Pirates have guns.. but 90% of the time they are too drunk to aim them correctly
-Pirates raped, pillaged, and for the most part only attacked the helpless.. Whereas Ninjas are more honorable fighters
-Pirates stink terribly and are loud and annoying
-Ninjas could live in your house for days without your knowledge
-Pirates cast a large shadow because they are fat
-Ninjas can remove their shadows if need be.
-GO NINJAS!!! NINJA DAY IS ON DECEMBER 5TH!!
Except ninjas would never do that. They would go in navy SEAL style and plant charges on you ship under the cover of darkness and laugh while all the pirates drowned cause most pirates couldnt swim. Anyone smart enough to learn how to swim would be considered worthy of dying by the sword and would be stabbed as they tried to keep their head out of the water. Then the ninja would dissapear into the night, go back to whatever their incognito day job was and bone their hot asian girlfriends while drinking sake.
Seriously, like ninjas dont have sex or drink alchohal. Thats just silly. They do, but when they do they dont dress like ninjas! That wouldnt be very ninja of them if they did...like walking around with a big "I am ninja" sign in neon lights while on a mission.
Ninja vanish! *** POOF *** *gone*
frankiej4189
Sep 06, 2008
Pirates are drunk, unwashed bafoons. What ninja would lose in a fight to a pirate? Maybe Beverly Hills Ninja (Chris Farley to all you youngins)
Pirates aren't actually 'rich' as if nowadays you are lucky to find their 'treasure' it would most likely be sugar etc.
crazykorean117
Dec 27, 2008
you wont even know your dead when a ninja comes and kills ya. and you wont even know that ninja was right in front of you for hours... as for a pirate, he'll be screaming his head off when coming at you, and he will probably smell of alchol or worse...
bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009
Although this has doesn't help whatsoever NARUTO SHIPPUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009
Although this has doesn't help whatsoever NARUTO SHIPPUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bjbondfire
Jan 09, 2009
Although this has doesn't help whatsoever NARUTO SHIPPUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gisellapercy
Jan 12, 2009
Real ninjas do exist. It is a martial art which is great fun and helps people defend themselves and keep fit. Real pirates also exist. Piracy is a crime which hurts people and damages society.
Ninjas will easily own Pirates.
1. Pirates are un-fit, unhealthy, and are drunkards while Ninjas are swift, fast, fit, and actually fully concious.
2. Pirates will most probably be too drunk to realize that the ninjas are there as ninjas can camouflage in the darkness.
3. All pirates can do is swing a knife while ninjas can dodge those, do flips, good throwing skills, and they can easily kill a pirate with their weapons as pirates will not be able to dodge like they do.
4. Being in the sea the whole time, pirates will be in no condition to fight, i mean sure they have no rules, but ninjas rules are not a disadvantage.
IN conclusion
Ninjas are epic win
1. Pirates are un-fit, unhealthy, and are drunkards while Ninjas are swift, fast, fit, and actually fully concious.
2. Pirates will most probably be too drunk to realize that the ninjas are there as ninjas can camouflage in the darkness.
3. All pirates can do is swing a knife while ninjas can dodge those, do flips, good throwing skills, and they can easily kill a pirate with their weapons as pirates will not be able to dodge like they do.
4. Being in the sea the whole time, pirates will be in no condition to fight, i mean sure they have no rules, but ninjas rules are not a disadvantage.
IN conclusion
Ninjas are epic win
lordofthelightning
Feb 23, 2009
lordofthelightning
Mar 01, 2009
Maddness?....This is Sparta!
No!, Just joking but "she" is kind of jumping the gun here, First I never said writing alot is nerdy but using magic as a point of value is...well...dumb (putting it nicely)! I gave a written apology for my anger to the normal ninja fans. If your not normal that's your problem.
Look it up before you say it's untrue type in "Deta 32". (I know you can do it!). I said "protects you from AIDS luckly, you've got to of had family from england in some parts to get the gene". In some parts of england not all! Only a few parts! Read damn you! Read! (I'll try and be clearer in the future!)
When I said "new age pirates" I was talking in the 2000 and on, last 9 years.
As for the spelling and grammer did you even read "inorih" statement holy sh*t! I said "While pirate fans aren't perfect they are (as "inorih" put it) "more cooler" and can at lest string a complete sentence togather and read." Where does grammer come into that ( but I think I should of noted that as well) or spelling! "not perfect" would implie making mistakes but not like that guy wow!
Who said anything about native americans? Where did that come from show me please?
I'm mixed with alot of cultures and I have the deta 32 gene (I got tested) I have family who served on black breads ship and on captain kidds and Black berts ship I come from a long line of sailers and pirates. Which I take pride in!
I try very hard to get the 100% truth about everything! If you are indeed a lady. I bid you well. Also this is a site for debate on ninjas versus pirates not you versus me. Ok!, So cool it! I'm not angry, Nor do I take offence! Just keep on topic. "Haul ass or host anchor!" As my grand father used to say!
sure pirates are skilled with swords and such, but so are ninjas. plus, ninjas have the advantage, they're skilled not to be noticed and able to camouflage themselves, which gives them the advantage. ninja rules. and ninjas are not low lives like pirates... hehe
colbystaples
Mar 21, 2009
Alright you f**kface pirate lovers, for one ninjas are the ultimate badasses of all time. And skrew numbers when you could work in solitude killing any amount of peopleat anytime, for any reason because you have no consiquences. And if by some 1 and and infinite chance a ninja was spotted, theres no way that ninja would settle for walking off of a f**king two by four. Ninjas dont necessarily have a code that they're binded to either, a true ninja has no limits and will do as he pleases. I'll agree with someone who noted that a ninja doesn't boast about being a ninja. Ninjas have far more developed brains then a pirate or anyone for that matter. Therefore there thinking process is mapped out in a way so that they already know the outcome of every situation. Yet, that does not make them in any way predictable by any means. They are trained killers and are not to be f****d with. end of discussion.
calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.
calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.
calebchaos
Mar 25, 2009
Whao wait a second.
The Samurai were the most honorable fighters ever. Swords and armour apst down from hundreds of generations. If the were defeated in battle they killed themselves, because they
were not worthy. Correct me if im wrong, but Id say Ninja's f**k sh*t up.
unlabled00
Apr 02, 2009
colbystaples
Apr 21, 2009
actually nothing i said reffered to a pirate besides mentioning the plank. you do show a valid point of me saying that ninjas follow no code making them unorganized. But, lets take the punisher for example, he followed no code and he was very organized. Now im not saying that one side of this argument is more organized than the other. I'm actually persuaded that pirates and ninjas are equally organized. But still. im siding with ninjas, again.. oh and have you ever seen a picture of a pirate they all look the same and they're very detailed. Opposed to a ninja painting/drawing there's little detail because nobody actually knows what a ninja looks like, just a vague idea. They also look so different in each picture because there can be multiple "species" of ninjas. Making them extremely unique instead of being ordinarily unique like pirates.
Ninja's are awesome!! Yay!!!
Their sneaky and way better then smelly 'ol pirates!!
Pirates wouldn't be able to react fast enough before a ninja killed 'em!!
GO NINJAS!!!! |:|= --Ninja!!
Their sneaky and way better then smelly 'ol pirates!!
Pirates wouldn't be able to react fast enough before a ninja killed 'em!!
GO NINJAS!!!! |:|= --Ninja!!
its all about practicality, efficiency, money and honur.
ninjas are full of each while pirates just want money, which they spend frivilously
ninjas are full of each while pirates just want money, which they spend frivilously
pirates would for sure be down for the count when a ninja is around, the ninja simply slips into the shadows of darkness while the pirates get more and more wasted, leaving them more and more vulnerable to die a terrible death,
how can pirates even defend themselves after their drunken indulgence.
the ninja owns in this situation, for they simple backstab,slit their throats from behind,.......one by one.
later.
how can pirates even defend themselves after their drunken indulgence.
the ninja owns in this situation, for they simple backstab,slit their throats from behind,.......one by one.
later.
lexadouble96
Feb 02, 2010
Ninjas r too fast and sick 4 pirates
According to me, this one is a sitter. There shouldn't be any debate about it at all! The Ninja is the outright winner. Let me clearly articulate as to why I made such a one-sided opinion so quickly :
Point Number 1 : The history of the Ninja is quite interesting. The Ninja were none other than simple farmers who were oppressed by their feudal lords. Years of oppression and dominance of the Samurai over these simple Japanese peasants induced a sense of wrath and vengeance in their blood. Pirates on the other hand, were people who were fed by greed. There is no doubt that the pirates are good warriors, but they lack as strong a motive as the Ninja
Point number 2 : The Ninja warrior is a trained assassin. He is more disciplined than the pirate who would rather spend his time in drunken revelry. And when it comes to a battle, it is an unquestionable fact that the one with the greater discipline has the advantage.
Point number 3 : Yes, yes, I know that the pirate possesses firearms. But the ninja is a person who is trained to use the environment to his advantage. He will never attack in broad daylight. He is intelligent enough to know that his brains would be blown off if he came face to face with a pirate with a gun in his hand. He will attack at night. And he will slash the throat of the pirate before he can say "Parley"!!!
Point Number 1 : The history of the Ninja is quite interesting. The Ninja were none other than simple farmers who were oppressed by their feudal lords. Years of oppression and dominance of the Samurai over these simple Japanese peasants induced a sense of wrath and vengeance in their blood. Pirates on the other hand, were people who were fed by greed. There is no doubt that the pirates are good warriors, but they lack as strong a motive as the Ninja
Point number 2 : The Ninja warrior is a trained assassin. He is more disciplined than the pirate who would rather spend his time in drunken revelry. And when it comes to a battle, it is an unquestionable fact that the one with the greater discipline has the advantage.
Point number 3 : Yes, yes, I know that the pirate possesses firearms. But the ninja is a person who is trained to use the environment to his advantage. He will never attack in broad daylight. He is intelligent enough to know that his brains would be blown off if he came face to face with a pirate with a gun in his hand. He will attack at night. And he will slash the throat of the pirate before he can say "Parley"!!!
Ninjas can Win because they are trained unlike for pirates they take a sword and the one that has more musckes win, Ninajas care about stealth and assasinations
Peter Pan was a ninja, and he defeated Captain Hook.
And pirates are lousy with swords.
Really.
And pirates are lousy with swords.
Really.
Urban Ninja nuff said
Once, I was in Osaka Japan. There is a small neighborhood called Little America. It's kind of the opposite of Little China here in the states.
The thing about Little America is that it smells really bad especially in the summer when trash is rotting.
Anyway, one night I was walking down the street when suddenly I noticed something strange. There was no rank smell. Then, Suddenly it was back.
It wasn't until some time later that I realized it was actually a ninja's anti-smell that was covering up the smell of the trash. See normally Ninjas attack in the dark, so their biggest weakness is their smell. So some industrious ninja found a way to make themselves smell invisible. But, it makes other things nearby smell invisible as well.
What is the lesson here?
The only warning you will get when a ninja is around is the lack of a warning.
The thing about Little America is that it smells really bad especially in the summer when trash is rotting.
Anyway, one night I was walking down the street when suddenly I noticed something strange. There was no rank smell. Then, Suddenly it was back.
It wasn't until some time later that I realized it was actually a ninja's anti-smell that was covering up the smell of the trash. See normally Ninjas attack in the dark, so their biggest weakness is their smell. So some industrious ninja found a way to make themselves smell invisible. But, it makes other things nearby smell invisible as well.
What is the lesson here?
The only warning you will get when a ninja is around is the lack of a warning.
First of all, people using arguments like "Chuck Norris is on our side" and "pirates are so ****ing awesome cause they rock, blah blah blah" are doing more damage than good. Arguments like that don't make someone want to agree with you.
That being said, let me clear some things up.
1. For all you "Ninjas aren't real" people, have you ever heard of Ninjitsu? Oh, you have? Are you aware that it's still practiced today? Ninjitsu is not a dead art form, and neither are ninjas.
2. Samurais are NOT ninjas, nor do ninjas wear any heavy armor. Ninjas were originally poor farmers who were oppressed by the samurai and had to use their surroundings and the element of surprise to compete with all that armor. Weapons like shurikens were developed because these poor farmers weren't allowed any weapons. They had to use their farming tools to revolt. Furthermore, the shurikens were only used to create distractions so they could more easily get a kill. "What a p*ssy, striking from behind" you might say, but a poor farmer with a grain-harvesting scythe doesn't stand a chance against a fully armored samurai trained to use a katana, and the ninjas knew it. So, in order to defeat the samurai, surprise was their only chance.
3. 1v1, ninjas win, hands down, and you pirate lovers can't deny that. "The pirate would just shoot the ninja. gg" Not so, my friend. You can't shoot what you can't see, and ninjas use smokescreens to virtually disappear. And, while in said smokescreen, they are completely silent and the pirate would be unaware of their position until it's too late.
4. Naval battles go to the pirates, and I can admit that. But land belongs to the ninjas. And what happens when a ninja sneaks on board a pirate ship? Every pirate is in for a visit to Davy Jones' Locker, before they even know the ninja is there.
5. Ninjas don't kill/rape/plunder just for the hell of it. They only take out the targets they need to, and do so to serve a higher purpose, like eliminating a threat on a city or something. Pirates kill/rape/plunder for their own personal gain and to fill only their immediate needs.
Also notice: I have not made one slam on a pirate's drunkenness or lack of limbs, because I will admit not every pirate fits that stereotype. But even with a fully functioning body, a pirate is no match for the skill of the ninja.
Case closed
That being said, let me clear some things up.
1. For all you "Ninjas aren't real" people, have you ever heard of Ninjitsu? Oh, you have? Are you aware that it's still practiced today? Ninjitsu is not a dead art form, and neither are ninjas.
2. Samurais are NOT ninjas, nor do ninjas wear any heavy armor. Ninjas were originally poor farmers who were oppressed by the samurai and had to use their surroundings and the element of surprise to compete with all that armor. Weapons like shurikens were developed because these poor farmers weren't allowed any weapons. They had to use their farming tools to revolt. Furthermore, the shurikens were only used to create distractions so they could more easily get a kill. "What a p*ssy, striking from behind" you might say, but a poor farmer with a grain-harvesting scythe doesn't stand a chance against a fully armored samurai trained to use a katana, and the ninjas knew it. So, in order to defeat the samurai, surprise was their only chance.
3. 1v1, ninjas win, hands down, and you pirate lovers can't deny that. "The pirate would just shoot the ninja. gg" Not so, my friend. You can't shoot what you can't see, and ninjas use smokescreens to virtually disappear. And, while in said smokescreen, they are completely silent and the pirate would be unaware of their position until it's too late.
4. Naval battles go to the pirates, and I can admit that. But land belongs to the ninjas. And what happens when a ninja sneaks on board a pirate ship? Every pirate is in for a visit to Davy Jones' Locker, before they even know the ninja is there.
5. Ninjas don't kill/rape/plunder just for the hell of it. They only take out the targets they need to, and do so to serve a higher purpose, like eliminating a threat on a city or something. Pirates kill/rape/plunder for their own personal gain and to fill only their immediate needs.
Also notice: I have not made one slam on a pirate's drunkenness or lack of limbs, because I will admit not every pirate fits that stereotype. But even with a fully functioning body, a pirate is no match for the skill of the ninja.
Case closed
ninjaswim14
Mar 28, 2010
I think that you, sir, are confused. Ninja are not Samurai. Samurai operate under a code of honor known as Bushido. Ninjas have no such code. They are ruthless killers not bound by honor or morality, and often act as mercenaries. there are very few groups equal to Ninjas in morality (or lack-there-of)
ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010
1. Pirates only use swords and guns. Ninjas use swrods, body, and magic!
2. Read this, I copied it from a web:
Ninjas are more bad ass than pirates!
Ninjas have better hygiene, and they are less wasteful.
Ninjas always put the toilet seat down and wash their hands after going to the bathroom.
Ninjas kill everyone and they smell like fresh flowers.
Pirates are covered in guts and man-spackle. They have food in their teeth.
Ninjas also have magical ninjutsu powers and better credit at the bank.
Pirates have a slow payment history.
Ninjas eat more grains and are very regular.
Ninjas can kill with one finger.
Pirates dress like 80's hair metal bands.
Pirates are confused about their sexuality and overcompensate with excessive displays of macho bravado.
Ninjas listen to classical music, know the future, and are very confident.
Ninjas get all the hot girls, also, hot girls are ninjas!
Ninjas can kill someone and still get in an up-skirt shot.
Also ninjas rule!
Ninjas know how to cook without leaving a big mess.
Pirates wipe back to front, and they never wash.
Pirates are all co-dependent.
Ninjas make complicated desserts, like chocolate fondue or homemade ice-cream.
Ninjas are excellent hosts and know how to use a napkin.
Pirates leave their smelly socks in the middle of the floor.
Ninjas eat loads of fruit and vegetables and are all disease free.
Ninjas are polite and pleasant to be around and always offer to do the dishes after dinner.
Ninjas like to give backrubs without being asked, and they will tell you that you look nice and mean it.
Ninjas can levitate and run up walls.
Pirates never vote.
Pirates are cruel to animals, children, and old people.
Pirates never call when they say they are going to.
Ninjas will always bring some interesting video when they come to visit.
Pirates have fleas and old food particles stuck in their beards.
Pirates are thoughtless and will never hold the door for you.
Ninjas kick ass and are never wrinkly.
Pirates talk too much and never allow you to finish what you are saying.
Pirates often have colitis.
Ninjas can become invisible and always have sweets for visiting children.
Ninjas are very polite and never forget to say please and thank you.
Ninjas will send you poems to show you that they really care about you.
Also pirates sucks!
I think that that covers it up. :)
2. Read this, I copied it from a web:
Ninjas are more bad ass than pirates!
Ninjas have better hygiene, and they are less wasteful.
Ninjas always put the toilet seat down and wash their hands after going to the bathroom.
Ninjas kill everyone and they smell like fresh flowers.
Pirates are covered in guts and man-spackle. They have food in their teeth.
Ninjas also have magical ninjutsu powers and better credit at the bank.
Pirates have a slow payment history.
Ninjas eat more grains and are very regular.
Ninjas can kill with one finger.
Pirates dress like 80's hair metal bands.
Pirates are confused about their sexuality and overcompensate with excessive displays of macho bravado.
Ninjas listen to classical music, know the future, and are very confident.
Ninjas get all the hot girls, also, hot girls are ninjas!
Ninjas can kill someone and still get in an up-skirt shot.
Also ninjas rule!
Ninjas know how to cook without leaving a big mess.
Pirates wipe back to front, and they never wash.
Pirates are all co-dependent.
Ninjas make complicated desserts, like chocolate fondue or homemade ice-cream.
Ninjas are excellent hosts and know how to use a napkin.
Pirates leave their smelly socks in the middle of the floor.
Ninjas eat loads of fruit and vegetables and are all disease free.
Ninjas are polite and pleasant to be around and always offer to do the dishes after dinner.
Ninjas like to give backrubs without being asked, and they will tell you that you look nice and mean it.
Ninjas can levitate and run up walls.
Pirates never vote.
Pirates are cruel to animals, children, and old people.
Pirates never call when they say they are going to.
Ninjas will always bring some interesting video when they come to visit.
Pirates have fleas and old food particles stuck in their beards.
Pirates are thoughtless and will never hold the door for you.
Ninjas kick ass and are never wrinkly.
Pirates talk too much and never allow you to finish what you are saying.
Pirates often have colitis.
Ninjas can become invisible and always have sweets for visiting children.
Ninjas are very polite and never forget to say please and thank you.
Ninjas will send you poems to show you that they really care about you.
Also pirates sucks!
I think that that covers it up. :)
ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010
Ninjas are healthy.
Thats why they dont drink.
Thats why they live longer.
THats why there not idiots.
ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010
ninjasvpirates
Apr 22, 2010
As if more need be said after viewing this historical engraving of the end of the Golden age of Piracy.
http://digg.com/d31QVQL?f
http://digg.com/d31QVQL?f
opinionatedteen
May 11, 2010
Ninja's KICK ASS!!!! And also have a totally kick butt uniform! They also have the awesome ability to just show up out of nowhere! Pirates are filthy and gross and....yea..totally immature....Pirates are a dying breed, Ninja's however, are still around....lurking in the corners....waiting to ATTACK.
A Ninja has many distinct advantages. Allow me to name a few. 1) When microwaving a burrito, a Ninja can easily press the buttons with either hand. Whereas a Pirate will have to fumble around with his hook....or two. 2) Shaving for a job interview will be much easier for a Ninja. Even if he cuts himself with his insanely sharp sword, he can cover it up with a nifty hood thingy. A Pirate cannot shave with a hook for a hand. He is clearly at least half blind with that patch over his eye. And without a clean shave, the Pirate has no job potential. Ninja wins, and Pirates everywhere are in the unemployment line.
deadperson95
Jun 19, 2010
There is one thing I need to make sure everyone understands before I start my arguement. NINJAS DO NOT HAVE SPECIAL POWERS! THIS IS FREAKEN NARUTO!! Now that I have cleared that up, I shall now proceed to show my reasoning of me voting for the ninjas. First of ninjas are masters of stealth, poison, espionage, assasination, sabotage, and many other things. Ninjas were also trained from a very young age so they they are very good at what they do. Pirates may have been ex-navy men, but even someone trained in the navy would be no match for a ninja. Many of these arguments also depend on the environment the fight (or just plain assasination of pirates and no fight) will take place. It also depends on the time period of which you are talking about. I will compare land and sea battles in past times, but not in modern times because know knows if modern ninjas even exist, let alone anything about them. Let us start with the past on land. On land, pirates are at a MAJOR disadvantage since they are away from their ship which has their biggest weapon in their arsenal, the cannon. The ninjas will have a major advantage since the land is where they are mainly used to. The pirate's arsenal will likely consist of a scabard, a couple pistols, and maybe a small knive. The ninja's arsenal will likely consist of ninjato (ninja form of katana), shuriken, black eggs (eggs filled with either little pieces of glass or pepper to be thrown at the enemies' eyes), poison, smoke bombs, and maybe a kusarigama (a sickle like weapon with a heavy metal weight attached by a chain). The ninjas would wait for the perfect time to strike each pirate individually. Say the pirates just finished plundering a villiage and are resting and drinking in the villiage ruins, one has to go to the bathroom and walks off alone, he is a goner. The ninjas would likely start poisoning the pirates food and drink, slowly taking them out. The ninjas will just kill them all one by one until they all die, without even knowing it was the ninjas. Now we will discuss past time on sea. Here, the pirates have a large advantage, because the sea is wide open, and they have cannons,and the ship's inside is usually small and confined with no very good hiding places. This wouldn't stop the ninja though. There are quite of few ways a ninja could destroy the pirates, not so easily, but the ninja could still do it. First a ninja is a master of disguise, so before the pirates board their ship again, he could just kill one, take his clothing and board the ship like any other pirate. The few downsides to this though is that the ninja isn't likely to know anything a pirate is saying, since I doubt pirates speak japanese, and he wouldn't look exactly like the others, so this plan has a good chance to be exposed, no matter how dumb people claim the pirates were. Another way is due to the fact that the pirates aren't likely to see a very small vessel in the darkness of night slowly heading to their ship. A single ninja, or maybe a few more, could sneak onto the ship and kill the captian. Considering the ninjas weren't seen at all, the pirates (having no moral code and no real rules) will start infighting over who will be captian, completely ignoring how he died. If the ninja are lucky, the crew will kill eachother off until most are dead. Even if they don't kill eachother from the infighting, the ninjas could still easily pick them off one by one due to the mass frenzy of the infighting. So ninjas can still win on sea, it will just take a lot more time and will be much more difficult. So there you have it, my reasoning why ninjas would most likely win.
forsakenuchiha
Jun 28, 2010
You are so ignorant lmfao. How do you get at ninja's being bound by morality codes? Are you serious? Do you know what a ninja is? He's an assassin! He does anything and everything up his sleeve to accomplish the mission. Their main tactic is basically guerrilla warfare. They come out of nowhere, and then dissapear. How does that show any morality codes? They strike their foes with every unsuspecting, cheap shot they have up their sleeves. Their techniques are based off of deception whether it is strategic, hand to hand, sword to sword, or any other element of combat possible. They spray shards of glass and ground pepper into their opponents eyes to gain an advantage! Please know what you're talking about before you speak; it will help you to be more knowledgeable before making a fool of yourself, whether in an argument or in life.
Ninja's are not knights, they do not spar their opponant on even grounds while upholding chivalric ideals. In fact, if you look into the reality of what knights did then you'll find that the vast majority were all but chivalric.
berryberrybanana
Jul 07, 2010
Ninjas are amazing and pirates can suck it. When's the last time you saw a pirate in a movie that wasn't drunk or didn't have weird body features like horrible nails or teeth or a gnarly nose or something? It's not frightening, it's just weird.
berryberrybanana
Jul 07, 2010
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Jul 07, 2010
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lordofundead
Jan 19, 2007

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marshallkirkpatrick
Jan 24, 2007
"how useful is a blind pirate"
All you pirate prejudice-ites are the same! How useful is a blind pirate... as useful as a seeing pirate, that's how useful! why, do you think they just park the boat at night? I say, NAY! boats have to sail at night, in the pitch black of night! pirates have to learn to move around in the dark of night! in the sightless fog of the sea! Any good pirate knows the ship like the back of his hand/hook!
Show me a blind pirate, and I'll show you a pirate who can kick ninja a**.
Weren't ninjas killers for hire?

deathboner
Feb 01, 2007

jaredbelch
Feb 01, 2007
Pirates have conquered the seven seas w/o the aid of eyes or their natural limbs.
I'd like to see a Ninja kick that much ass with a peg leg

thepunisher
Feb 01, 2007
Let's talk Badassery. Yes, I think it has been granted that the average ninja could win in a fight against the average pirate. And if a group of ninja were to appear in a cloud of smoke and swarm a pirate ship, there would be many casualties as the lesser Mateys were swiftly struck down. But the pirate that remains, ahh. Imagine him now, a huge, muscular man, a scimitar in one hand, bottle of rum in the other, an eyepatch, rough, unshaven face, blood streaming across intricate tattoos. He stands on a pile of vanquished ninja foes and sings a dirty song as the war tears on around him. Now that, my friends, is Badasserry.
This fight goes to the Pirates, folks.
Nor do I know any ninjas who can do that.

groovearmy
Feb 01, 2007

marc101010
Feb 02, 2007
Uma Thurman would kick Johnny depp's ass - Ninjas!
This topic is in history. As in, it's taking from fact- historically, I don't seem to remember any ninjas with 'Awesome' powers, or any that defy physics either.
Pirates on the other hand have never said that they've done things that physically they can't do.

groovearmy
Feb 03, 2007
Actually, Pirates were proud to 'run their colors' (raise their flag) because most of them had individual flags which would inspire fear in their enemy.
There is no fact in your statement that they always have an eye patch and missing a leg, most were born with two and died with two.
And as for your attempt at explaining how a pirate fights, its pitiful. Yes most of the crew of a pirate ship were less likely to be as skilled with a sword, but the 'officers' such as the captain, bosun, quartermaster, and most of the upper-mid shipman had well practiced and even formidable skills with a sword.
Pirates don't fight with honor either, so while your ninja is trying to kill for maximum honor, the humble pirate kicks him down and shoots him out of a cannon.
Oh and spontaneous and exciting? Ninjas are not spontaneous or exciting, they carefully work out their plans of attack and strike at a precise moment,
You want spontaneity?
BECOME A PIRATE.

piraticninjaman
Feb 03, 2007

piraticninjaman
Feb 03, 2007
Ah yes, the old "proving the negative" -

wetdirtmud
Feb 04, 2007
Ask a Ninja? Your argument is a podcast! People like you should be sent to antartcica.
What ninja in history ever got laid? None!
ninjas may be lethal, but they have nasty tempers, are sulky, have a habit of being despised and trapped in baskets when discovered (as anyone playing Shogun Total War will attest to) plus the only woman that they have a chance of getting any with, a geisha, is very high maintenence and prefers pirates overall ;)
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ideajunkie
Feb 06, 2007
The pirates can rape the women on the land they plunder thus they pass on their pirate genes.

walkdaplank
Feb 06, 2007
You obviously did no such thing.
Piracy happens all the time but now they have machine guns, ninjas no longer exist.

kabukistar
Feb 06, 2007
Everyone has this culturally-perpetuated belief that ninjas are/were great fighters. Historically, most Shinobi never even touched a weapon for their job, but just acted as spies; posing as a soldier or other subordinate, and then passing information they go to their real Daimyo.
The closest a ninja usually got to fighting was an assassination, which usually involved just dressing as a priest/beggar/dancer/whatever, and waiting for your target to walk by. Then, stabbing them and running like hell. Ninja were not trained to be great fighters, as much as they were actors. They chose stealth and subterfuge, because when they were caught, they would be no match against a soldier, or anyone who actually was trained to fight.
Pirates, on the other hand, have to fight all the time. A pirate's job didn't consist of sneaking up on people, but running headfirst onto another ship, with armed guards, who knew you were coming. You had to strong and tough to plunder, and to be a pirate.
So, a pirate could beat up on a ninja any day.

defenderoffuture
Feb 06, 2007

mitukagome
Feb 08, 2007

mitukagome
Feb 08, 2007
Ninjas have no fashion sense. They don't have fashion because it doesn't matter, you can't see them. Pirates, on the other hand, know how to accessorize.

awlasirius
Feb 09, 2007

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Feb 10, 2007

sfawcett2003
Feb 11, 2007

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Feb 12, 2007

pacothelovemonkey
Feb 13, 2007
When is the last time you ever saw a ninja looking at a woman?
which brings up the point.. if ninjas don't have sex.. shouldn't they have died out by now?

redperphexion
Jul 28, 2007

juggernaut
Aug 01, 2007
Ninjas are masters of land, sea, and air. Pirates are only masters of sea.
Ninjas are fast and deadly. Pirates are slow and fat.

drunkardgrogdowner
Feb 07, 2008
Having a pirate party for my 8th birthday and plotting the demise of the governor was way better than sitting in a bush waiting for commys to poke at with a stick..
Pirates kick ninja ass.

drunkardgrogdowner
Feb 07, 2008
We are talking about REAL pirates and REAL ninjas, not this anime crap where ninjas can teleport and attend ninja schools like that Naruto crap. The modern pirate is not always just a drunken slop, many are ex military. The pirate ship is well gaurded and equiped with Sniper Rifles and machile guns. A ninjas priority is stealth and ease of movement therefore he is likely to have little protection agaist the rapid fire capabilites of a pirate.

binkyninja
May 02, 2008
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't guys like butts?
That's 50% of the population on my side now, and that doesn't even include girls. I'm a girl; I like pirates. So, that means pirates are in the lead by at least one. Thanks for that.
"Are we debating based on fantasy rules or reality?"
No, read the stances, the word historically is right in there. Also, why would we?
"There's no such thing as supernatural pirates, but ninjas actually exist(ed)."
...Are you implying that there are supernatural ninjas (I doubt it) or there aren't (haven't been) pirates?
"If the debate calls for a serious answer, then the obvious one is ninjas.
Real ninjas can beat not-real pirates any day of the week."
I disagree, but I'll follow your lead and not say why.
"Naruto, guys!!"
Naruto is not real.
"And ninjas have more amazing skills." While ninjas are hhighly trained, comparing the skills of stealth and assassination, to the skills of raiding and pillaging is like comparing apples and oranges.
"Plus you have to be on a boat. And boats can't go on land."
Unless ninjas can walk on water (they can't) it would seem nninjas are at a similar disadvantage.
"Pirates have been known to suffer great defeats at the hands of their enemies (other pirates or various navies)."
It's impossible to win every time.
"When was the last time you heard of a Ninja getting his ass kicked????"
Ever watch any "Kung Fu Movies" in most the main characther slaughters atleast a couple dozen, singlehandedly.
well, in order to even be considered to be a ninja, you must be a 3rd degree black belt in at least 3 differnt forms of martial art's... and than affter learning ninjutsu... you can't even use it because of the fact that if you do, you could be arrested for attempted assasination (because that's all ninjutsu really is) so you couldn't even brag about knowing it...

pescadorgama
Oct 05, 2008
ninjas couldn't stand straight as soon as they'd sneak on board..they are not sea trained to walk decently, thus they would get cought and made to walk the plank

lordofthelightning
Dec 23, 2008

jamesjamestwo
Dec 24, 2008

countkillalot
Dec 25, 2008

lordofthelightning
Dec 29, 2008
I notice alot of ninja fans point out that you wouldn't see a ninja coming but you would see a pirate. To that I say "How so?". While it is true that ninjas were masters of ambush they were not the predator. I would likely see a ninja in front of me but that would be a pretty stupid ninja as that defeats that who point of a ninja. A ninja who was good at his job would get in and get out without having to kill anyone. Also pirates were far better then ninjas in this area as well. They had to sneak their ship up to the target ship without being seen or heard other wise the target ship would just run to a safe port and in a boat race powered by wind the pirates would have never catch up in time. So I ask you!, Whos the true master of stealth? A ninja who can only sneak himself or a pirate who can sneak a whole ship!

lordofthelightning
Dec 29, 2008
If your writing is any indication of how organized ninjas are their in some deep sh*t! Not to be rude but is it just me or are all the ninja fans: stupid, losers, ugly, men, wo-men(you know the ones that think their anime characters but will never get to have sex because their crazy/ugly as a madcow), 3 year olds, school drop outs, or shut ins. While pirate fans aren't perfect they are (as "inorih" put it) "more cooler" and can at lest string a complete sentence togather and read. But hey!, How can I beat a endless line of assholes who spend their who time making up weirder powers for ninjas so that when a pirate fan points something out the ninja fan goes. "NO!, The pirate wouldn't see the the ninja coming! DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuH! I like naruto, no like real books!" I just can't deal with that one-sided crap! Even the great "Pinja" the ninja fans say "Well he was a ninja who became a pirate it can't work the other way so ninjas are better (read my first statement in debate to see the truth)! DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuH! Saskake (more like Sasgay) is more cooler then pirates!" You know what it seems to me ninja fans started this because pirate fans wouldn't care about this till the ninja fans started making passes at us to show off how great they were! What!?, Did Chuck Norris kick your asses so you hate guys with breads or something? I'm going to take this rage a use it when I'm drinking and having sex with two hot pirate loving girls tonight! You know why!?, Because real women love pirates! Especially beacuse pirates love booty!

crazykorean117
Dec 30, 2008

lordofthelightning
Dec 31, 2008

lordofthelightning
Jan 26, 2009
WTF?...Martial artists are not ninja! Shit!, There were some asian pirates and they knew martial arts! Do you mean ninjutsu? Because that doesn't make you a ninja. Crap!, Thats like throwing on an eyepatch and saying your a pirate doesn't work like that sorry try again! And yes Piracy is a crime but so is trying to kill people when they are sleeping because thats what ninja do! And no piracy does not hurt people, people hurt people and to date. Sense the new age pirates have come around no one I repeat "NO ONE!" but pirates have died. Died, (may I add) trying to steal money to feed their familys. As well as save up money to come here to the USA. Hell!, They let a guy do a documentary film about their lives he lived with them for a year and 2 months. Said they were fun nice good people in bad need of money. That tends to be why one becomes a pirate know and days to stay alive in a hard world. Not to pay eight dollars a month to pretend they can fight like a pro martial artist in a real world country who has done it sense he was 3, In a cave practicing moves and beaten in the dark till he could kill without thinking. That is a Martial artist not a ninja!

masakihatsumi
Feb 05, 2009
pffft!!! if you were a true ninja my friend you would know that the most common misspelling of ninjutsu is ninjitsu as you have spelt it :) so what dojo did you train in and who was your sensei, what is the great grandmasters secret name (just give the initials as it is never to be written or spoken aloud)? be carefull i do know what i am talking about and anything you may find on the net will not be true as the art of the ninja is to keep the oath (never to speak/write the secrets)
A true Ninja does not boast of being a Ninja :)

lordofthelightning
Feb 23, 2009
You used drunk twice...look this is very stupid your reasons and just so unfounded. First i'll cover the drunk thing, Every ninja fan brings that up! they didn't drink that much more then anyone in any other part of the world. The fact was clean water was hard to come by in the middle of the sea so you had to mix rum with water to get grog.(Alcohol was used to extend the life of the water, A dram (a small amount) of alcohol, normally rum, was often added to the water to kill the algae and make it taste better. Ninjas didn't think of that they were to busy trying to live forever by drinking mercury. Yeah!, real smart people.) Of course, rum has a long association with American navies because we had liquor rations and that liquor was usually rum. (Rum is a distilled alcoholic beverage made from fermented molasses.) At one time it was all the rage in the American colonies as well as Caribbean because of its inexpensive means of production. Rum was no the only alcohol on board a ship; beer and wine were also very common. And seeing how america KICKS SO MUCH ASS!!! I'm thinking drinking (just a little) doesn't effect you unless your a wimp! Pirates were very fit as one can not lift cannons, swing off sails, and live off of fruit, dried meats (jerky), and water all day and get fat! Want to talk abot unfit look at the east! WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE BLACK PLAGUE STARTED STUPID! THE EAST!, THE FAR EAST!, LIKE NEAR CHINA AND JAPAN ALMOST KILLED THEM ALL! WOULD OF DONE THE SAME BUT SOME ENGLISH PEOPLE (Yes!, some were pirates) HAVE THE DETA 32 SO WE WIN AGAIN! (asians don't have this gene it also protects you from AIDS luckly, you've got to of had family from england in some parts to get the gene.) If youv'e ever (and I can clearly seen you've not) worked on a ship you'd know it's a hell of a work out! Much more so then say, sitting on your butt waiting for a man to fall asleep so you can kill him..yeah so very hard to kill sleeping people. Living on a ship is like living on monkey bars...with iron balls that can knock wholes in your body rolling around sometimes. Pirates could dodge hell they made drunking style a pass time seeing how your saying how drunk they were. Yeah!... Thats why they were feared world wide even in japan because they could out drink ninja.(and still fire a gun...you know guns! The things ninjas don't have!) You jump from being at sea to rules WTF are you drunk?
All pirates signed a contract stupid!, God!, You ever hear "Know thy enemy like thy friend." Jackass, No? How about "Read a f**king book ass wipe!"
Pirates also had a code which changed alittle from ship to ship but was more or less these rules!:
I. Every man has a vote in affairs of moment; has equal title to the fresh provisions, or strong liquors, at any time seized, and may use them at pleasure, unless a scarcity makes it necessary, for the good of all, to vote a retrenchment.
II. Every man to be called fairly in turn, by list, on board of prizes because, (over and above their proper share) they were on these occasions allowed a shift of clothes: but if they defrauded the company to the value of a dollar in plate, jewels, or money, marooning was their punishment. If the robbery was only betwixt one another, they contented themselves with slitting the ears and nose of him that was guilty, and set him on shore, not in an uninhabited place, but somewhere, where he was sure to encounter hardships.
III. No person to game at cards or dice for money.
IV. The lights and candles to be put out at eight o'clock at night: if any of the crew, after that hour still remained inclined for drinking, they were to do it on the open deck
V. To keep their piece, pistols, and cutlass clean and fit for service.
VI. No boy or woman to be allowed amongst them. If any man were to be found seducing any of the latter sex, and carried her to sea, disguised, he was to suffer death;(so that when any fell into their hands, as it chanced in the Onslow, they put a sentinel immediately over her to prevent ill consequences from so dangerous an instrument of division and quarrel.
VII. To desert the ship or their quarters in battle, was punished with death or marooning.
VIII. No striking one another on board, but every man's quarrels to be ended on shore, at sword and pistol. (The quarter-master of the ship, when the parties will not come to any reconciliation, accompanies them on shore with what assistance he thinks proper, and turns the disputant back to back, at so many paces distance; at the word of command, they turn and fire immediately, (or else the piece is knocked out of their hands). If both miss, they come to their cutlasses, and then he is declared the victor who draws the first blood.)
IX. No man to talk of breaking up their way of living, till each had shared one thousand pounds. If in order to this, any man should lose a limb, or become a cripple in their service, he was to have eight hundred dollars, out of the public stock, and for lesser hurts, proportionately. (That my friends is called insurance did ninjas have that?...Didn't think so!)
X. The captain and quartermaster to receive two shares of a prize: the master, boatswain, and gunner, one share and a half, and other officers one and quarter.
XI. The musicians to have rest on the Sabbath Day, but the other six days and nights, none without special favour.
So!, Where is that ninja Code all you ninja fans talk about? Whats that?!, It's not real?, You guys can't even prove ninjas are real?, I guess when your facts are drawn from cartoons and comics that tends to happen! Come back when you can list a real plus for ninjas instead of pointing out bad things for pirates! I'm going to go listen to pirate songs beacuse ninjas didn't write any and if they did they'd sound like screaming monkeys!
Peace out!, ARRRRR!

masakihatsumi
Feb 26, 2009

masakihatsumi
Feb 26, 2009
'SHE' thanks :D
plus OMG have you got a life??? You are calling others here shutins etc but look how much you have posted here!!! It's madness...
and to BFNINJA...since when did Ninjas have machine guns and laser swords??? Get a life and stop living in movie land would ya youre making real ninjutsu look rediculous!
and to the person who said modern day Pirates don't kill people: Paaahleeez! google pirates murdered Sir Peter Blake (a good man too).
Pirates are not american for Gods sake get an education...they are Somalian, Ethiopean, Amazonians etc c'mon people do your homework before posting such garbage and dont accuse other people of not being able to string two words together when you obviously have problems spelling or making sense yourself.
Not to mention first talking about native americans as though you are one and then calling yourself of English decent. I have some english ancestory and i am most certainly not immune to aids or the plague!!! If that were the case scientists would be isolating and injecting those particular genes into everyone as an immunisation by now... i could go on and on but whats the point you'll only take offence rather than accepting the absolute ludicrity of your arguments.
you do realize that almost everything you posted is pretty much a pirate... and also, Pirates almost never used the plank and a threat... because it was never a definate that the enemy would be killed... so most pirates resorted to marooning or killing them on the spot... or tieing them up to an ancor and throwing them over board... and another thing, if what your saying about ninja's are true about how they did what they wanted... than from the sound's of it, ninja's are really undisciplined and untrained... because pirates, all though routy, did fallow a code and kept that to heart... and always followed the code to his death (which could in fact be the cause of his death.) and another thing, pirates always had to be on ready for an attack due to the fact that many of them were being hunted bye the navy of every nation... so sneaking up on them was one thing that would almost never happen.

lordofthelightning
Apr 02, 2009
OK...A. Anyone can buy a katana and B. with the money I'd save on movies I could buy like 150 katana's to fire out my cannon at you.
By the by, does everyone know this whole thing was started by a video game "Skulls and crossbones" I think it was called.
It was a game where you played as pirates (just two pirates)killing ninjas(as well as other things) in large groups to get wenches,gold,and rum. So why is there even a debate on this? Was some ninja fan like" No!, I don't like that!, I'm going to debate that!, I don't see why real ninja would care but I do so I'm going to yell about it!"
And the irony is...pirates yell and fight!

lordofthelightning
Apr 02, 2009
Fair point but ... IMHO pirates got layd more. And ... if you truly burrow to the essential marrow of the argument, that is all that counts!
You're right the only thing that can beat a ninja is another ninja. They are on a whole other level when compared to pirates, a much higher level.
You're right, the only thing that can beat a ninja is another ninja. They are on a whole other level when compared to pirates, a much higher level.

masterchief
May 08, 2009

againstthecurrents
Mar 16, 2010
Yes, but mythbuster have proven that the eye patch helps them see in the dark. Can ninjas see like that at ease?

boozebarron
Apr 21, 2010
Ninjas placed survival above all else. You're thinking about Samurai, who are completely different. They're both as bad as each other, however Pirates can grow facial hair, therefore making them better.

boozebarron
Apr 21, 2010
If a Samurai stowed away, even if they killed all the pirates, who would pilot the ship?

masakihatsumi
Jul 08, 2010

masakihatsumi
Jul 09, 2010
sorry i read that wrong lol you said "American navies"...i thought you said American natives...oh well.
Not every thing I said was to you I just could't be bothered rebutting several people one at a time so I wrote it all in my rebuttal to you!
My bad
never the less Ninja rules!!! (poking my toungue out lol)
Ninjas didn't fight for what was right at all. They worked for the highest bidder, and did any dishonorable thing they could in order to stay alive and get the job done. They lived for money.......Besides I don't think some 5 foot tall greedy creep who is trying to stab you in the back would be considered hunky by any means.
Although, I need to add that pirates have numbers. A whole crew of people. Not only that, but they are not bound by morality like ninjas and their codes. Pirates will kill anyone, at anytime, for any reason.
Ah, the anachronism that is the ninja! Are there even any ninjas left in the world, to fight the pirates? I am pretty sure that the true ninjas went the way of the samurai (speaking of which, in the movie THE LAST SAMURAI, ninjas and samurais duke it out, and I am pretty sure that was anachronistic too) I say NAY!
Yet modern pirates abound! See The Outlaw Sea: A World of Freedom, Chaos, and Crime by William Langewiesche. Pirates still kick trash, even in a world of atom bombs and blackberries. In fact, pirates probably use blackberries. Blackberries, eyepatches and parrots. Yar, matey!
Yet modern pirates abound! See The Outlaw Sea: A World of Freedom, Chaos, and Crime by William Langewiesche. Pirates still kick trash, even in a world of atom bombs and blackberries. In fact, pirates probably use blackberries. Blackberries, eyepatches and parrots. Yar, matey!
Two problems with the last pro-ninja argument... 1) it implies that ninjas are NOT horrible people historically... which is NOT TRUE!! Where's the moral high ground for "spies and assassins" of 14th century feudal Japan?? In fact, the "ninja" was seen as antithetical to the traditional, honorable warfare of the Japanese Samurai! they were HONORLESS fighters!!!
2) Pirates were not all horrible people, doing horrible, terrible things. I think that some of those myths will be debunked, such as the myths surrounding the so-called infamous Captain Kidd http://www.amazon.com/Pirate-Hunter-True-Story-Captain/dp/0786865334
2) Pirates were not all horrible people, doing horrible, terrible things. I think that some of those myths will be debunked, such as the myths surrounding the so-called infamous Captain Kidd http://www.amazon.com/Pirate-Hunter-True-Story-Captain/dp/0786865334
That is just prejudice against Monocolurism! One-eyed people are perfectly capable of seeing ninja stars.
lordofundead
Jan 19, 2007
lets not forget that pirates have guns / cannons. albeit they arent extremely accurate, but they deffinitely give range over the ninjas whom only have worthless ninja stars, which i may add only use was to distract the enemy.
lordofundead
Jan 22, 2007
maybe if the ninja trained for years to kill people via shuriken. but we're talking about the common ninja, whom used shurikens as secondary weapons to back up their main weapon and cause a nussiance to the attacker.
lordofundead
Jan 22, 2007
maybe if the ninja trained for years to kill people via shuriken. but we're talking about the common ninja, whom used shurikens as secondary weapons to back up their main weapon and cause a nussiance to the attacker.
marshallkirkpatrick
Jan 24, 2007
Check out the weekly international piracy report at http://www.icc-ccs.org.uk/ see button on left sidebar. Now tell me, are there this many ninja attack stories out there every week? Or maybe nobody even sees the ninjas...right...
Rebuttal to:
dast
"how useful is a blind pirate"
All you pirate prejudice-ites are the same! How useful is a blind pirate... as useful as a seeing pirate, that's how useful! why, do you think they just park the boat at night? I say, NAY! boats have to sail at night, in the pitch black of night! pirates have to learn to move around in the dark of night! in the sightless fog of the sea! Any good pirate knows the ship like the back of his hand/hook!
Show me a blind pirate, and I'll show you a pirate who can kick ninja a**.
Rebuttal to:
mknorpp
Weren't ninjas killers for hire?
deathboner
Feb 01, 2007
Ok, so ninjas are sweet because they have discipline, stealth, magic, shuriken, and lasers and all that crap. But ninja's are boring when they are not killing people, because all they do is sit around in dark places hiding all day. Lame.
Pirates, aside from boarding ships and taking them a prize, drink night and day, will travel all over the world just because a map has an X on it, and have reckless carefree sex with wenches they don't even know.
You want to know what it's like to be a ninja? Go sit in your closet all day. That's pretty much it.
And besides, pirates have a whole day in dedication to their sweetness: Talk Like a Pirate Day, celebrated every September 19th. Ninjas don't have a day. Because most don't talk. They just sit in their closets.
Pirates, aside from boarding ships and taking them a prize, drink night and day, will travel all over the world just because a map has an X on it, and have reckless carefree sex with wenches they don't even know.
You want to know what it's like to be a ninja? Go sit in your closet all day. That's pretty much it.
And besides, pirates have a whole day in dedication to their sweetness: Talk Like a Pirate Day, celebrated every September 19th. Ninjas don't have a day. Because most don't talk. They just sit in their closets.
jaredbelch
Feb 01, 2007
There are those who say the Pirate is disadvantaged because of the patch over his eye, I say nay it is not so. The patch is a simple device to ensure the Pirate is able to see clearly in daylight or darkness. As shown on Myth Busters, when a patch is worn and one transitions from light to darkness (upper deck to down below) or darkness to light (lighted cabin to dark deck) the Pirate only needs switch the patch to the other eye and is then able to see clearly. Undoubtedly this demonstrates the abilities of the Pirate are far superior to those of the Ninja. His enemies are fooled into thinking he is disabled, when in reality the Pirate has the upper hand. Argg Matey!
Rebuttal to:
dast
Pirates have conquered the seven seas w/o the aid of eyes or their natural limbs.
I'd like to see a Ninja kick that much ass with a peg leg
thepunisher
Feb 01, 2007
1 vs 1 ninja vould kick pirates ass , unless that ass is calle Jack Sparrow :p . But i give my vote on pirates cause of the gunpowder and stile , they dont have tactics but i think ninja's dont stand against cannon balls.
Look...Haru, "The Great White Ninja" had cool friends like Chris Rock and hung out with Mr Mortal Kombat, Liu Kang. The dude was funny, but the Great White Fat One is dead. He busted the plank just like that coffee table in Saturday night live.
Let's talk Badassery. Yes, I think it has been granted that the average ninja could win in a fight against the average pirate. And if a group of ninja were to appear in a cloud of smoke and swarm a pirate ship, there would be many casualties as the lesser Mateys were swiftly struck down. But the pirate that remains, ahh. Imagine him now, a huge, muscular man, a scimitar in one hand, bottle of rum in the other, an eyepatch, rough, unshaven face, blood streaming across intricate tattoos. He stands on a pile of vanquished ninja foes and sings a dirty song as the war tears on around him. Now that, my friends, is Badasserry.
This fight goes to the Pirates, folks.
In regards to the one-eyed argument, did you see the Mythbusters episode on pirates?? So they say pirates would wear the eye-patch to train one eye to be sensitive in the dark. Then when the pirates would go into dark places, they would move the eye-patch to the other eye. Mythbusters found that it was plausible! Pretty smart, if you ask me. Pirates win becuase they have lots of BOOTY.
Pirates, the Chuck Noriss' of the sea... aren't they awesome? Pirates can kick the asses of ninjas any day. Sure, ninjas have fancy moves and through their shiny ninja stars, but when it all coms down to it, pirates gave firearms, therefore winning the battle.
Besides, pirates are richer than ninjas so they can buy any new technology to help defeat ninjas. Seems like the pirates win this one...
Besides, pirates are richer than ninjas so they can buy any new technology to help defeat ninjas. Seems like the pirates win this one...
Rebuttal to:
palestine4life
Nor do I know any ninjas who can do that.
groovearmy
Feb 01, 2007
Pirates are clearly better than Ninjas, just listen to how the word 'Pirate' rolls of the tongue. Say it with me 'Pi-rate'... its elegant, and almost musical.
Now say the word 'Ninja'... 'NIN-JA!" in sounds like you just sneezed violently.
Now I don't know about you but unless sneezing violently is some sort of secret Ninja move for committing suicide, I'd hate to be around one if they ever had the flu.
Pirates have a better time generally anyhow, sure its months at sea, drinking rum, working hard, plundering and pillaging, going for shore leave to spend the spoils and gain some female company, killing your enemies and blowing up their ship.... wait... whats not to like?
Ninjas on the other hand have years of training, and thousands of hours of meditation, no sex, hundreds of hours of standing on 2 poles with their legs stretched out, in the rain while their master beats them around the groin.
No wonder Ninjas are always high-strung and pissed off, all that pain and sexual frustration? and then to be killed by a rival ninja while your trying to kill someone else?
So to restate my initial statement... Pirates are clearly better than Ninjas...
Now say the word 'Ninja'... 'NIN-JA!" in sounds like you just sneezed violently.
Now I don't know about you but unless sneezing violently is some sort of secret Ninja move for committing suicide, I'd hate to be around one if they ever had the flu.
Pirates have a better time generally anyhow, sure its months at sea, drinking rum, working hard, plundering and pillaging, going for shore leave to spend the spoils and gain some female company, killing your enemies and blowing up their ship.... wait... whats not to like?
Ninjas on the other hand have years of training, and thousands of hours of meditation, no sex, hundreds of hours of standing on 2 poles with their legs stretched out, in the rain while their master beats them around the groin.
No wonder Ninjas are always high-strung and pissed off, all that pain and sexual frustration? and then to be killed by a rival ninja while your trying to kill someone else?
So to restate my initial statement... Pirates are clearly better than Ninjas...
Ninjas just scare me with there red eyes.
marc101010
Feb 02, 2007
Rebuttal to:
king
Uma Thurman would kick Johnny depp's ass - Ninjas!
^ Kraken would kick Uma Thermans ass.
Pirates and ninja's both have swords, poisons, power and stealth. However a gun beats a throwing star, a boat beats being on foot, and cannons own.
I like vikings and if they count as pirates I'm with them.
Rebuttal to:
winterbauval
This topic is in history. As in, it's taking from fact- historically, I don't seem to remember any ninjas with 'Awesome' powers, or any that defy physics either.
Pirates on the other hand have never said that they've done things that physically they can't do.
groovearmy
Feb 03, 2007
Rebuttal to:
killercoffee
Actually, Pirates were proud to 'run their colors' (raise their flag) because most of them had individual flags which would inspire fear in their enemy.
There is no fact in your statement that they always have an eye patch and missing a leg, most were born with two and died with two.
And as for your attempt at explaining how a pirate fights, its pitiful. Yes most of the crew of a pirate ship were less likely to be as skilled with a sword, but the 'officers' such as the captain, bosun, quartermaster, and most of the upper-mid shipman had well practiced and even formidable skills with a sword.
Pirates don't fight with honor either, so while your ninja is trying to kill for maximum honor, the humble pirate kicks him down and shoots him out of a cannon.
Oh and spontaneous and exciting? Ninjas are not spontaneous or exciting, they carefully work out their plans of attack and strike at a precise moment,
You want spontaneity?
BECOME A PIRATE.
piraticninjaman
Feb 03, 2007
The true worth of a man is not always measured by his strength in a fight. The true worth of a man is determined by how much ass he gets. As most of you are aware, pirates are players. Anyone familiar with the "Isle of Tortuga" could second that. On the other hand, ninjas just sit around in their black clothes meditating and trying to figure out how the pirates get so much play.
piraticninjaman
Feb 03, 2007
The true worth of a man is not always measured by his strength in a fight. The true worth of a man is determined by how much ass he gets. As most of you are aware, pirates are players. Anyone familiar with the "Isle of Tortuga" could second that. On the other hand, ninjas just sit around in their black clothes meditating and trying to figure out how the pirates get so much play.
Rebuttal to:
ka0tix
Ah yes, the old "proving the negative" -
wetdirtmud
Feb 04, 2007
Pirates have the money, and the firepower to take out a ninja. Just fire a cannonball toward their general area and they'll go down.
Rebuttal to:
sobe
Ask a Ninja? Your argument is a podcast! People like you should be sent to antartcica.
Pirates are drunk all the time while Ninjas don´t usually seem to have much fun..
My vote to the pirates
Rebuttal to:
scorpiel115
What ninja in history ever got laid? None!
ninjas may be lethal, but they have nasty tempers, are sulky, have a habit of being despised and trapped in baskets when discovered (as anyone playing Shogun Total War will attest to) plus the only woman that they have a chance of getting any with, a geisha, is very high maintenence and prefers pirates overall ;)
Rebuttal to:
otown
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ideajunkie
Feb 06, 2007
not to mention that soon fighting will be brought to space. i'm afraid that'll be the end for the pirate.
1. pirate ships don't work in space
2. parrots survive no more than 4 seconds in a vacuum, and are highly resistant to spacesuits.
3. buckeye balls are hard enough to load, adding space mitts to the equation quintuples reload time.
4. darth vader would basically go insane if he saw a pirate trying to get in on the protection or raiding racket.
my two cents....
1. pirate ships don't work in space
2. parrots survive no more than 4 seconds in a vacuum, and are highly resistant to spacesuits.
3. buckeye balls are hard enough to load, adding space mitts to the equation quintuples reload time.
4. darth vader would basically go insane if he saw a pirate trying to get in on the protection or raiding racket.
my two cents....
Rebuttal to:
scorpiel115
The pirates can rape the women on the land they plunder thus they pass on their pirate genes.
walkdaplank
Feb 06, 2007
I would like to see a boat full of ninjas take on a Galleon full of pirates who are skilled and quick to reload and fire the "six-pounder" cannon, which made quick swiss cheese of wooden ships. Ninjas die just as quickly as any mariner when sunk to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
Picture with me a group of highly skilled ninjas losing appendages to cannon shot and having their eyes shredded by flying timbers. They may look cool in their black suits (or white, if it is Stormshadow from GI Joe fame), but they would be dead. Cool but dead does not win a battle, I say.
ARRRRRRGGGHH!
Picture with me a group of highly skilled ninjas losing appendages to cannon shot and having their eyes shredded by flying timbers. They may look cool in their black suits (or white, if it is Stormshadow from GI Joe fame), but they would be dead. Cool but dead does not win a battle, I say.
ARRRRRRGGGHH!
Rebuttal to:
thesilentninja
You obviously did no such thing.
Rebuttal to:
beefyninja
Piracy happens all the time but now they have machine guns, ninjas no longer exist.
Do millions of people around the globe celebrate "Talk Like a Ninja" day?
I think not.
I think not.
kabukistar
Feb 06, 2007
Rebuttal to:
reborn
Everyone has this culturally-perpetuated belief that ninjas are/were great fighters. Historically, most Shinobi never even touched a weapon for their job, but just acted as spies; posing as a soldier or other subordinate, and then passing information they go to their real Daimyo.
The closest a ninja usually got to fighting was an assassination, which usually involved just dressing as a priest/beggar/dancer/whatever, and waiting for your target to walk by. Then, stabbing them and running like hell. Ninja were not trained to be great fighters, as much as they were actors. They chose stealth and subterfuge, because when they were caught, they would be no match against a soldier, or anyone who actually was trained to fight.
Pirates, on the other hand, have to fight all the time. A pirate's job didn't consist of sneaking up on people, but running headfirst onto another ship, with armed guards, who knew you were coming. You had to strong and tough to plunder, and to be a pirate.
So, a pirate could beat up on a ninja any day.
The ninja evolved in opposition to the samurai. While their tactics were quite effective against their natural enemy, they simply don't translate when faced with the formidable arsenal of the pirate:
1. The ninja has no defense against sharks... good luck swimming up to a pirate ship while breathing through a reed!
2. Smoke bombs may be frightening in feudal Japan, but pirates' cannons acclimate them bright flashes and loud noises; the (dis)appearing ninjas would then be easy prey.
3. All this talk of ninja training denies pirates' real-world pillaging experience. Dull blade through stomach trumps the ability to do push-ups with one finger.
4. Pirates' penchant for rum is well known; the lesser known flip side is that drunk pirates see in bullet time.
5. Ninjas are paid assassins, but who's going to pay them once the pirates plunder all of the money?
Yarrr!
1. The ninja has no defense against sharks... good luck swimming up to a pirate ship while breathing through a reed!
2. Smoke bombs may be frightening in feudal Japan, but pirates' cannons acclimate them bright flashes and loud noises; the (dis)appearing ninjas would then be easy prey.
3. All this talk of ninja training denies pirates' real-world pillaging experience. Dull blade through stomach trumps the ability to do push-ups with one finger.
4. Pirates' penchant for rum is well known; the lesser known flip side is that drunk pirates see in bullet time.
5. Ninjas are paid assassins, but who's going to pay them once the pirates plunder all of the money?
Yarrr!
defenderoffuture
Feb 06, 2007
Uh, yeah Ninjas could kick a lot of ass, but they sure as crap didn't get any. Pirates didn't even need to rape chicks to get a ton of poon, but they did it for fun anyway!
mitukagome
Feb 08, 2007
Pirates have flair.
Ninjas can't have flair. That's very anti-ninja. To have flair would mean that they were noticed, and that's not what ninjas do.
Pirates, on the other hand, have flair.
Ninjas can't have flair. That's very anti-ninja. To have flair would mean that they were noticed, and that's not what ninjas do.
Pirates, on the other hand, have flair.
mitukagome
Feb 08, 2007
Ninjas have no fashion sense. They don't have fashion because it doesn't matter, you can't see them. Pirates, on the other hand, know how to accessorize.
awlasirius
Feb 09, 2007
It's so easy to see that Pirates are the better choice, A simple spotlight will stop a ninja in it's tracks. And ninjas are weak, how would they ever row a boat all the way out 2 where the Pirates are? And how good are Ninjas really Stealth is their only attribute, Pirates wear Eye patches for a reason, Perfect night vision baby, Ninjas got notin on Pirates.... pwnt
awlasirius
Feb 10, 2007
talk like a pirate pwns ask a ninja
for websites
for websites
sfawcett2003
Feb 11, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZAzZeSHAgs&eurl=0
Nuff said right there!
Nuff said right there!
awlasirius
Feb 12, 2007
peoples view of what a ninja can actually do is super inflated. Ninja = weak spy rarely killed. they rarely ever got involved in combat of anysort were as Pirates are harden by the sea and always on their toes hitting waves and hoisting sails. not hiding in bushes. Yes they drank but clean water was hard to come by so rum was their sorce of long term suppliment they got used to it. Pirates did have deasise but that doesn't make them weak.. look at modern day sailors strong and ready to take on anything.. even if it is pwning a "ninja"
pacothelovemonkey
Feb 13, 2007
When is the last time you ever saw a ninja looking at a woman?
which brings up the point.. if ninjas don't have sex.. shouldn't they have died out by now?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster loves pirates.
Q.E.D.
Q.E.D.
Pirates.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Johnny Depp
Jack Sparrow
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
Johnny Depp
Jack Sparrow
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
ok im new here, so think what you will, there are three types of people in this earth, pirates, ninjas, and cowboys. Pirates are the type of person who will kill you to your face with a pistol, ninjas throw a star?? RETARDED
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redperphexion
Jul 28, 2007
Pirates are good for many things. Ninjas are not. Ninjas are too specialized; they sneak and they destroy. Pirates are "Jacks of All Trades" if you will. They:
1) Sail huge ships and, generally, do not crash. They know how to repair everything they own, and get to where they want to go using sextons and the stars.
2) Talk with that accent that, really, no one else can immitate worth beans. "Arrr me buckle shoes!"
3) Have cool names like Long John SIiver and Redbeard, and Jack Sparrow (had to throw that in there).
4) Keep monkeys and parrots as pets. Who else can train monkeys and parrots to snatch things from people and say cute little catch phrases?
5) Wear great bling. Earrings and gold chains and gems and rings and shoe buckles.
5) Get loads of booty.
7) Tie great knots.
8) Can say "Avast!" without sounding like a weirdo.
9) Do all of the above just as good, or better when they're drunk than when they're sober.
Ninjas don't talk with a harty accent, and are all named "The (colour or adjective) Ninja". They never have pets or work in groups, and they never get any booty.
I'd like to see a Ninja fight while drunken....
1) Sail huge ships and, generally, do not crash. They know how to repair everything they own, and get to where they want to go using sextons and the stars.
2) Talk with that accent that, really, no one else can immitate worth beans. "Arrr me buckle shoes!"
3) Have cool names like Long John SIiver and Redbeard, and Jack Sparrow (had to throw that in there).
4) Keep monkeys and parrots as pets. Who else can train monkeys and parrots to snatch things from people and say cute little catch phrases?
5) Wear great bling. Earrings and gold chains and gems and rings and shoe buckles.
5) Get loads of booty.
7) Tie great knots.
8) Can say "Avast!" without sounding like a weirdo.
9) Do all of the above just as good, or better when they're drunk than when they're sober.
Ninjas don't talk with a harty accent, and are all named "The (colour or adjective) Ninja". They never have pets or work in groups, and they never get any booty.
I'd like to see a Ninja fight while drunken....
juggernaut
Aug 01, 2007
Ninjas are masters of land, sea, and air. Pirates are only masters of sea.
Ninjas are fast and deadly. Pirates are slow and fat.
Ninja's are asian...like Bruce Lee.
I'd have to say pirates, LOL!
Ninjas would be forced to walk the plank.
Ninjas would be forced to walk the plank.
drunkardgrogdowner
Feb 07, 2008
Having a pirate party for my 8th birthday and plotting the demise of the governor was way better than sitting in a bush waiting for commys to poke at with a stick..
Pirates kick ninja ass.
drunkardgrogdowner
Feb 07, 2008
Ninjas don't even know how to sail a ship all they can do is hide behind a tree. This just shows ninjas are cowards cant face there enemy from the front.
Pirates Rule..
Pirates Rule..
Pirates! Simple Uhaay!
Seriosly, when was the last time you saw a Ninja sitting on top of a ridiculously large pile of gold. With that kind of money I am sure you could buy the services of several ninjas. That and Pirates have Wenches. You just cant top that.
We are talking about REAL pirates and REAL ninjas, not this anime crap where ninjas can teleport and attend ninja schools like that Naruto crap. The modern pirate is not always just a drunken slop, many are ex military. The pirate ship is well gaurded and equiped with Sniper Rifles and machile guns. A ninjas priority is stealth and ease of movement therefore he is likely to have little protection agaist the rapid fire capabilites of a pirate.
Walk ye plank yer scurvy-infested bilge-rat "ninjas"!
Go back to watching Naruto.
Pirates are my choice. They get all women / men, have total independence / freedom, sail with their trusted crew-mates and explore the ocean.
What more could a human ask for?
Go back to watching Naruto.
Pirates are my choice. They get all women / men, have total independence / freedom, sail with their trusted crew-mates and explore the ocean.
What more could a human ask for?
binkyninja
May 02, 2008
I give you the Barrett M-82 Light .50BMG automatic rifle.
Now a popular choice of military snipers, it was developed and invented to help secure it's owner against pirates. I'm neither imagining things nor making this up.
Where, I ask, is the recent anti-ninja technology? Apparently we no longer fear ninja attacks.
Now a popular choice of military snipers, it was developed and invented to help secure it's owner against pirates. I'm neither imagining things nor making this up.
Where, I ask, is the recent anti-ninja technology? Apparently we no longer fear ninja attacks.
American, baby!
During the war of American secession from the United Kingdom, we had no Navy to speak of so Congress issued Letters of Marque to hire Privateers to engage English ships. Experienced pirates made for the most successful Privateers so yeah, we won our independence partly by hiring pirates.
I'm still seeking information about the role of ninjas in American history. Anyone? No?
During the war of American secession from the United Kingdom, we had no Navy to speak of so Congress issued Letters of Marque to hire Privateers to engage English ships. Experienced pirates made for the most successful Privateers so yeah, we won our independence partly by hiring pirates.
I'm still seeking information about the role of ninjas in American history. Anyone? No?
!!
PIRATES MAKE MONEY.
AND LOOK COOLER.
PIRATES MAKE MONEY.
AND LOOK COOLER.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't guys like butts?
That's 50% of the population on my side now, and that doesn't even include girls. I'm a girl; I like pirates. So, that means pirates are in the lead by at least one. Thanks for that.
"Are we debating based on fantasy rules or reality?"
No, read the stances, the word historically is right in there. Also, why would we?
"There's no such thing as supernatural pirates, but ninjas actually exist(ed)."
...Are you implying that there are supernatural ninjas (I doubt it) or there aren't (haven't been) pirates?
"If the debate calls for a serious answer, then the obvious one is ninjas.
Real ninjas can beat not-real pirates any day of the week."
I disagree, but I'll follow your lead and not say why.
"Naruto, guys!!"
Naruto is not real.
"And ninjas have more amazing skills." While ninjas are hhighly trained, comparing the skills of stealth and assassination, to the skills of raiding and pillaging is like comparing apples and oranges.
"Plus you have to be on a boat. And boats can't go on land."
Unless ninjas can walk on water (they can't) it would seem nninjas are at a similar disadvantage.
"Pirates have been known to suffer great defeats at the hands of their enemies (other pirates or various navies)."
It's impossible to win every time.
"When was the last time you heard of a Ninja getting his ass kicked????"
Ever watch any "Kung Fu Movies" in most the main characther slaughters atleast a couple dozen, singlehandedly.
Ninjas are truly disguised as pirates because they want to wear those cool eye patches!
well, in order to even be considered to be a ninja, you must be a 3rd degree black belt in at least 3 differnt forms of martial art's... and than affter learning ninjutsu... you can't even use it because of the fact that if you do, you could be arrested for attempted assasination (because that's all ninjutsu really is) so you couldn't even brag about knowing it...
pescadorgama
Oct 05, 2008
A Great pirate is well known.
A Great ninja is recognized by his sneaking not so striking life, so let a good ninja be the shadow, and name a good pirate to be the champion unless you want both of em to kill you!
A Great ninja is recognized by his sneaking not so striking life, so let a good ninja be the shadow, and name a good pirate to be the champion unless you want both of em to kill you!
uhm, you guys keep going on about how pirates would loose because their drunk, when in fact, being drunk give's them a huge advantage, because they can't feel anything, they can take a lot more hit's and still not feel anything, thus allowing them to grab onto their opponents and smash their opponents face in... and some fight better drunk, because if you can fight drunk, nobody can depict your move's, thus making it one of the worst fighting styles to deal with... and another thing, pirate's had to be trained in the art of fencing and trickory to be able to fight against the navy... so they were good with a sword as well... you need to realize just how much they had to deal with and the fact that they had to fend off a lot of enimys... and ninja are only good when it comes to one-on-one.... if someone else get's in the fight, the ninja is screwed...
Not all Ninjas can swim, most can't in their heavy armour.
All pirates can - and they can walk on land just as well as Ninjas.
Pirates: deffo winners - on odds.
All pirates can - and they can walk on land just as well as Ninjas.
Pirates: deffo winners - on odds.
Pirates have and do continue to adapt to the changing world. Such as Somalian pirates who have targeted shipments of tanks. The use of small speedboats by Vietamese pirates.
Whereas ninjas, have remained foolishly tied to the past. Ninjas simply cannot compete against the superior tactics and weaponry of pirates.
Whereas ninjas, have remained foolishly tied to the past. Ninjas simply cannot compete against the superior tactics and weaponry of pirates.
ninjas couldn't stand straight as soon as they'd sneak on board..they are not sea trained to walk decently, thus they would get cought and made to walk the plank
lordofthelightning
Dec 23, 2008
I study history as a pass time and I’m going to side with pirates for the following reasons. 1.) How many famous real ninjas can you name from memory? Not a lot I’d guess as not many real ones got any fame. I do know a few but none of them were dressed in black, 2.) Historical ninjas never wore all-black suits. Most ninja dressed in colorful armor or clothing as samurai or Japanese peasants. Stereotypical ninja that continually wears easily identifiable black outfits comes from the kabuki theater. Prop handlers would dress in black and move props around on the stage and hold the actors when doing special effects. The audience would obviously see the prop handlers, but would pretend they were invisible. I’m guessing some (meme making asshole) American thought it was a ninja or something. That is if you’d like to believe ninjas like holding cross dressed men for fun. Pirates on the other hand did not have hooks for hands but a tool for moving nets of things that was hook shaped (only captain hook has a hook hand he‘s not real people, get over it). Also!, pirates did have eye patches but so does everyone with one eye, you can‘t get the ladies by showing off a big ugly hole or scar. Most pirates didn’t not have one eye however, generally speaking if you are stabbed in the eye you tend to die as the blade enters your brain, so the famous pirates who kicked ass in history lived with all their parts up till the end of their lifes. Ninjas again didn’t. Most had to cut off their tongues and privates in show of loyalty and so as to not betray their shogun if captured. 3.) Ninjutsu has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with ninjas. The main character nin (忍,) is composed of two greater characters. The upper character ha (刃, ) means "edge of the sword", and the lower character kokoro (心,) means "heart" or "soul". The character 刀 means "sword" or "blade," the character 刃 means "edge of the sword." Together they mean "endurance", and "perseverance". Jutsu (術,) means "art" or "technique"(like everyone doesn‘t know that one). Pō (法,) meaning "knowledge", The popular view is that ninjutsu is only about secrecy and stealth. However, practitioners of this knowledge utilize it to endure all of life's hardships. The creators were criminals by the way so read a book ninja lovers. 4.) To be a ninja one must be Japanese, repeat for the Naruto fans, must be Japanese and most spend their whole life training/pretending to be poor farming people. So no, you are not a ninja if you are blogging right now. Ninjas are not fat, ugly, socially abnormal losers (place nerd rage here). However pirates are open to all races and kinds of people: black, white, midget, giant, ugly, handsome, France, German, smart, forest gumps and even ninjas. 5.) Many people say that a ninja can become a pirate but not the other way around. Wrong!, At lest three times in history Asian pirates in Japan were asked to sabotage, espionage, scouting and assassination for a shogun and act as a ninja villages in their careers. To be a ninja is to steal, spy, and assassinate; to be pirate is simply one who steals (and sometimes kills if they fight back) on a boat so they could also steal (and kill) on land as well and it was a simple change of career for them. 6.) Real ninja are dead! If they were around America would of lost world war 2. That’s because America has the worlds best killers. The black ops!, The seals!, The splinter cells!, They are not ninjas by the way because ninjas are Asian remember. No!, these guys just killed off the ninjas. By the way did you know America paid pirates to act as our navy in the revolutionary war till we made one. Ninjas didn’t because ninjas can’t do anything unless the shogun tells them to. We just had to make our own better ninjas. 7.) Being a ninja sucked!, they had to live as peasants and use farm tools as weapons (look it up I’m not listing them) and a shuriken was never used for killing just to scare the crap out of the enemy and run. Must ninja did a lot of running away and scaring the crap out of people so as to run away being trained to do so can have that effect. Added their shogun would kill them off from time to time to keep his secrets safe. All ninja were "non-humans" (非人, ) and so were looked on as little more then crap in their life’s being how they had jobs with no honor. They feared everyone and everything even each other making a uneasy team system. Not that pirates were great friends and all that but each pirate got his vote on the ship, fair pay, and extra for injuries by the pirates code ( which unlike the Pirates of the Caribbean didn‘t note, the code changes a little with each ship and was wrote by and followed on pain of death by the crew and captain). The captain was boss but you can’t be boss if no one likes you and out numbers you. He was more like the president and being said pirates had some of the earliest from of democracy. Pirate were outlaws to but they were paying outlaws so some towns liked them and lived off pirate visits who sometimes had kings, queens, and (a few times) presidents backing them. A ninjas lord didn’t want to know them and if he did he’d lie and say he didn’t. No honor in knowing a ninja. 8.) Pirates if they wanted to retire they fake their death by sinking the ship, splitting the treasure and changing names. For a ninja being retired was being dead. So as I see it if they fought the pirate would fake his death by the ninja, the ninja would get paid by his lord, they’d split the cash and the pirate would ask the ninja to join his crew, and they’d sail off to kickass together of the high seas! Oh!, And “ Naruto is not ninjas you f**king dumbass Americans! It’s just a Japanese dude using the word ninja as a tag on to get you to read his manga! And it worked! Also Stop bring the Japanese culture into your dumbass internet meme’s! Like we need this crap from you Japanese want to be’s! ”- Lee Sparrow (real name) A friend from Japan told me to say that. Made me laugh!
jamesjamestwo
Dec 24, 2008
Pirates’ hands down win. Let’s be real. Ninjas cannot do magic. Moreover, their skills of "stealth" and whatever are human. They are both killers. The pirate is simply more efficient. Being that a pirate has more advanced technology, i.e. guns and cannons. Even with a sword the European approach to fighting, fencing, has already been proven to trump the Japanese ways. And hand to hand I would just assume that a man constantly at sea and battle could beat an occasional “stab you in your sleep” assassin. Also, the first pirates of Greece and the later sect of Scandinavia easily outnumber the hundred something ninja. The actual existence of "ninjas" should be the debate. The common understanding is they were a group of people who were displeased with the shogunate. That then exiled themselves to life in the mountains. Apparently, some of them became assassins to earn a living. As time went on it is simply assumed that they assimilated back into Japanese culture. Then Naruto came out, and ninjas became dragons…
countkillalot
Dec 25, 2008
Pirates are certainly 'Better' than Ninja's.. the Ninja may have superior martial capabilities... but thats where it all ends...
I for one find the Pirate way of life (social, free and adventurous) to be quite superior to that of the ninja... The hard life where , swashes are buckled and timbers are shivered is to me far supperior than anything ninja training can throw at me..
Also as this simple diagram illustrates
Facial Hair
Pirates ++++++++++++++++
Ninja +++
Pirates have a crucial advantage over ninja in the facial hair department.
Also i believe That Pirates should not worry much about the ninja.. it is the Hashashin who pose a threat to their culture... as Hashashin (still with inferior martial capabilities to those of the Ninja) are quite sneakier and use more suffisticated devices.
Also ... i find the idea of pirates losing a Seabattle to ANYONE ( except perhaps Peter Pan) laughable.
All in all pirates Posses:
a) greater Numbers
and
b) superior equipment
I must point out though an unprepared Crew may easily find itself on its knees in case of a ninja operative infiltrating a ship and calling reïnforcements... that however requires a level of organisation ninja simply do not usually posses ( they always act alone)
And last but not least--- Pirates have conquered the outer reaches space wile not many ninja have discovered this new battleground
(alternate dimentions/universes do not count)
I for one find the Pirate way of life (social, free and adventurous) to be quite superior to that of the ninja... The hard life where , swashes are buckled and timbers are shivered is to me far supperior than anything ninja training can throw at me..
Also as this simple diagram illustrates
Facial Hair
Pirates ++++++++++++++++
Ninja +++
Pirates have a crucial advantage over ninja in the facial hair department.
Also i believe That Pirates should not worry much about the ninja.. it is the Hashashin who pose a threat to their culture... as Hashashin (still with inferior martial capabilities to those of the Ninja) are quite sneakier and use more suffisticated devices.
Also ... i find the idea of pirates losing a Seabattle to ANYONE ( except perhaps Peter Pan) laughable.
All in all pirates Posses:
a) greater Numbers
and
b) superior equipment
I must point out though an unprepared Crew may easily find itself on its knees in case of a ninja operative infiltrating a ship and calling reïnforcements... that however requires a level of organisation ninja simply do not usually posses ( they always act alone)
And last but not least--- Pirates have conquered the outer reaches space wile not many ninja have discovered this new battleground
(alternate dimentions/universes do not count)
lordofthelightning
Dec 29, 2008
I notice alot of ninja fans point out that you wouldn't see a ninja coming but you would see a pirate. To that I say "How so?". While it is true that ninjas were masters of ambush they were not the predator. I would likely see a ninja in front of me but that would be a pretty stupid ninja as that defeats that who point of a ninja. A ninja who was good at his job would get in and get out without having to kill anyone. Also pirates were far better then ninjas in this area as well. They had to sneak their ship up to the target ship without being seen or heard other wise the target ship would just run to a safe port and in a boat race powered by wind the pirates would have never catch up in time. So I ask you!, Whos the true master of stealth? A ninja who can only sneak himself or a pirate who can sneak a whole ship!
lordofthelightning
Dec 29, 2008
If your writing is any indication of how organized ninjas are their in some deep sh*t! Not to be rude but is it just me or are all the ninja fans: stupid, losers, ugly, men, wo-men(you know the ones that think their anime characters but will never get to have sex because their crazy/ugly as a madcow), 3 year olds, school drop outs, or shut ins. While pirate fans aren't perfect they are (as "inorih" put it) "more cooler" and can at lest string a complete sentence togather and read. But hey!, How can I beat a endless line of assholes who spend their who time making up weirder powers for ninjas so that when a pirate fan points something out the ninja fan goes. "NO!, The pirate wouldn't see the the ninja coming! DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuH! I like naruto, no like real books!" I just can't deal with that one-sided crap! Even the great "Pinja" the ninja fans say "Well he was a ninja who became a pirate it can't work the other way so ninjas are better (read my first statement in debate to see the truth)! DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuH! Saskake (more like Sasgay) is more cooler then pirates!" You know what it seems to me ninja fans started this because pirate fans wouldn't care about this till the ninja fans started making passes at us to show off how great they were! What!?, Did Chuck Norris kick your asses so you hate guys with breads or something? I'm going to take this rage a use it when I'm drinking and having sex with two hot pirate loving girls tonight! You know why!?, Because real women love pirates! Especially beacuse pirates love booty!
crazykorean117
Dec 30, 2008
Actually, i really am a ninja fan but here is the truth. Ninjas arnt what you think they are. more than half of what we see today is made up so people would be intereted in them, and the product (E.g such as movies) would sell. im not really interested in pirates so i dont anything about them.
lordofthelightning
Dec 31, 2008
To my statement about ninja fans I'd like to say I'm sorry to the normal ninja lovers ( the ones that like the real ninjas not the fake made up ones) who were mind raped by my anger as it were. I'm just so sick of this from the naruto fans like any one gives a sh*t about whos better they should be working togather to fight off a stronger more kick ass threat "Robot Monkey Overlords with a Zombie Army!"(Joke!, Or is it....!?) However Inorih is still a dumbass! But I think crazykorean117 is a ok guy! And I still think real world pirates rule!
lordofthelightning
Jan 26, 2009
WTF?...Martial artists are not ninja! Shit!, There were some asian pirates and they knew martial arts! Do you mean ninjutsu? Because that doesn't make you a ninja. Crap!, Thats like throwing on an eyepatch and saying your a pirate doesn't work like that sorry try again! And yes Piracy is a crime but so is trying to kill people when they are sleeping because thats what ninja do! And no piracy does not hurt people, people hurt people and to date. Sense the new age pirates have come around no one I repeat "NO ONE!" but pirates have died. Died, (may I add) trying to steal money to feed their familys. As well as save up money to come here to the USA. Hell!, They let a guy do a documentary film about their lives he lived with them for a year and 2 months. Said they were fun nice good people in bad need of money. That tends to be why one becomes a pirate know and days to stay alive in a hard world. Not to pay eight dollars a month to pretend they can fight like a pro martial artist in a real world country who has done it sense he was 3, In a cave practicing moves and beaten in the dark till he could kill without thinking. That is a Martial artist not a ninja!
masakihatsumi
Feb 05, 2009
pffft!!! if you were a true ninja my friend you would know that the most common misspelling of ninjutsu is ninjitsu as you have spelt it :) so what dojo did you train in and who was your sensei, what is the great grandmasters secret name (just give the initials as it is never to be written or spoken aloud)? be carefull i do know what i am talking about and anything you may find on the net will not be true as the art of the ninja is to keep the oath (never to speak/write the secrets)
A true Ninja does not boast of being a Ninja :)
lordofthelightning
Feb 23, 2009
You used drunk twice...look this is very stupid your reasons and just so unfounded. First i'll cover the drunk thing, Every ninja fan brings that up! they didn't drink that much more then anyone in any other part of the world. The fact was clean water was hard to come by in the middle of the sea so you had to mix rum with water to get grog.(Alcohol was used to extend the life of the water, A dram (a small amount) of alcohol, normally rum, was often added to the water to kill the algae and make it taste better. Ninjas didn't think of that they were to busy trying to live forever by drinking mercury. Yeah!, real smart people.) Of course, rum has a long association with American navies because we had liquor rations and that liquor was usually rum. (Rum is a distilled alcoholic beverage made from fermented molasses.) At one time it was all the rage in the American colonies as well as Caribbean because of its inexpensive means of production. Rum was no the only alcohol on board a ship; beer and wine were also very common. And seeing how america KICKS SO MUCH ASS!!! I'm thinking drinking (just a little) doesn't effect you unless your a wimp! Pirates were very fit as one can not lift cannons, swing off sails, and live off of fruit, dried meats (jerky), and water all day and get fat! Want to talk abot unfit look at the east! WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE BLACK PLAGUE STARTED STUPID! THE EAST!, THE FAR EAST!, LIKE NEAR CHINA AND JAPAN ALMOST KILLED THEM ALL! WOULD OF DONE THE SAME BUT SOME ENGLISH PEOPLE (Yes!, some were pirates) HAVE THE DETA 32 SO WE WIN AGAIN! (asians don't have this gene it also protects you from AIDS luckly, you've got to of had family from england in some parts to get the gene.) If youv'e ever (and I can clearly seen you've not) worked on a ship you'd know it's a hell of a work out! Much more so then say, sitting on your butt waiting for a man to fall asleep so you can kill him..yeah so very hard to kill sleeping people. Living on a ship is like living on monkey bars...with iron balls that can knock wholes in your body rolling around sometimes. Pirates could dodge hell they made drunking style a pass time seeing how your saying how drunk they were. Yeah!... Thats why they were feared world wide even in japan because they could out drink ninja.(and still fire a gun...you know guns! The things ninjas don't have!) You jump from being at sea to rules WTF are you drunk?
All pirates signed a contract stupid!, God!, You ever hear "Know thy enemy like thy friend." Jackass, No? How about "Read a f**king book ass wipe!"
Pirates also had a code which changed alittle from ship to ship but was more or less these rules!:
I. Every man has a vote in affairs of moment; has equal title to the fresh provisions, or strong liquors, at any time seized, and may use them at pleasure, unless a scarcity makes it necessary, for the good of all, to vote a retrenchment.
II. Every man to be called fairly in turn, by list, on board of prizes because, (over and above their proper share) they were on these occasions allowed a shift of clothes: but if they defrauded the company to the value of a dollar in plate, jewels, or money, marooning was their punishment. If the robbery was only betwixt one another, they contented themselves with slitting the ears and nose of him that was guilty, and set him on shore, not in an uninhabited place, but somewhere, where he was sure to encounter hardships.
III. No person to game at cards or dice for money.
IV. The lights and candles to be put out at eight o'clock at night: if any of the crew, after that hour still remained inclined for drinking, they were to do it on the open deck
V. To keep their piece, pistols, and cutlass clean and fit for service.
VI. No boy or woman to be allowed amongst them. If any man were to be found seducing any of the latter sex, and carried her to sea, disguised, he was to suffer death;(so that when any fell into their hands, as it chanced in the Onslow, they put a sentinel immediately over her to prevent ill consequences from so dangerous an instrument of division and quarrel.
VII. To desert the ship or their quarters in battle, was punished with death or marooning.
VIII. No striking one another on board, but every man's quarrels to be ended on shore, at sword and pistol. (The quarter-master of the ship, when the parties will not come to any reconciliation, accompanies them on shore with what assistance he thinks proper, and turns the disputant back to back, at so many paces distance; at the word of command, they turn and fire immediately, (or else the piece is knocked out of their hands). If both miss, they come to their cutlasses, and then he is declared the victor who draws the first blood.)
IX. No man to talk of breaking up their way of living, till each had shared one thousand pounds. If in order to this, any man should lose a limb, or become a cripple in their service, he was to have eight hundred dollars, out of the public stock, and for lesser hurts, proportionately. (That my friends is called insurance did ninjas have that?...Didn't think so!)
X. The captain and quartermaster to receive two shares of a prize: the master, boatswain, and gunner, one share and a half, and other officers one and quarter.
XI. The musicians to have rest on the Sabbath Day, but the other six days and nights, none without special favour.
So!, Where is that ninja Code all you ninja fans talk about? Whats that?!, It's not real?, You guys can't even prove ninjas are real?, I guess when your facts are drawn from cartoons and comics that tends to happen! Come back when you can list a real plus for ninjas instead of pointing out bad things for pirates! I'm going to go listen to pirate songs beacuse ninjas didn't write any and if they did they'd sound like screaming monkeys!
Peace out!, ARRRRR!
masakihatsumi
Feb 26, 2009
masakihatsumi
Feb 26, 2009
'SHE' thanks :D
plus OMG have you got a life??? You are calling others here shutins etc but look how much you have posted here!!! It's madness...
and to BFNINJA...since when did Ninjas have machine guns and laser swords??? Get a life and stop living in movie land would ya youre making real ninjutsu look rediculous!
and to the person who said modern day Pirates don't kill people: Paaahleeez! google pirates murdered Sir Peter Blake (a good man too).
Pirates are not american for Gods sake get an education...they are Somalian, Ethiopean, Amazonians etc c'mon people do your homework before posting such garbage and dont accuse other people of not being able to string two words together when you obviously have problems spelling or making sense yourself.
Not to mention first talking about native americans as though you are one and then calling yourself of English decent. I have some english ancestory and i am most certainly not immune to aids or the plague!!! If that were the case scientists would be isolating and injecting those particular genes into everyone as an immunisation by now... i could go on and on but whats the point you'll only take offence rather than accepting the absolute ludicrity of your arguments.
you do realize that almost everything you posted is pretty much a pirate... and also, Pirates almost never used the plank and a threat... because it was never a definate that the enemy would be killed... so most pirates resorted to marooning or killing them on the spot... or tieing them up to an ancor and throwing them over board... and another thing, if what your saying about ninja's are true about how they did what they wanted... than from the sound's of it, ninja's are really undisciplined and untrained... because pirates, all though routy, did fallow a code and kept that to heart... and always followed the code to his death (which could in fact be the cause of his death.) and another thing, pirates always had to be on ready for an attack due to the fact that many of them were being hunted bye the navy of every nation... so sneaking up on them was one thing that would almost never happen.
Pirates gets free movies, music, and other media files. Ninjas just get a ninja sword to the back.
lordofthelightning
Apr 02, 2009
OK...A. Anyone can buy a katana and B. with the money I'd save on movies I could buy like 150 katana's to fire out my cannon at you.
By the by, does everyone know this whole thing was started by a video game "Skulls and crossbones" I think it was called.
It was a game where you played as pirates (just two pirates)killing ninjas(as well as other things) in large groups to get wenches,gold,and rum. So why is there even a debate on this? Was some ninja fan like" No!, I don't like that!, I'm going to debate that!, I don't see why real ninja would care but I do so I'm going to yell about it!"
And the irony is...pirates yell and fight!
lordofthelightning
Apr 02, 2009
Ninjas are supposed to be silent and invisible. So shut up and disappear! You f**king wanttobe's. Arrrrrrrrrrrr! (for good measure)
Fair point but ... IMHO pirates got layd more. And ... if you truly burrow to the essential marrow of the argument, that is all that counts!
You're right the only thing that can beat a ninja is another ninja. They are on a whole other level when compared to pirates, a much higher level.
You're right, the only thing that can beat a ninja is another ninja. They are on a whole other level when compared to pirates, a much higher level.
Perhaps ninjas are closet pirates? I mean... with all the debate it seems like it would be easier for a ninja to convert than for a pirate to. Pirates have great accessories and ninjas MUST be jealous of that. There's no way around it! Hooray for pirates! ARRRGGGHHH!!!!
masterchief
May 08, 2009
pirates have better long range weapons and can also use a sword
The debate has gone on for a long time, but even so there to many back in fort twist on how it can turn out in a fight. I have always believed and well never change my opinion pirates well prevail in more sequences of combat against a ninja. Why I feel so good about picking pirates is just fact a real life ninja can’t counter bullets from a pirate’s gun as simple as it gets. The morons out there are just using their knowledge from movies or anime cartoons which don’t show the actually power of a ninja. Don’t get me wrong ninja’s are very deadly and very tactically when fighting in their environment. However this fight is going to be in a wide field do to how your suppose to test someone’s skill and intelligence in combat. This would be more of an advance for the pirate though; do to that’s what their use too. So this is how I would see it. The fight would start with the ninja open and the pirate open. The pirate will pull out his gun and shoot the ninja. Ninja most likely going to run at the pirate, because that’s all he can do for the time being. Even if he moves the pirate needs try to predict where he would go. That’s why you have so many shots so you can’t miss up. Then ninja would die or be very badly injured from the wounded or be dead. Because of the fact all ninja’s were light armor. So that concludes why pirates would win in a fight against ninja’s.
ninjas are weak. 1 stab and they are either dead or too injured to continue and get kicked out of the ninja clan.
pirates can take hits like a man and still continue fighting.
ninjas breaks a rule, they get kicked out of the ninja clan as well.
pirates have no rules, no laws.
pirates can take hits like a man and still continue fighting.
ninjas breaks a rule, they get kicked out of the ninja clan as well.
pirates have no rules, no laws.
We are talking about REAL ancient pirates and REAL ancient ninjas.
ninja their so call "magic" are just some cheap tricks. Deceptions, to scare their enemy.
Ninjas are wussy, hiding and escaping at the 1st sight of danger.
Pirates are real men, with balls (canon balls). coming back for more even after losing a hand or a leg.
ninja their so call "magic" are just some cheap tricks. Deceptions, to scare their enemy.
Ninjas are wussy, hiding and escaping at the 1st sight of danger.
Pirates are real men, with balls (canon balls). coming back for more even after losing a hand or a leg.
The Russians will get both of them.
Case closed.
Case closed.
Pirates all the way. Just think about it, Ninja's got paid to kill people, and Pirates have lots of cash, so logically Pirates would just pay the Ninja to go kill whoever sent the Ninja after them. Not to mention Pirates got to do whatever they wanted whenever they wanted, which is awesome
againstthecurrents
Mar 16, 2010
It all depends. Where is the battle?
Pirates are masters of the sea. Notice how two thirds of earth's surface is water. Because of this, we have a major upper hand (at least by one third of earth's surface). Also, you may notice that although pirates are commonly thought to always be drunk, they are not. Plus, pirates use swords, and you can see some form of sword in almost any store. But do you see ninja weaponry in stores? No.
So what pirates have going for them is:
1) Access to weaponry
2) Free world tours
3) Proven to exist
So what pirates have going for them is:
1) Access to weaponry
2) Free world tours
3) Proven to exist
Yes, but mythbuster have proven that the eye patch helps them see in the dark. Can ninjas see like that at ease?
boozebarron
Apr 21, 2010
Ninjas placed survival above all else. You're thinking about Samurai, who are completely different. They're both as bad as each other, however Pirates can grow facial hair, therefore making them better.
boozebarron
Apr 21, 2010
If a Samurai stowed away, even if they killed all the pirates, who would pilot the ship?
The facts are this: pirates have the numbers, they have pistols AND swords, and historically, they have been winners (ever hear of any navy captains or women being kidnapped by ninjas? I think not). The ninja style of attack is hit and run. You get nowhere from that. Pirates are true men, and attack ruthlessly head on. Also, pirates discovered the true healing powers of rum and use it to constantly regenerate tissue. All ninjas have are swords and stars. They only strike once every couple minutes and by that time pirates have regenerated tissue. Pirates use "drunk vision" to locate and kill ninjas. Pirates are clearly true men and fight like them. They are the obvious superiors
masakihatsumi
Jul 08, 2010
masakihatsumi
Jul 09, 2010
sorry i read that wrong lol you said "American navies"...i thought you said American natives...oh well.
Not every thing I said was to you I just could't be bothered rebutting several people one at a time so I wrote it all in my rebuttal to you!
My bad
never the less Ninja rules!!! (poking my toungue out lol)
Ninjas sneak up behind people and stab them in the back. At least with pirates you can tell when you're going to get attacked. Sure they killed people, but who didn't back then? Ninjas certainly aren't all honorable, if a ninjas was caught they would be killed because a ninjas was the opposite of honorable (assassination, backstabbing, hiding at night time). Besides, with things such as Naruto I doubt anyone can take the ninjas seriously anymore.
So go ahead, try and throw a ninja star. You'll find a BULLET in your brain before the ninja star is a third of the way towards us.
So go ahead, try and throw a ninja star. You'll find a BULLET in your brain before the ninja star is a third of the way towards us.
Ninjas didn't fight for what was right at all. They worked for the highest bidder, and did any dishonorable thing they could in order to stay alive and get the job done. They lived for money.......Besides I don't think some 5 foot tall greedy creep who is trying to stab you in the back would be considered hunky by any means.



